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CHRISTIANS AND WICCANS...Pammierose

  Author:  29928  Category:(Religious) Created:(4/18/2002 6:06:00 AM)
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Recently there was a post inidcating that Christians should apologize to wiccans for all threir suffering. First of all USM, is not a site soley intended for bashing in any form whatsoever. It is a site where people of all ages, faiths, nationalities, and backgrounds come together to share, support, learn and love one another. We are all family here and being so, we should always endeavor to treat each other as we would anyone else in our own families.

I want to make a point here for both Christians and wiccans alike:

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, these people of Wicca have been terribly slandered by us. They have lost jobs, and homes, and places of business because we have assured others that they worship Satan, which they do not. We have persecuted them, and God will hold us accountable for this, you may be sure, for He has said, "Assuredly I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me." (Matthew 25:40)

Let us, from this point onward, repent of our misdeeds and declare that henceforth we shall obey Christ our God, and not judge others or condemn them, so that He will not have to judge and condemn us for our sins.

We don't have to agree with each other, but we do have to respect each other's beliefs and the fact that we all are given free choice to choose as we will and do as we will.

NO ONE, be it a christian or a wiccan has the right to judge another, or belittle anyone for what they believe. Judge not, lest ye be judged!

As a christian and based on what the bible tells me, I don't agree with wiccan beliefs, but does that make a wiccan any lesser than me? Absolutely NOT! Does that give me license to bash or bereate them..absolutely NOT! Do they not bleed red blood just like me? Do they not feel and hurt just like me? I AM IN NO WAY CONDONING THE WICCAN BELIEF...I am just saying they have their rights, just like we do, to believe and to worship as they wish. I don't look at anyone as if they are beneath me, in fact, I look at all people as they are above me.

Please people, stop all the bashing and come to USM as a united front, being here to share and to care and use the site as it has been intended to be used.

Much love to all, Pammierose

WARNING: Since the whole purpose of this post is to hopefully help, I will delete any derogatory comment that is intended to in flame or insight. I am neither judge nor jury, but I will not see a christian or a wiccan insulted in this post.

