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Should people who abuse the delete feature lose the right to that feature,,,,, By Enki

  Author:  11528  Category:(Discussion) Created:(7/20/2002 8:34:00 PM)
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Hi Guys, These past several days have been interesting. Last Friday I was on a story written by a women from Florida. I left a comment and she replied along these lines,,,, "Stop it Enki, Your killing me, I havent laughed that hard in years" I wrote back and left a second comment to which she replied again. No problem just me and a women having a good cheerful conversation. I went to work minutes later and when I came home in the morning all four comments had been deleted. I messaged her and asked her if she was the one who deleted the comments. She hasnt replied and as of a couple days ago hadn't returned to the site.

So tonite a story goes up, a Young lady complaining about 911 stories, she said in her story that she would like something new pertaining to the 911 tragedy and not the same old stories. I replied and enclosed a link that I thought she might enjoy because the story was by pilots after a 3 day discussion and seminar. My friend Osiris came on the story and left a comment, I replied to him. I went back to the story to see if there was any followup and my comments were gone,,, deleted for no reason. Donno/Mystery man went on the sotry and replied to me but once he submitted his comment my comments were already gone. He submitted a second reply asking the author what had bcome of my comments and she deleted his question. Why do people do this? Do they not realsie that there was a time when authors of stories had no delete feature? Do they not realise that the delete feature is a privalege given to them to remove comments that have foul language or threats in them.

I suppose I could understand those actions if I had been rude or insulting, but I replied in good faith and provided information that I thought may have been of interest. To me this sets a dangrous precedent, one that we have seen before about a year and a half ago. People have to understand that the delete button is thier for Your protection, not an amusing toy to practice censorship with or to upset people who take the time to reply to Your stories.

I messaged the young lady and asked for an explanation and of course no reply. So my question now is,, should people who abuse the privalege of a delete button have that option removed from thier accounts? Yes or No

Bye for now. Enki

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Date: 7/20/2002 8:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    i don't think people abuse them.. i think people sometimes like to clean up posts that get off topic when there are few people replying...  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 16845    it really irks me when authors delete for no reason other than they have the power too....I only delete if the reply is hurtful towards myself or the others on the post or it's just plain rude and doesn't follow the guidelines, ya know the way it SHOULD be done. hmmmmm if it wouldnt be a difficult thing for admin to do that wouldn't be a bad idea at all I don't think :D....  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 41117    good idea.. and the funny thing is, I've gotten some bad replies, and still haven't deleted them, which I should probably do... very few peeps check out my stuff, so I figure leave it on... well, we'll see what happens... ~forestchild~  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 30630    I have only deleted comments from my post once. But trust me it was well deserved. I don't think anyone should delete the comments of someone expressing their views or just replying. What is the point in submitting a post if you are just going to delete the comments anyway? Good post Enki! **HUGS**  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 16845    I remember this one time It really ticked me off it was a riddle I had replied to. I made some comment to the effect *without stating the answer* 'I never would have figured that, I thought it was ______________ *fill in the blank I don't remember what I said*' the author deleted the comment I confronted them on the post as I knew people had seen my comment and were commenting about it too....her reply was that it had 'gone off the topic' hmmm ok *rolls eyes*  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:48:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Midnightly, That is a good point. However this young lady removed three of my comments and the comment of another author. It wasnt an accident. I know my comments are not always well recieved by people of differing viewpoints but I was sending along a link to a story I thought she may enjoy. You see whats scary is that if she gets away with it then she will brag to friends and they will start doing it and very quickly it can get out of control and a lot of people will get upset. How do we stop this abuse, perhaps by removing the privalege of the abusers would make it stop pretty quickly. Just a thought. Thanks for replying. