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Going from christ to wicca, whats your opinion(grandma)~~BOOMBOOM

  Author:  26733  Category:(Angels) Created:(6/22/2001 5:27:00 PM)
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Been gone for some time working on my site and i have been thinking about my grandmother,god,and why people convert to wicca.

I AM NOT OBJECTING TO THE WICCAN FAITH, WILL ALL WHO REPLY TO THIS ACUALLY READ IT!

My opinion on why people like to convert to the wiccan faith is because of the power, especially young children that convert. They want to feel like they have some power and in the bible it says witchcraft is a sin.

1.Which is you really look at it damnwell should be, your worshiping the allmighty god, he can give and take. When your practicing witchcraft your acting on your own and putting god aside. If you really needed something you should pray and talk with god and he WILL give it to you. Just have faith.

My grandmother use to do black magick and mediumships. But whats wrong with the mediumships is that she had worshiped idols and let the spirit take over her body.

She did many things like make peopel fall in love and such (for money)

But one time she got introuble and a bad spirit sliped into her body and almost didnt make it back. My grandmother has found god and stoped doing black magick,divination and worshiping idols. she was getting all her knowledge and power from god.

At one point she acually worshiped god and the idols at the same time and in the bible it says if you do so you wont get power from either side.

2. another reason why i think people convert to wicca is because they nit pick through out the bible and if they dont agree with something they dont agree with god.

Look at it like this, forget the bible. God want's a relationship with you and understands you and can forgive you. Its not like

ANGEL- he didnt go to church sunday

GOD- hell you go

He forgives you and loves you. he forgived my grandmother for the blackmagick and idols.

Now for the ones that say they just love nature. GOD is everthing! to the ground you walk on to the aur you breath. You can love nature and love god.

I dont have a religion i follow GOD and only him. i do right and i think right. whats more to ask for to enter eternal happiness.

Also i have been sent a very touching + long story about one perons friends which really got to me and i loved reading it and im still not done with it.

If you want to read it let me know, i will hopefull be putting it on my site soon.

Thank you for reading.

I just needed to vent some, all this has been on my mind among other things.

UPDATE-

Another thing.....most people convert because of there parents aswell (as ESPgirl reminded me) - But why are you converting?

because of your parent's are making you worship god. Find your own reasons to worship god dont make other's (even your parents) force you to worship him.