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Date: 4/18/2002 6:12:00 AM  From Authorid: 19092    AMEN Pammie Rose!!!!! Your words are truely inspired, that was presented very well. I agree 100%,  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:13:00 AM  From Authorid: 24226    opps i hope s.o.t.d's post wasnt about this?? hmm maybe not. i dont think anyone should say they are sorry, cos its no one's fault  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:14:00 AM  From Authorid: 18527    Amen Pammie! I agree totally! I wish all of our Brothers and Sisters in Christ could see the world through your eyes!  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:16:00 AM  From Authorid: 49101    Amen my sista! I don't iunderstand what all the fuss is about, I think it would it would be an embarassment to Wiccans, to even Approach the mode of thinking, that we are owed some kind of an apology. And I have this to say to all of those who really are bashing any one else ... "Ain it harm none, do what thou wilt" Isn't that one of our first rules ladies and gents of the dark arts? And is it not another, "Thy lips parted, shall bring chaos, thy lips in silence remain the strongest." Lets not become enemies here, I do not think this is the time or place.  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:16:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 29928    Thank you King, and no, it had nothing to with sotd's post hun and I wish so too Kethria. God bless you all and hugs (always gotta have hugs),  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:18:00 AM  From Authorid: 25828    who's been bashing? i missed those posts i think (and am glad)...you're right..this is past..just like slavery *-) past is past we should leave it there.  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:20:00 AM  From Authorid: 6817    Is wicca a religion? It sounds more like a "hobby" to me.  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:25:00 AM  From Authorid: 24003    Great post Mom!! I totally agree with you! love,  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:26:00 AM  From Authorid: 25828    sort of like christianity freaqfreezee? for the ones that never hit the church door or crack open the bible..would that be a hobby? yes, it can be a hobby, for those that really don't care - just as with any religion.  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:27:00 AM  From Authorid: 6817    What EXACTLY is Wicca?  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:30:00 AM  From Authorid: 24226    oh i see...  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:31:00 AM  From Authorid: 6817    I really wanna know lol....  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:32:00 AM  From Authorid: 6817    I always thought it was people that hated God and worshiped the devil and envoked evil spirits and cast spells upon people.  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:32:00 AM  From Authorid: 33925    Excellent post Pammierose!! Very well written and wonderfully stated! xoxo  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:35:00 AM  From Authorid: 25828    i'm not wiccan. I'm pagan, but i do know wiccans don't worship the devil. I think LSG is wiccan. you might ask her freaqfreezee.  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 48710    you are absolutly right in what you say. there is not one reason one person should be put down b/c of what they believe in. because how would you feel if some one did that to you, not verry good probly, so i think befor we speak that we should think of how it would make us feel if some one said that to us. that could be the diffrence betweet now ur life ends. PoetryKing/SuperMan  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:46:00 AM  From Authorid: 24226    hmm i dont know why people want to make war between two religions   
Date: 4/18/2002 6:48:00 AM  From Authorid: 14412    Wiccan and Pagans are almost identical. Wiccan is the newer age of the pagan worship. We worship the same things you do as Pagans. To make it clear for Freaq...we do not worship the devil...lol We worship the God and Goddess, nature and all living things. We have what we call the rede, it is a set of rules we abide by. True wiccans and pagans do practice witchcraft, BUT it is white magic. Those that are into black maguc we do not condone or associate with. I hope that helps some.  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:59:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 29928    Absolutely PoetryKing/Superman in order to feel good about myself, I have to also feel very good about what I say. So I try to carefully judge my words and my thoughts. Whenever I even attempt to write seomthing like this, I pray to God for guidance. Hugs,  
Date: 4/18/2002 7:10:00 AM  From Authorid: 25828    true pre - pagans don't necessarily have those set of rules or the rede. there are so many pagan paths - each is different..yes, i think wiccans are more structured (rules, ceremonies..etc..)  
Date: 4/18/2002 7:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 27534    Lets get out the stones and burn them at a cross.......who do they think they are? Wiccans? And as to Christians there is only one denomination that is correct......all others are going to Hades....... And let me say Pammierose....you are absolutely right.....judging is God's business......and thanks for letting me post in a backhanded way my agreement.  
Date: 4/18/2002 8:03:00 AM  From Authorid: 16442    Yeah Heather! Go girl!! LOL....  
Date: 4/18/2002 8:32:00 AM  From Authorid: 8024    to me they are all people deserving equal respect of their veiws ...  
Date: 4/18/2002 8:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 46527    I totally agree, religion is only one part of a person, it is a choice like all others that we are able to make.  
Date: 4/18/2002 10:01:00 AM  From Authorid: 51393    this truly an excellent post  
Date: 4/18/2002 10:35:00 AM  From Authorid: 30742    I guess the Bible offends someone here at USM because my comment was deleted.Rev 22:15. Pammie, you need not apologize for what God forbids.......  
Date: 4/18/2002 11:21:00 AM  From Authorid: 14412    how did i know a good post would be made in to a bvattle ground by some...heesh  
Date: 4/18/2002 11:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 10146    Its just me. I am Looking in with Big Eyes, and my Mouth Gaped Wide open, and Tongue dropping to the floor!  
Date: 4/18/2002 5:30:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 29928    MsM your comment was deleted where? I didn't delete any in here at all. Hugs,  
Date: 4/18/2002 5:32:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 29928    Well darn Haadam, I forgot to sweep today, better roll that tongue back in...LOL..hugs..nice to see ya!  
Date: 4/18/2002 6:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    PammieRose, thank you. This is really beautiful & heartfelt. Thank you for speaking a language I cannot, about a subject dear to me. You are a shining star!  
Date: 4/18/2002 7:34:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 29928    You are so very welcome LSG and thank you for your heartfelt comment. I love it when people bridge the gap and when two worlds can come together in harmony. Much love,  
Date: 4/19/2002 5:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 12862    AMEN, PammieRose!!! I am Christian but now I am
reading up and learning Paganism. My soul mate,
Father Mindbender is a Pagan Priest and is teaching
me his ways. Love ya Phil! Hugs,
  
Date: 4/19/2002 5:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 25529    i agree with you on this. no one should blame the other, we're all human. heres a quote "Forgive and forget all is done, because once judgement day comes no one loses." I think lol  
Date: 4/19/2002 7:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 52781    good post pammie. i was born into a pagan family and it was a household rule to never judge anyone by thier race religion. thanks again for the post father mindbender
Date: 4/25/2002 3:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 8439    read into their history...look at the symbols they use...symbology is important in any religion...white or black magic...its no different...wicca is based on satanism pure and simple  
Date: 4/26/2002 9:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    Dr.X-you are mistaken, I am afraid. I do not worship Satan, I do not believe in Satan, so how can I worship him....?  
Date: 4/28/2002 10:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 48525    As a Wiccan, I think that the problem started with "Wiccans/Witches are evil and worship Satan" thing. We are not and we do not, and we don't like being accused of it anymore than Christains would. That is a real bone of contention with us. With all the persecution that ALL FAITHS have had to endure at one time or another, we should all step back, look hard at that fact and having been there ourselves, make a conscious effort to end the bitter cycle. Thanks for this, PammieRose!  
Date: 4/28/2002 10:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    Only our Creator knows the heart of any person and how well we live one another, loving and caring will surely be the one right thing we were intended to learn here in this life.  
Date: 4/28/2002 10:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    "how well we live with" sorry I left that out.  
Date: 5/30/2002 2:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 53500    Uh, well first you misused Matthew 25:40 . Brethren is reserved for other believers in Christ, not to Wiccans. Be carefully you don't misuse a Bible passage. But I do agree that we should love our everyone. Also, where's the backing of Wiccans losing there jobs and homes because a Christian slandered them? Since the beginning of History, pagans have persecuted Christians and Jews. No need to mention the Inquistion or any acts carried out in the Dark Ages by the Catholic church as it is not of the Christian faith.  

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