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 15621    I have had that happen to me JUST BECAUSE people didnt like me Enki?......But yo uknow what....after some of the things I see that are allowed here at USM by a select few, Im not going to let it bother me..Ill just get delete happy my self......just go delete crazy dude and Zap al lreplies..p*** some people off...LOL......Controversy is the way to go here  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 19772    I think that they should have it taken away. These people put stories on here and want replies but they have to be replies that they agree with. No one wants to be told anything but their opinion. Well guess what people, if you don't want to hear other points of veiw..."Don't post your stories for people to reply to" I'm really sorry to hear that this happened to you not once but twice in a short period of time Enki. I think it was really nice of you to take the time to reply to their stories. You know, of course, these would be the same people who would whine and complain if they didn't get any responses at all to their stories. Sorry for your bad luck but I hope you'll keep on trying. Don't let a few close minded people spoil you on replying to other people's posts. :) ~Gabrielle~  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 7654    Hiya Enki,I like to read the replies myself..But I have to tell ya, when I first came on USM about 2 1/2 years ago I didn't know any better. Yep, I was guilty of pushing that bad old zap button...But then I soon learned that the replies were to stay up there. Maybe , there are some that are new that don't know that they stay up..  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 28946    I knew of one older usmer that is no longer here, used to think she had to delete her comments so her post wouldn't get messy. Then she wondered why nobody would reply to her stories any longer. I think we learn eventually who's posts to not respond to again since they have a problem with comments anyway. Good post Enki!  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 15621    Im telling you. some people are just mean....so just for kicks, here is what to do.......posts a good post and tel lthis "person" come check it out...and nuke ever comment they leave..that'll fix their wagon  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 32070    I don't know if they should lose the priviledge of the delete button. But I do know I would never reply to another one of their posts again. Probably others won't either, then you'll see a post crying about how they get no replies..:P..I don't think I have EVER deleted a comment from one of my posts. OK, ONE TIME. But I was ASKED to do that...*smiles* ....  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 18527    I think it would be a good idea... I hate it when my comments get deleted, there is one person here that deleted my comment 5 times from the same post! Jeez... that was a bit much!  
Date: 7/20/2002 8:56:00 PM  From Authorid: 18527    I usually delete double posts... just to clean up my stories, but that is it!  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 51049    I know which story you are talking about because I replied to it earlier, maybe the reason you haven't gotten any comments for a while is because she has not been on for a little while now, I'll just have to see if my comments get deleted as well. As far as the delete button, It is there for a reason and I think the people who abuse it and cause nothing but trouble and anger out of people should not be allowed to use it. People ask for our comments and they should all be left both good and bad, unless it is something totally off the wall and negative and has vulger and stuff.  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:05:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Thanks for replying people. It really is bothersome when this happens. Like I said in my story my replies arent always to agree as so many of You well know but when it is just outright abuse then its unacceptable. Sixgun my friend, I see Your point but to do that suggestion would just be to lower oneself to thier level. It wouldnt work although it would problably feel good for a moment. hehehe Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:08:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Becky, How are You? You have the right idea. You also raise a valid point. If the Admins went around and deleted everything they didnt like or agree with then there wouldnt be much to read on the site. Besides they would lose thier privalege in a real hurry. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:10:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Forsetchild, Cool name, I like it. Hye just keep replying to stories and signing Your name until You get a tag and You will have lots of people visiting Your posts. Take care. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 33925    You know..I think that if someone IS abusing the delete button they should lose that privilage..Nothing frustrates me more than to take the time to reply to a post..only to go back and find that the author has deleted my replies, as well as many others..  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:11:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Gabrielle, thanks for the reply and You said it so well. I agree completely. Thank You. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:14:00 PM  ( Admin-MG )   This is a great post Enki! I know what you mean! Why do people do that? & Sometimes us moniyors get blamed for it when it the author themselfs! I say don't delete! unless it a angry or mean or hurtful reply!
Date: 7/20/2002 9:14:00 PM  ( Admin-MG )   Gosh thats monitors!