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Date: 6/22/2001 5:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 17290    well im christian by my parents and im trying to become wiccan but i dont know how to tell my parents....ill proboably just be a broom closet witch....u dont know my family...before id get to explain theyd burn my stuff and they wouldnt even believe my story so im keeping quiet....i think it's just society..media..tv..shows...movies...and the salem witch trial and well that was casued by a drug..i have a story about that.....  
Date: 6/22/2001 5:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 23796    I dislike Churches because they Pass Judments on people that they are supposed to be trying to help to be "Lead to God" Instead, they get angry with people because their Religions are different and "Attack" them because of their beliefs. I believe that My God would want me to lead others to church (If there was one that accepted me for who I am) by example and Love. Not by hate and Judgment. I also Dislike the fact that Everyone Gives you a look like you are an Outsider when you do step into a church and Don't even try to remember your name anymore. Wiccan Religion is More accepting to one another as individuals and Don't pass such a hard Judgment. People are more readly accepted for who they are as a Person. Perhaps, if Churchs and People stopped passing so much judgment and started leading others by example & Love instead of Harsh words they would have more Followers. **ShadowVixn**  
Date: 6/22/2001 5:41:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    ShadowVixn - God gave us free will and people that act with anger are ignorant and should respect the wishes of others...They are not doing gods work by spreading hate and making anger a rise. The people that look at you are people that are to crazy and obsessed with this religion thing,"screw them and find your own path and reasons for worshiping god, dont let others bring you down."  
Date: 6/22/2001 5:41:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    And you dont have to go to church. i dont and my grandmother dont - though she would like to but she still doesnt go.  
Date: 6/22/2001 5:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 23796    So, is it the fact that wicca Practices "Witchcraft" that you object to or their Morality and Ethics? Because Many of the Morals and Ethics Parallel Christianity. **ShadowVixn**  
Date: 6/22/2001 5:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 23796    OH, and wiccans dont' practice "Black Magic" that is of the left hand path and is NOT wiccan.  
Date: 6/22/2001 5:52:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    Wiccans dont practice witchcraft - thought wiccans do practice it, its out of choice , its not apart of the religion. And i didnt say i ogject to the wiccan faith and i wasnt objecting to anything (nice to know you acually read the whole thing)...i was simply putting my opinions down as to why most people converted to wicca  
Date: 6/22/2001 5:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 23796    Hehe.....Otay.......I've got it now (Chuckle)**ShadowVixn**  
Date: 6/22/2001 5:58:00 PM  From Authorid: 32806    I would say that there are good people in all the different religions. It is not what you worship or follow but who and what you are as an individual that counts, how you live your life is more important than which "god" or "goddess" is your guide. Peace and harmony. Sagi 10  
Date: 6/22/2001 6:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    I think this is true of lots of kids today. They want power and the supernatural. Problem is that they get all this with God and more but they think they have to follow all these man made rules of taste not, touch not do not. If they would take the time and read the bible and find out for themselves that God doesnt expect them to be perfect to give them all that He has, then maybe they would see the truth in it for them selves. Since coming to God, He has given every believer that believes in Jesus Christ, power and authority over satan and all his spirits. Now I would say that was supernatural to the greatest extreams. Many kids and or adults do not know that any spirits that magic or witches can conjure up, Christians through the name of Jesus Christ can get rid of them. By the power and the name of Jesus Christ I have did this and so has many other christians. Good post.  
Date: 6/22/2001 6:09:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    ^^^^^^IN THE BIBLE JESUS SAYS THERE IS POWER IN HIS NAME, AND ALL THAT BELIVE IN HIM CALL ON HIM AND HE WILL BE THERE^^^^^^^  
Date: 6/22/2001 6:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 9713    Hm...Your grandmother was Wiccan and practiced black magick? Nope. I don't think so. Anyways, why did I choose Wicca? NOT for power, NOT for rebellion or anything like that. Because It felt right. I feel so full and loving and loved by my Goddess and God its hard to even explain! I never felt that with Christianity. All I felt was people pressing me with rules and that I couldn't even worship the way I wanted without being ridiculed.  
Date: 6/22/2001 7:56:00 PM  From Authorid: 17884    Great Post!!! I believe what you are saying Boom Boom. I deffinately believe in what FirstBorn is saying. There is a power beyond all else through Jesus Christ and whoever believes in Him can do great miracles through Him. He can make all the difference in your life. I do agree Boom Boom to each his own and that "Christians" should live thier lives so that others should desire to live like them and not be judgemental for they will be judged as they judge others. Right? E-mail me if I can explain it more to you. Great post and Thanks for sharing. Sincerely Yours love Doc  
Date: 6/22/2001 8:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 30630    I am Wiccan. I have read the bible, and have been to church. I am Wiccan because it feels right to me. I do not practice black magick or put hexes or power spells on people. I use magick to make my life better, not to ruin another. I believe in Goddess and Mother Earth. There are so many other reasons why, but I don't think I have enough room to put it all. Goddess Bless, Storm  
Date: 6/22/2001 9:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 35720    I have actually considered Wicca as a religion, but I never went through with it because I felt too strongly about God. I respect everyone regardless of religion, but I have let Jesus and God into my heart and there They will stay.  
Date: 6/22/2001 9:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 21266    Interesint post. I guess people like to convert to the wiccan religion since it's "exciting" if u know what im saying.
so-called "magic" "spells" and all. *Shrugs* it doesnt make them any different than the rest of us though =)
-AHD
  
