Date: 3/22/2002 9:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 49789
lol i see what u mean, and it is pretty true.  |
Date: 3/22/2002 9:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 6050
I don't "KNOW" either..i'm not sure what to believe anymore...i just believe in what i feel to be the truth..and that still may not be the right answer...Ugh!!i don't like to be told what to do...lol I also don't like to be told what to believe...Ur right..no one really knows..so stop preaching to me already!( u know who you are!)I don't want to be led into the wrong path..so i chose to just go with instinct  |
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Date: 3/22/2002 9:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 6050
ummm..my little(u know who you are) thingy is no one on USM..so put down ur daggers :oP |
Date: 3/22/2002 9:21:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48858
Haha, I wanted to reply to that cuz I felt guilty, glad it's not me. ~*~Lievout~*~  |
Date: 3/22/2002 9:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 34476
Go read my reply on BoomBoom's post :)  |
Date: 3/22/2002 9:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 28848
It's called "having faith" Lievout...  |
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Date: 3/22/2002 9:38:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48858
I stand corrected, I know the man existed according to history. Thanks, Paranoid. I was talking a "divine" Jesus. Sorry for the lack of clarity peeps.~*~Lievout~*~ |
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Date: 3/22/2002 9:40:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48858
And, Release Me, it's great to have faith that a chair will hold you, but what good will that faith be when it breaks underneath you? Wouldn't you much rather know before hand that it had a broken leg? That is where I am at right now, getting up from the fall...~*~Lievout~*~ |
Date: 3/22/2002 9:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 37900
You have made a good point, Lievout. How will you know truth when you encounter it? If you have not accepted some source as true, you have nothing to measure your success by. The God of the Bible claims to have revealed the truth you seek; Jesus already claimed to be "the truth"; Allah has already revealed His greatest truths in the Koran. It therefore seems unlikely that any of the signs you have requested will be given to you. If they are, and you tell others about your revelations, you will probably be accused of being delusional. Everyone must have a method of determining what is true and why it is true. If there is no foundation, every inference is unorganized and confusing. I appreciate your honesty.  |
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Date: 3/22/2002 9:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48858
Well, you have me pegged properly. I do not even know what to claim as a source of Truth. My success can only be measured at the end when all questions will be answered. ~*~Lievout~*~ |
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Date: 3/22/2002 10:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 37900
You seem to be in a dilemma. If you have no source of truth, how can you trust the validity of any answers you receive? How will you know if your questions are answered? |
Date: 3/22/2002 11:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 35629
Hmmmmm interesting point but i will tell you this i believe in him myself sometimes you just have to go with the feeling ya get when you are touched and it happens to most whether they act upon it is up to them.  |
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Date: 3/23/2002 6:17:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48858
Alfrowi, I'm waiting to find that source. 20 yrs. I believed in God and Jesus...I went with "the feeling" and all I can say is that it did not stay with me despite my efforts. ~*~Lievout~*~ |
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Date: 3/23/2002 6:20:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48858
Funny you can't reply here, Paranoid, it's me you seem to be debating with. ~*~Lievout~*~ |
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Date: 3/23/2002 10:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 34476
If one does not believe the bible is the word of God, then they will not agree with me, Lievout :) I was trying to keep the same thoughts on the same post, is all. I'll post my reply on boomboom's post HERE, after this one for ALL who may not have seen it. |
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Date: 3/23/2002 10:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 34476
Well, Lievout ... if one would study a little ancient Roman history, they could learn that there WAS a man called Jesus who lived at that time in that place. (Israel) Whether or not He is the Christ is obviously debateable, NOT whether He actually lived. |
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Date: 3/23/2002 10:26:00 AM
From Authorid: 34476
Followed by your reply: Date: 3/22/2002 9:35:00 PM From Authorid: 48858 Yeah, yeah gotcha on that one...I know the man existed...guess I meant it from the heavenly aspect. You got me...sssss...you're hot! No need to be snide. ~*~Lievout~*~ |
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Date: 3/23/2002 10:26:00 AM
From Authorid: 34476
Followed by mine: Date: 3/22/2002 10:35:00 PM ( Your Reply ) From Authorid: 34476 LOL Lievout! I wasn't being snide... just blunt :) |
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Date: 3/23/2002 10:31:00 AM
From Authorid: 34476
I am curious, if you don't mind my asking: what made you change your mind after 20 years? |
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Date: 3/23/2002 10:31:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48858
Hmmm...big question. I suppose it was the norm...lack of evidence, assiastance, whatever. Yet, not. Lemme put it this way; I was raised in a Xian home, w/ Xian values, blah, blah, blah. All through out my life I saw Xian people fall to temptation and sin. I kept on. I did not let the mistakes of others turn my sight from God. Everyday I prayed to be stronger. To have more faith, more virtue. Everyday I asked for forgiveness for my short comings, for my lack of dedication. Though to anyone, I was on the right path. I worked with youth, sang in the choir and solos, went on missions trips, witnessed, read the Bible, prayed. And prayed and prayed and prayed. I prayed I would die rather than ride this fence of lukewarm Christianity. Know what happened? Nothing...no growth, no strength, no death. After I was willing to die, I was given nothing. So, that is what did it for me. Call me bitter, call me angry...just don't call me Christian. There were other things of course...my myth class that opened my eyes a little. Then I started to research other religions...and beliefs. I guess my old faith just died out. After all that time with no sign of help from above, I pitched it. And I know all the cute phrases about God's timing and He is always there...but, well, not for me. Trust me, I wish I could explain more about it tonite, but I cannot seeing how tired I am. That's a good way to describe it...tired. I'm tired of it all and look forward to its end. ~*~Lievout~*~ |
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Date: 3/24/2002 6:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 34476
Thank you, Lievout. You have given me more to think about. |
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Date: 3/25/2002 1:24:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48858
Paranoid: Okay...no problem, I guess :) ~*~Lievout~*~ |