Date: 7/20/2002 9:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 16950    Wow! Very interesting question, Enki. I have an idea but am not sure if it would be possible & would probably be too much work. I think it would be a good idea if they were given a warning or even a "3 Strikes, You're Out" rule so that after the 3rd warning they no longer had the priveledge of deleting comments to their posts. I don't think this would happen anytime soon but I do think it would be a good idea & 1 to think about imposing sometime in the future. :o) But in the meantime maybe there should be a rule that after 3 warnings that the person can no longer make any posts for a week or for some other set time-period. I mean if that is possible. Then if they do it again, make it a month & so on. Gosh Enki! This is a hard question! LOL But another good 1, Hon. :o) I'm sorry your comments were deleted. I just don't understand the point in that. Oh & thank you for posting a thought provoking post! Hee hee :o) Take good care & Bless you! Love & hugs,  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 16950    Author 53052 does make a pretty good point. Maybe that's why some people delete harmless comments? Not sure. :o) Love & hugs,  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:18:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Firecracker, Yes Your right. I agree. Maybe just by posting this story will make people realise that the delete button is there for there own benefit and protection and should not be abused and used for mischief. Thanks for stopping by. Take care. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 28363    LOL, yeah that waz kinda funny in a weird way, after
I researched the (long) link post you referred to
(lmbo) and left a reply (checked the spelling) hit submit
and then *poof* your original is missing and mine
is like floating there with no context. Nice post
Enki, good point
  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 14254    Hi Enki! I, for one, am very hesitant about deleting comments. That's not saying I've never done it, though. I think, in many ways, people do abuse the privelege of the delete button. Don't they know it's akin to censorship? Still, there are times when comments absolutely have to go...and times when posts themselves have to go; just ask the administrators. People who are kind enough to read my posts are rarely deleted. I am an adult and respect all points-of-view, no matter how much I disagree. Someone could argue that arsenic doesn't kill, and I'll still listen if it's done in a calm, rational, or even humorous way. However, I can't stand jerks in any case. I've learned also to be watchful of people who delete comments too easily...they are usually the same kind that will burn books and imprison "subversives". I stay away from their posts because I know that I have no free speech there.  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:22:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Ladyluck, Good to see You. Yes I know the frustration of having valid replies deleted. I just hope that the few people who think it is a toy will realise that deletion for no reason other than not agreeing with the person is poor behavour and wont be tolerated. Thanks for dropping in. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 26452    I HATE it when people delete my comments for no reason,I think I've only deleted one comment from a post of mine,and that was because it was a double post,and its WAY off topic,rude,cusses,a double post or something like that I can understand that,but when they just get delete happy,then I think they should be msged,if they dont explain why they did it,they either warn them,or take away THEIR ability to delete comments.  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:26:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Chatmin MG. I had never thought of that before. Your right, it problably does happen and the Monitors get blamed for it. I think that has only happenned to me once and quite a while ago too. Thanks for popping in,, now get back to work. hehehe Just teasin ya MG. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 16950    LOL!!! Oops! *blush* I read the last part of the post incorrectly. LOL I thought it said should they have their accounts removed. LOL Everytime I try to multi-task I seem to miss important key words! LOL I guess I won't shop anymore while I read posts. Hee hee *blush* With that sai, YES! I feel that they should have that priveldge deleted from their accounts after the 3rd time they do it. :o) Sheesh! LOL Love & hugs,  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:29:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Penny, good to see You. Are You serious, was there actually someone who thought they were supposed to remove the comments after they read them. I suppose thats possible but I find it hard to believe,, I mean the purpose of posting is to get feedback and an exchange of ideas,,, and sometimes opinions. hehhee Take care penny. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:31:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Storm, I missed replying to You. I agree and You are right. Why post if You dont want the comments. Stay Happy SG. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:34:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Nan Sassy, How are ya. Are there really people who think the comments are to be removed. Thats incredible that they would think that. Goodness I cant even think of a witty analogy for that. Oh well. Have a great evening. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    Ya know what...I agree with on this Enki. I myself have only ever deleted replies which have been nothing but abuse (and foul language)...which is very rare thankfully. But yes, I've noticed some seem a little too delete happy...anything that doesn't go along with what they hold as truth soon gets the snip. I totally agree with SixGun too...enough Mr NiceGuy...time to kick some butt:) Peace,  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:36:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Private Lady, So You have never provoked someone to the point of sending You a nasty message. Your a saint then. hehehe Ive had a few nasty comments and messages over the years. No surprise there huh. hehehe Night PL.. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:40:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Frisky, Not a bad idea,BUT then people would know that they can get away with it a couple times. I say strike hard and fast the first time,, kind of like nipping it in the bud before it spreads. Thats just my opinion though. I hope people respect the privalege and that it never comes to that.Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:42:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Kethria, sorry I missed Your reply too. 5 times on one post, ouch!!!!! Thats just plain rude and cruel. Thanks for stopping by. Take care. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 7341    I never delete comments on my stories...if someone has something to say, who am I to keep that person from voicing their opinion? I think it's childish and cowardly when people do that...good post..maybe it will open the eyes of the people who are doing it (but knowing our luck they won't read it, eh?)  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 1631    I don't think we should have a delete button period, but since I'm sure that will never fly, I DEFINITELY agree with you, Enki. That is so VERY irritating when you are deleted by an author because you don't agree with them and they want to edit their posts so THEY look "good". GRRRRR!...  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 13370    Yes. I've had that happen to me too.  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:48:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Donno, Yeah it must have been weird for You. You type out a long reply and poof its out there in the middle of nowhere. Kind of funny now that I think of it. Sort of like getting stood up huh. Thanks for droppng by. Take Care Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:56:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Blue Moon, I quite agree. Censorship burns me. Its akin to no free speech, yet at the same time there is a need for it to a certain degree. Being a monitor is sometimes tough because You sit there and wonder on occasion if You should let this one through or not. I've had to make borderline calls sometimes and it leaves You wondering if You made the right call. Book burnings the like is just unacceptable but that type of behavour often starts out with censorship. Basically censorship is the suppression of thoughts and ideas and controlling them so its a control mechanism which flies in the face of freedom and is freedom not what our countries are about and what made them great. Thanks for dropping by and a million thank You's for returning to USM. A lot of folks are glad Your back. Take care and blessings to You my friend. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 9:58:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Again Frisky, no problem on the multi tasking. I do the same thing sometimes but its good in a way because it shows You can really focus in on something when need be and that is a good thing. Bye for now. Enki * Now stare at this watch * hehehe  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:01:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Moon Angel, Yep a suspension would cure them in a hurry. To me the button is there for a specific need and not to be used to anger people or play games. If they dont respect that then take it away. It would adjust thier attitude in a hurry. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 16950    LOL Thanks Enki. Hee hee :o) Love & hugs,  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    The delete button is fine, if it's used in the proper way, which is to remove rude comments. However, I have seen it misused. I think the crown for King of Delete should be given to Range Rider (even though he's no longer here). His favorite trick would be to delete your comment, but reply to it as if you'd said something else (usually something offensive or stupid). I have a candidate for the Queen's position, but since it's someone still on USM, they shall remain nameless. I'll tell you what I usually do. If I think my comment might be unnecessarily deleted, I save a copy of it (if I haven't done this, I hit the back button till I find it). Then I just repost it. Sometimes it's necessary to do this several times, but if the author of the post is just being a dishonest by not wanting all different opinions, I find it's worth the trouble to continue pasting in my original reply. Or, if someone is posting in discussions (or another catagory) just so they can dishonestly delete, I will sometimes cut and paste their story into debates so that the other side can be presented. I find that I don't get deleted too often anymore, LOL. I wonder why?  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:06:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Corky, I feel honoured that You stopped by. I agree it is childish of people to abuse it that way. I ran into this a few times back during the Religion wars. It irritated me to no end and I had a method of dealing with it but thats not allowed anymore. hehehehe Im sure that a few of the people who do this for pleasure or to anger others will miss this post but just seeing the story line in the index will plant the thought in thier minds and they will reconsider. Nip it in the bud. Hey thanks for stopping by. Take care. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:10:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Agent Smith, My apologies for missing Your reply. Im glad You agree on this, if it ever got out of control it could do a lot of damage to the site so best stop it quickly. Man You and Sixgun have developing attitudes of no messing around lately. I think You guys need holidays. You two will end up like me if You continue and thats a scary thought. hehehehe Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:16:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Ali, I understand Your thoughts on this but I disagree with the no button deal. Heres why. During the school year a lot of the Young folk all come on around suppertime. A lot of the admins are picking up the kids from school or preparing supper or they are on thier way home from school themselves. This is the most vulnerable time of the day for USM. Few admins around and the plac is filling with kids coming from school. If some punks jump onsite and leave vulagarities on a bunch of stories the chances it will be caught quickly by an admin are slim and that is where having the button is of great benefit to the authors,,, plus it saves lots of time to just have the author take care of the problem. Its a privalege that shouldnt be abused. I also agree with what You say about people grooming thier story to make themselves look good, that is just palin wrong and people like that are soon found out. Thanks for dropping in. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    I'm taking him on holiday starting next week. We're going to So. California for a month. Disneyland, the beach, shopping and FUN in the sun. Hopefully that'll do the trick!  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:22:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Emerald, it isnt much fun is it. Thats why I did this post. If this post doesnt scare em into compliance then the other solution will come into play and that will nip it in the bud. Thanks for stopping in. and nice to meet You. Beautiful name by the way. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 15621    Its the things that allowed here that gets me Enki...it makes me say.."screw it" Ill be a jerk to and bash this and that religion and delete a few replies and maybe accuse this person of this or that..you know?, then maybe follow someone around a bit and cyber stalk them and then have it all condoned....sucks...so, fight fire with fire and have your hour of fun........you know I dont feel this way but sometimes, just for a second, the thought does go through my tiny little brain...lol  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:26:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Karma, Old RR used to delete comments???? Wow. hehehee Im just kidding, I remember only too well. Hey Your method would be a lot of work but very effective. I dont think we can do that anymore though can we? Lets just hope that people respect the button and only use it the way it was meant to be used. Great to see ya. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:27:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    OMG KK, You saw that comment, You werent supposed to see that. I was horsing around. Hey Have a great holiday and be careful in the sun. Burns hurt. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    We're not supposed to do that anymore? Hmmm, I dunno? Works for me! LOL  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 1631    Six Gun, you just described my #1 USM arch nemesis to a "T"!!! LMAO! He could be a delete monster, too. Yet another reason for me to despise the punk...  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:34:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Sixgun, Yeah I know what You mean. I also know You on a personal level now and Your not like that in real life but I can understand Your hardening over the past couple years. Its almost like being nice is an invitation to being abused. Well if You think a tougher exterior wouold help okay, just as long as You remember who You truly are. Sometimes though ya gotta take a nip out of people to get thier respect. Be nice about it though. Bye for now my friend. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    Yeah...I hear ya Enki, must admit I've kinda been a little 'confrontational' in a few of my replies today...dunno, maybe its the Winter Weather here...or more than likely its what SixGun just said...ya know, right now I'm thinking like SixGun "Screw it...who cares, speak how I wanna speak instead of trying to be all diplomatic about things." Who really cares anyway. I've seen some stuff happen on this site in the almost 20months I've been here...peeps say the most wicked things, get booted and come back again...peeps get booted for doing stuff all...peeps leave because peeps who SHOULD have been/be booted AREN'T...really Enki...its kinda getting to be 'No More Nr Nice Guy' time. Maybe I need a break...or another beer...dunno...think I'll go with the beer for now:) Peace,  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 1631    *shares her brewskis with Agent Smith cuz it sounds like he needs a few tonight* lol...  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    Cheers ALI...and ya know what...I'm gonna pay you a compliment here - so don't go getting a big head about it or anything - LOL! But I read one of your posts today and I totally agreed with it. I really miss the times when I first came here...and peeps would argue a point...no holds barred...you are SOOO right, those arguments often lead to peeps getting to know eachother better. For instance, when I first came here me and Debbie (Firstborn) just butted heads something wicked...full-on knock down drag out arguments over religion...but ya know what...Debbie and I became good friends and she has my total respect now...coz we got to see where the other was coming from, totally KNOW their point of view MINUS all the fluffy covering. We can't seem to do that now. And in a way I miss it. And it just peeves me off totally when I see peeps who are just basically nasty to the core still hanging around, yet good peeps like Gail etc have left because of it. Sure, thats their choice to leave and I respect that...but it ain't fair and it TOTALLY fries my onions. So ALI...maybe soon ya might have to make some room in your camp for me...coz I'm feeling like shaving off all this 'fluff' and coming across to the 'Dark Side' *smile* Peace,  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 13370    No, it isn't much fun. I was upset that my comment was deleted because I took the time to say something and it wasn't rude and I didn't disagree with the author either. I don't think the people who do this understand that it's a privilege to have comments, at least nice ones anyway. Thank you, it's nice to meet you too.  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 1631    LMAO /@ Agent Smith. I'll order an extra cot and sleeping bag in case you decide to make the transition. BTW, it's not so bad on the "Dark Side" - Wednesday night is s'mores night! :P...  
Date: 7/20/2002 10:57:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Agent Smith. In all honesty I understand Your concern. Ive been here long enough to see things that make no sense to me at all. I know how frustrating it can be but we all handle it in different ways. Sometimes my attitude swings from day to day too. Just remember though You love the site as much as we all do. Do what You feel is right but stay out of trouble. Speak Your mind but try not to hurt anyone and remember there are kids who are watching and we dont want to set a poor example. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 11:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 3321    There was a girl who deleted my comments to her joke, and I'm not sure if it was her or an Admin. Thing is I said on there that if I take time out of MY schedule to reply to HER story then she needs not delete it. She then very RUDELY messaged me and told me I was crazy, etc. and she didn't delete them. Delete crazy admin out there somewhere or a lying poster? Who knows...  