Date: 6/22/2001 9:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 32789    i worship nothing. meru
Date: 6/23/2001 9:29:00 AM    ummm....FY....i never once mentioned my grandmother was wiccan i just said she did black magic - -i was useing her as an example of why most people convert to wicca for power and she had power and chose god (which she has power and love)....Im not saying that EVERYONE that convets to wicca are people that want power but im sayingthat most - mainly young children - convert to be witches and try to gain power - See FY.....PEOPLE are forcing you to worship, thats not god way - to force others - thats way he gave us free will - you chose wicca because of other people pusing there views on you not because god;s love wasnt there for you it was cause other peoples anger was keeping you -
Date: 6/23/2001 10:59:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    and she didnt practice black magick she DID black magick-she's was powerfull magickly and with her mind  
Date: 6/23/2001 11:52:00 AM  From Authorid: 35824    hmmmm,... interesting...  
Date: 6/23/2001 12:58:00 PM  From Authorid: 9713    I didn't convert because people were pushing their views, I converted because it FELT Right.  
Date: 6/23/2001 2:01:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    Thats fine, i have nothing agaist wiccans or people that convert - just wanted to let you know.  
Date: 6/25/2001 10:57:00 AM  From Authorid: 35662    hmmm, Well, Satan was cast out of heaven because he wanted to "do his own thing". God is the boss. He can put guidelines for you to follow. Doing it your own way has never been an option as to knowing Him. Satan being the great deceiver can make you feel whatever he wants. Feeling right and being right are two different things. After all, when Satan got Eve to eat the apple, I know it FELT right to her or she wouldn't have eaten it. His deception to Adam & Eve was the same exact precept: (Gen 3:4-5)"And the serpent said to the woman,'You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.'" Sounds an awful lot like "Do what you want" or the practice of magick as to "being like God". It's the same deception, just worded slightly different. Not being held accountable is very appealing to many, but I assure you there will come a day of accountability. I'm not forcing my belief on anyone, nor am I passing judgement. The bible says what the bible says. Rev. 30-22 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with My Father in His throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches." --- Ed ---  
Date: 6/25/2001 7:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 34814    Okay I will vent now also... There is a huge difference between Black magic and Wicca. Don't blacken are name okay...We worship the Goddess and God..We believe in God but it is different then the Christian faith. NO DEVIL!!! The Bible was written by man first off and was rewrote a bunch of times by people I question if they new what they were doing. There is nothing evil about Wicca. Not to nit pick but you need your facts straight. I understand you were stating the relations your grandmother had but that has nothing to do with Wicca. I believe in Jesus and I believe he heals. I do have a relationship with him and I don't need anyone or a Bible to tell me what to have with him. As for children, teens whatever wanting to convert cause of their parents come on..Just because their parents path is not what is good for their path makes nothing wrong. Wicca is about love and sending out what you want back and respecting mother Earth. Celebrating the seasons. How evil of someone to do that. I became Wiccan when I was 12 years old. Nobody had even told me about the religion..I found it and it felt right. I have been happy ever since. I got sick of pastors telling me how to have a relationship with God and how to live my life. As for the Bible saying Witches are evil or bad LOL I think that is just rotton. What is so wrong is half the people who were hanged and burned weren't even Witches they were people cheating on their partner, people wanting to steal someones land, and alot Christian being accused of Witchcraft. Now that is pretty nasty. Witches went underground to keep their beliefs and worship the Goddess and God and nature. They were practicing their own faith not bothering anyone. A drug caused the hysteria. Now how crazy is that? Then when christians were trying to force their religion on pagans they took in pagan holidays such as X-mas, Easter, Halloween ect.. What do you think Santa and Jesus being born have in common?? Or the rebirth of Chirst and a Easter Bunny or Easter Lily??all pagan.. To try to convert pagans. Hmm makes me wonder. Jesus is love.. NOT JUDGEMENT, NOT HATE,..HE IS A LOVER AND HEALER! Christianty is not the only religion and wasn't the first! I didn't not become pagan/Wiccan to do spells, Which I think I may have done 2 spells in the years I have been pagan and they were to promote spiritual love. I don't believe I have more power then anyone and care not to be the powerful one. That is not what paganism/Wicca is. Yes I disagree with the Bible is was written by man. I have no problem with Jesus. I am not trying to start a fight but myself as a pagan/Wiccan I have a right to state that here. I am happy your grandmother is happy in her spiritual path now. That is important in ones heart. Blessed be and Goddess bless to all the Wiccans..Blessings to all..Kitt~~  
Date: 6/26/2001 9:54:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    Havent read the rest of your comment yet kitt, I stated that about my grandmother cause i feel that most young teen's and such convert to wicca to gain some power, i was saying that about my grandmother cause she had power and chose god and now has a different power(talent)- saying that to to get a message across theres more to life then just gaining power.  
Date: 6/26/2001 9:56:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    Ascrazy as it sounds its very true, most teens convert to wicca cause there being forced to worship god and eventaully they go the other way there parent is pusing them.  
Date: 6/26/2001 9:59:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    I respect what you said and not objecting to anything of it. Your reasons for being wiccan are the right reasons, wish more people would understand that. But trully more teens are converting cause of those simple reasons stated i nthe above.  
Date: 6/26/2001 10:03:00 AM  From Authorid: 36459    Boom Boom: thanks for the post
  
Date: 6/26/2001 1:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 34814    Okay I just wanted the facts straight Yeens read my statement LOL Kitt~~  
Date: 6/26/2001 1:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 34814    TEENS*  
Date: 6/30/2001 9:56:00 PM  From Authorid: 38351    I believe in God, and it's true that when a being is conjured up, it can be rebuked in the name of the Creator. Therefore, God must be a higher power than black magic. He is all around us, the good and the bad. But He never said He'd live life for us, He just meant He wouldn't let us go it alone.
Date: 7/6/2001 12:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 36285    hey boomboom arent into the psi and psychic(however you spell it)classes are you new to following god fill me in on the story becuase i thought you were like PsiMage  
Date: 7/6/2001 11:06:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 26733    Me and psi mage are very much alive and very much different. My faith has been with god all the time. Not a new beliver - if you want to know more visit my site.  

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