Date: 8/4/2002 9:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 27554
Welp, it may be wrong, but if other people are going to do the wrong thing, it doesn't concern you... They are't hurting anyone except for that baby... and the baby belongs to her... no one else is going to carry it and have it for her... so no one else can tell her what seh should do with it  |
Date: 8/4/2002 9:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 58268
I remember once with my Church we all went out onto a busy street with sidewalks and we had big signs that said "Abortion is Murder" and other stuff like that. There were about 100 of us and I got a few replys from people driving by. Abortion is soooooo wrong. They could just have the baby and give it away!  |
Date: 8/4/2002 9:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 56446
i think abortion is none of anyones bussiness, if some one wants an abortion then let them get one. itd not ur problem, its not anyones problem. if they feel they made a mistake by "killing" their baby then let them live with their guilt. its not u that they are killing, and its not u killing the kid. so let them go to hell, dont worry about what the other people are doing and stop sticking ur nose up to them, go about ur own business and ferget about it. theres nuttin really anyone can do about it, cause its gonna be done. wether the mother gets hit in the stomach to kill her baby or goes to an abortion clinque. its gonna be done.  |
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Date: 8/4/2002 9:12:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48771
They aren't gonna go to hell for having a abortion!!! God will forgive them. |
Date: 8/4/2002 9:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 820
If a woman wants to have an abortion, then let her. SHE will have to live with it for the rest of HER life, not you, so don't worry about it. It isn't right for you to say I'm wrong for thinking this way..  |
Date: 8/4/2002 9:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 56446
"god" will "forgive" them. pah!.... "god"  |
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Date: 8/4/2002 9:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 16000
Well Jessica.....I respect u for not downing people who have abortions but yet you admit your freedom of speech by sayin g you don't agree with it....that is fine! I really never see anyone say that so i respect u for it....IF u feel like digging look on my stories to see my ABORTION POST......i really respect u alot for not giving an opinion on someone's shoes u haven't been in.... |
Date: 8/4/2002 9:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 54441
if u ask me its really the would-be mother's choice..if she feels she has done a mistake getting pregnant and is incapable of of affording her and her child's expenses..and is of course single...then she may get an abortion done...and its no crime according to the law..missyterious girl**~  |
Date: 8/4/2002 9:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 39272
i dont know if i agree with u..i think abortions ok in some cases..  |
Date: 8/4/2002 9:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 33925
Thank you for sitting in judgement of all women who have been forced to make a decision on wether to "murder" their unborn child..Im sure those women who have been raped, molested, or worse..or the women who would have died if they had of carried the child, really appreciate knowing that you consider them murders.  |
Date: 8/4/2002 9:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 30477
You are strong willed and true to your convictions. Master the English language and you might just have a case.  |
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Date: 8/4/2002 10:00:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48771
I think abortion is okay too in some cases b/c im only 13 years old and if i were to get raped i would keep the baby or if i had too give it up for adoption what evers best for the baby |
Date: 8/4/2002 10:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 15997
I feel abortion is wrong and I would never have one no matter what. Other people can do what they want because they will be the ones to live with what they did for the rest of their lives...my friend's sister had an abortion and regreted it so much. For the women who were raped, molested, ect...its sad for a pregnancy to occur that way but i still feel its wrong...but with all the debate posts in the past on this topic I've learned to see other peoples points of view yet keep my beliefs that its wrong...it doesnt hurt to try and understand why some choose to do it for medical reasons or personal reasons such as rape and molestation...its just sad and very wrong when its done for a person's own selfish reasons.  |
Date: 8/4/2002 10:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 56057
Jessica, I know you are only thirteen years old, so I praise you for feeling safe and comfortable enough to post this. Let me just say though my sweet, as you grow older you will realise everything doesn't have to be black or white, there is a lot of grey, and also our opinions change as we grow older. This is such a tender issue. There are many reasons why it could be right or wrong. Just remember God put us on this earth not to judge each other but to live in peace, love & harmony. I can see reasons to have an abortion. For instance a rape victim, someone who is mentally or terminally ill, someone who is poor or destitute, a young girl with no resources or if a women just doesn't think they could cope with a child. You have to remember you have that child for at least 20 years after you have them. They don't just go away. You have to love them and support them. Do you think that mother should have that baby if she can't care for it properly. How would that baby feel being dumped in a dumpster or left on a footstep because the mother couldn't cope?? It is easy for some people who havn't had children to judge potential mothers by saying they should just have the baby and give it away. That could be just as difficult if not more difficult to do. Your body goes through so many changes when you have a baby. I just think there are some circumstances when it could be an option. Then there is the other times I don't agree with it, like women who use abortion as a form of controception . But in all we should not judge people. The world would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything, right....Big Bear Hugs to all...Boomie Bear...ps jessika please msg me if you ever wanna chat. I believe you are a very sweet person.  |
Date: 8/5/2002 9:42:00 AM
From Authorid: 26779