Date: 7/20/2002 11:10:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Ya know what. FB is an enigma. Seems all her best friends are the people she fought tooth and nail with, still it isnt right to carry on the way we did like that in front of impressionable teens. Hey maybe we could ask George for a chat room for adults only. I bet that would get full of people in a big hurry. But You know what, I visited a couple sites that are serious and adult orientated, by that I mean politics and religion and it gets boring on a steady diet of that stuff. We would still be at USM just for the sheer variety of topics and the gentleness of the people. Its hard with just serious stuff all the time. And Im problably one of the most serious people here. Anyway I know Your frustration with some of the things that have gone on here but give it yet more time. These things balance out in the long term. Bye for now and good night. I gotta get to bed. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 11:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 3321    LOLOLOL!!! You wanna talk about Firstborn!!! She was my number one enemy at one time...it made my blood boil just to think about her name! Same with Dizzy Me...now? Well, I love Deb to pieces, and Dizzy and I get along just fine. And I used to butt heads with Thunderhead pretty bad, too-and she's my USM Sister now-and the best one anyone will ever have. And to this day I still get into some "nasty" debates with people...and I can't help it! Once you get me going I just can't stop until you at least acknowledge that you've seen things from my viewpoint...not that you have "agree" just see....lol. Although there's one person here I could never be friends with again...and to think-I never even fought with her.  
Date: 7/20/2002 11:21:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Perse, in all honesty the comments that were deleted last week between me and the women from Florida really puzzles me. I do not know who deleted them but the thought did cross my mind that they were removed by someone other than the author because of the topic. Basically the topic was pertaining to CIA wrongdoing and I cannot fathom why we cant discuss that. Isnt the site for all people. I tried contacting Ginger for clarification about topic matter but she hasnt gotten back to ma yet. It may also have something to do with the new laws that Bush passed and being critical of Govt. etc. Face it free speech is getting more and more limited in the USA. Man I really got to talk to Radman and Ginger on new govt. laws. Its something we got to look into to protect the site. It would be a shame to get them in trouble for posting that Bush is a bad guy. Kay gotta get to bed. Nite all. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/20/2002 11:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    LOL@Persephone! I totally hear ya on that...for real...there was a time even just seeing her name on the screen immediately threw me into Attack Mode...hahaha...funny how that works ain't it. Shes an Enigma for sure Enki...and such an awesome person when ya get to know her better. Peace,  
Date: 7/20/2002 11:36:00 PM  From Authorid: 3321    hehe...yeah probly what it is. Gosh darn it! We can't say anything anymore without someone looking over our shoulder and telling us to be quiet...I'm quite paranoid about the KGB turn towards citizen spys that our government has taken.  
Date: 7/21/2002 2:12:00 AM  From Authorid: 28946    Really Enki, she really did erase the comments and she had been here for a month before I came and I told her she had to keep them as she had responded to her own posts alot too. How I know is it was my sister. My older sister. LMBO! But I have had others here delete even innocent comments and still others ask for advice and when you give it, they beat you down and writes posts on how rude the comment was. So I won't respond to those peoples posts any more that are delete happy. I also think your comments are rude in any way as you are getting your opinions across politely. So, to the delete happy people, they are missing out on some good commentors! LOL! Their loss!  
Date: 7/21/2002 7:20:00 AM  From Authorid: 28363    lol w/karma killer because thats so funny where you said, "I save a copy of it (if I haven't done this, I hit the back button till I find it). Then I just repost it. Sometimes it's necessary to do this several times..."  
