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Date: 6/10/2002 4:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 17516
Let me take care of this idiots assertions in a few quick sentences. This country was not empty when the European settlers came here. Therefore, if he wants to base his statements on what was here first and tradition, our language should be one of the native american tongues and our country is not a christian country (not that this was what was intended by the founding fathers anyway). To say otherwise and ESPECIALLY to add that if you don't like it, leave is arrogance of the highest order. What this author is really saying is that Europeans stole this country and because Christianity is in the majority, power and might rules, so no one else should count. How obnoxious. ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
YEP, us Injuns, were here first, so BYE YA'LL. ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:04:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42539
thank you i might add my mother in law ( a fudie whom is mad at me ) sent this to me knowing i am a pagan ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:04:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42539
i meant fundie ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 10722
They did an excellent job, and made some good points. ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
Sure ya did Kali, we know ya meant fudie and in dudie, LOL, I'm gonna tell, nanananananna. ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:41:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42539
go right ahead FB i told her that last night ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:43:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42539
Amonaly you have to remember not all american are christains i am a american but not a christain ![]() |
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Date: 6/10/2002 4:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
well, considering I just came from writing a post last night about closing our borders, I do have a few thoughts on the matter: first of all, my intention on tightening the borders, and restricting immigration is born of a logical means of attempting to secure the United States from futher attacks. My rationalization is: if we have a more limited amount of immigrants to watch, then we will have more time to investigate those already here. My Father, just finished a book on terrorism & will be meeting with his publisher this week. Now, my thoughts are my own, and do not reflect my Father's, who is retired from law enforcement & an expert in organized crime. I am spending time explaining this, so this debate doesn't get side-tracked with the "but you said.....". Now, to address the subject on your mother-in-law sending this to you. I agree, C of K, after our private talks, that her view of America, and Americans are much more narrow, and hurtful, than your thoughts, or my own. I do not mean this as a slight, and your husband deserves a lot of credit for the love & support he shows you. It is not easy for the son of a "fundie", with family pressures to be married to a Witch.And, after our discussions with one another, there is no question, that she knew this email would hurt you. FB- I understand K of C's use of the term "fundie" here, in relationship to her ,other-in-law, and it is quite approprate. I know you don't know K of C as I do, so you cannot know what she has suffered at the hand(s) of intolerance. K of C was not attacking "fundies"...she was calling her mother-in-law on, and the shoe fits..... Now, to the debate at hand. The first American's...the only TRUE Americans ARE Native Americans. Since that time, from Europe, China, Mexico, and every nation in the World, we have melted into the society of "America". We are all colors, all languages, and all religions, or lack thereof. Freedom to leave? Why, because we don't agree with the narrow-minded propaganda of "our Country, love it or leave it?", if we look different, speak different, or act different? I thought thats what made us GREAT! the ability to BE so many different people, and take the BEST of all cultures & be the most powerful nation in the world! In, what?, 230-odd years, we have become the best Nation world-wide, on the backs & hearts of ALL man (and woman) kind. Sorry, to go on-and-on,Kali.....but this is intolerance. ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
And there are MANY here at USM that have wrote VOLUMES about how "Our Forefathers" were NOT Christians, but "Deitest's",..... ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
If people want to live in a land, ruled by society & intolerance, I suggest, IRAN.... sorry to go on-and-on-Kali, but this is wrong. ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
And, what "culture" is he speaking of? The white-anglo-saxon-prodestant one"? The hispanic-catholic-family-first one? or the African-American-one?..... ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 4:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
This country was NOT "founded on Christian principles". THAT is Clearly documented. And, it is NOT appropriate to display anything religious on the walls of schools. ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 5:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 10915
Oh Wow! I take comfort in knowing that God only works for the Americans! Boy, I sure hate to see how the others are fairing at this time. (Notice the sarcasm?) I say the dude that wrote this really needs to re-read his history and get his head out of the sand. (Would have loved to say something that starts with A.) LOL ![]() |
Date: 6/10/2002 5:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
I do agree that if a person wishes to live here, then they need to adapt to the way we live. As for most of the rest, well, telling people where to kiss is not allowed here. God is not a part of our culture. The right of the people to worship freely without governemnt interference is. Not all do speak only English. I speak some Fench. My grandmother spoke some of a mix of Cherokee and Creek. God does not offend me, but I will live where I want to, because my ancestors were already here when the first whites arrived from England, France, and Spain. It is not appropriate to display "In God We Trust" in our schools, or our courtrooms, unless we are also willing to display the mottoes of other religions. I am proud to fly the flag, but Uncle Sam, in the guise of our government, does not always impress me, especially given the lies that were told to my people, and continue to be told. Last, maybe someone should plant this guy squarely in the middle of Iran, and let him get a dose of reality. Maybe then he would keep his mouth shut, and let others live their lives. ![]() |
Date: 6/11/2002 2:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 22080
i resent alot of this especially the in god we trust part it was adopted in the 50's ![]() |
Date: 6/11/2002 7:04:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
Warrior Spirit said something that I very often think about. IF many people could spend even one day in a country like Iran, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Pakistan, India, etc, what a very different perspective they WOULD have? To throw around the name of 'Freedom', when one doesn't know, and doesn't ever question: "Freedom from WHAT"? And if they don't even know the Constitution (as is evident here), they look like FOOLS to other countries. If the truth be known, most immigrants know far more about the laws, customs, and the Constitution of The United States, than its OWN citizens! ![]() |
| Date: 6/11/2002 9:20:00 AM From Authorid: 54196 I agree with everything but the God part. I think he just threw that in there to make his article longer. I don't think immigrants are the ones protesting state sponsered God endorsements. |
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