I think up until 3 months is ok to have an abortion but over 4 months is wrong. I don't think a child should be born and giving to foster care there are enough children in foster care and there are not enough people or families to take them in. Why have a child you don't want and can't aford. The people who thinks that it's such murder, I would like to know how many foster kids do they have. Are they the same people who are against welfare?  |
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Date: 8/5/2002 12:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 57506
YES it IS!!!! |
Date: 8/5/2002 4:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 19613
I don't understand the people who are saying, not to worry about it, that it's the mother who has to live with it, so why should you worry. By this logic, you could ask why put someone who murders someone else behind bars, why get involved, if you were not directly affected. If you believe abortion is murder, then surely the murder of an unborn child is every bit as serious as that of a grown adult. Not that i've really made up my mind one way or the other, but there you go.  |
Date: 8/5/2002 5:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 3321
Great. Glad YOU think its wrong, but I believe in choices.  |
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Date: 8/5/2002 10:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 60299
i hear what your saying dark phoenix. the reason is that logic is being twisted to suit the wants of an "if it feels good do it society". how conveinent. i have been in on the abortion issue on another debate and also professed that i believe abortion to be murder when used as birth control as apposed to medical emergency or necessity. that includes rape victims. it could be terribly psychologically traumatizing for a woman to carry a rapist's child. 3 months for abortion? when does it become a living, feeling thing to different pro choicers? i am very curious to know. my daughter is EIGHT weeks pregnant and they heard the baby's heartbeat. the baby doesn't belong to the mother. the mother may be nurturing the baby but it belongs to the mother and the father. it took a man and a woman to create that baby and the baby is the flesh of both people so how can it belong to the mother? both people made a choice, took a gamble, and lost. so, now there has to be more extreme choices because you screwed up? when does choice stop and responsibility and obligation begin? as for mothers that can't cope, they are not procecuted for abandoning their child anymore so they could leave that baby anywhere they thought it would be helped like a hospital. who said life was easy. everyone has consequences when they make mistakes. all people have to make difficult dicisions.here is a good reason for it to be everyone's business. has a nation we all have an obligation to set standards for our society. that is why these types of issues come about. concern, knowledge, debate, all these things help shape our society so it is important for people to score points on their debates, to feel passion for the issues they are concerned about , and be worried about the moral decay of our society as a whole. i think some of you were a little hard on jessica for expressing her concerns, beliefs, and opinions. not to mention condecending. she may be 13 and childless, but she has the hormones of a woman already and as fast as children are made to grow up these days, i have no doubt she knows her mind. i have a child and have raised three other children and my opinions have not changed. there is a difference between judging and expressing your opinion. i think being a bully to get someone to back off of their opinion is immature. i didn't expect to see that at all from some of the people i've seen doing it. just my OPINION *grins* exasperated |
Date: 8/5/2002 11:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 46515
Jessica there is a lot of rhetoric and rationalizaton. It is wrong. No matter what nonsence people spew out.  |
Date: 8/6/2002 11:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 61188
The day after you have a baby would you kill it? no... you could be easily charged for killing a baby. one of the 10 commandments even says "Tho shalt not kill" it's doesn't say "Tho shalt not kill UNLESS it's unborn, then it's OK to MURDER your baby's fetus" you aren't supposed to kill. period. that's my belief at least. i know other people differ, and i know i should respect that too. =) -:+:- Rachel -:+:-  |
Date: 8/7/2002 7:22:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 48771
I agree w/ u rachel i never thought of it like that *~*Jessica*~* and a babys life starts @ conception so even if is just a bunch of cells it is still a baby |
Date: 8/7/2002 12:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 27554
Yes, even when it's a bunch of cells it's a baby.... but who keeps that bunch of cells in their bellies to make it grow? That bunch of cells in her belly will grow, and who will provide the necessary nutrients to make it grow? Who will go through morning sickness and back pains and any other discomforts of preganancy... and labor or a c-section just to give it away at the end. Some people say it's ok to abort a baby if the woman was raped. Why does the woman who was raped abort that baby? Because she doesn't want it, so why should another woman not be able to? If a woman decides not to let something grow in her body, then she doesn't have to let it be there so other people can be happy... she can do it for any reason that she has. If a mother kills a newborn baby then she should go to jail. She knew that it was coming, she went through the whole pregnacy knowing that this person would come out of her, she didn't try and stop it or anything. She's already been through the whole pregnancy... she has no reason to want to kill the baby anymore.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 11:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 60162
My mother was a horrible mother. I grew up in foster homes and put up with abuse from her and the care givers until I was 18 years old and could finally move out on my own. My mother blamed me for HER mistake all her life and that mistake was Me! Some people should never be parents. this is why I agree with abortion. I would rather a baby die than to go through what I went through. Parents like my mother are just plant insecure and troubled children into the world that usually commit suicide later on anyway. From MY point of view. Abortion is so much more humane. The part of the world out there is very very nasty and abortion is better there.  |
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Date: 8/9/2002 5:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 61848
You have some pretty good points! I kinda agree but i think that if i woman gets pregnate she should have one month to hane an abortion. If she doesnt have an abortion within the first month she must have her baby. Only an Opinion |