Date: 7/21/2002 7:32:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Good Morning Perse, I wonder if You have run across any of the new laws and regulations that have been enacted in the Patriot act or the homeland security bill. We have all heard of these new laws but does anyone know what they contain? I ask because in an article I read on Friday it said that one of the laws which is already in effect is that Your not allowed to criticise a sitting president,,, or one that is drunk and falling down and choking. I just wonder if that is true. What are the new laws when it comes to speaking about the Prez or the government? Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/21/2002 7:37:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Good Morning Agent Smith. I agree. I did not like FB at all when she first came here. She and Sixgun were a thorn in my side,,, until I finally spoke with FB by phone and realised that she is pretty cool. I have gotten to know both of them and they are A-1 people in my books now. Im going to meet them both in person in Sept. and that should be a lot of fun. I look forward to it. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/21/2002 7:38:00 AM  From Authorid: 3263    Yeah, I was wondering about that too, on that one post...I was like, did he confuse Donno with Osiris?? Hmm...I guess people feel threatened if someone has a opinion that varies from their own, and they feel they have to delete it...  
Date: 7/21/2002 7:39:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Penny, I hope that the sentance in Your post is supposed to read " I also think that Your comments are NOT rude in any way,,,," Hehehehe, Bye for now Penny. Enki  
Date: 7/21/2002 7:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 23037    the delete button is there to delete comments that you dont want , its that simple....  
Date: 7/21/2002 7:47:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Good Morning dark Crow. It puzzles me as to what happenned. I was not offering up much opinion, it was actually a comment with a link to a story about a group of pilots who got together to brainstorm for a few days and what thier conclusions were about the 911 incident. The 2nd. comment was to Osiris, the 3rd.comment was aksing the person why she removed the comments and Doono also asked her why and she deleted his comment as well. I decided to nip this practice in the bud by reminding these people that abuse of the delete feature could possibly lead to removal of the delete button. Hopefully they will think it through and cease this annoying practice. Imagine the harm if this practice of deletion was picked up on by a whole lot of folks. Best to nip it in the bud. Thanks for stopping in. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/21/2002 7:52:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Eet. I disagree. The delete button is there to remove insulting or threatening comments. If people think its there to remove just comments they dont want then the discussions and debates are going to turn into one sided viewpoints and this will further reduce the willingness of readers to post comments. There is already a shortage of comments on the site and if people think the button is to be used to groom thier stories to thier favour then nobody will be posting comments for fear that they are wasting thier time. Communication would be lost and I think that would be harmful to the site. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/21/2002 8:06:00 AM  From Authorid: 28946    Yipes! I'm so sorry on that error! I meant you are never rude! I'm so sorry. *BLUSHES*  
Date: 7/21/2002 8:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 17516    Dangit Enki! Why did you delete my comment??  
Date: 7/21/2002 8:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 17516    LOL, Just kidding!  
Date: 7/21/2002 8:33:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Karma, Sheeesh, dont say stuff like that until my coffee kicks in, it confuses me so early in the morning. Hehehehe Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/21/2002 8:34:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Penny, no problem, we all make slips like that from time to time. heheheh Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/21/2002 2:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 23037    i still say if its my post and i want a comment deleted it should be my choice. now your calling that abuse, i disagree but respect your opion,,,bye now  
Date: 7/21/2002 5:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 19173    I so agree with you, a few weeks ago a girl asks for help about her being in love with 2 guys. So I was very nice and I replied to her telling her what I think I should do. Then I go back to the post and she deletes my comments for no reason. I messaged her about it and the same thing happened she didn't bother to answer me back. I saw your comment on the 911 thing, I read the article you gave, but I can't understand why that comment was deleted either.  
Date: 7/21/2002 5:28:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 11528    Hi Lisa, Thanks for stopping by. I see You have been treated in this same rude manner. Aggravating isnt it. Take care. Bye for now. Enki  
Date: 7/21/2002 10:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 3321    Enki, I've been meaning to read these laws for myself. I'll definitely be checking into it. I'd like to eventually compile some sort of comparison-how our government is evolving from a capitalist republic to a dictatorship. That could take a while though...and probly get me thrown in jail :-p  
Date: 7/22/2002 6:38:00 PM  From Authorid: 3263    Perse...can't do laundry in jail! :o :p  
Date: 7/1/2005 3:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 16376    Interesting thought. I know I have had comments deleted for no reason here, and it does upset me because its like I wasted my time trying to give them a reply.  
Date: 7/22/2005 1:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 60685    In my opinion, if the reply is not disrespectful it is pretty childish to delete it just because maybe that person doesn't see eye to eye with you. As an author a person is practically putting themselves out there therefore inviting a response, some negative and some positive, you have to be mature enough to take in the good with the bad, otherwise don't even bother posting. LOL, I might sound a bit mad but ignorant people like that simply get on my nerves.  

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