Date: 8/7/2002 4:44:00 AM
From Authorid: 46527
I think that the companies do have to bear a part of the responsibility for the obesity being suffered by children but the main responsibility must lie with the parents for allowing their children to eat such foods to an extent that it affects their health.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 40530
It is the parents FAULT, and the commercial are to BLAME! It isn't the company's fault, they need comercial to keep their company running. The kids see them, then go whinning to mommy "Mommy, mommy, mommy, can I have this, can I have this? Please? Please? Oh why? Oh, that is SO not fair! But...but..." then the tantrum. "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" the mommy gives in, buys the food, and the kids eat it, like it, it keeps them quiet, so the mom buys more, the kid gets fatter....it's a horrible cycle.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:47:00 AM
From Authorid: 46527
I can just hear Crystal Peak having that very tantrum.....LOL!!!!!!!! Good job her mommy is not the sort to give in!  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:50:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 18527
Thank you! I totally agree... it is the company's JOB to advertise in order to make money, it isn't their fault that you feed your kid crap...  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 46527
Look at it another way, the commercials that aren't for food are invariably for toys, a lot of them too expensive for the average household to afford, does advertising FORCE the parent to buy them? No! It may make the child WANT them but then the responsible parent will refuse to allow themselves to slip into debt just to afford these wonderful toys. The saddest sight I have seen for a long time was the one I witnessed a few days back. I saw a girl of about 11 years in the local supermarket, she was SO obese that she was red in the face from walking around the supermarket...well, I thought to myself, give her a chance, she may be ill, don't judge her...and then I saw the rest of the family; the mother and 3 brothers were equally fat, in their trolley they had enough junk food to last my kids at least a year! THAT type of 'looking after' children is not looking after them at all, it is condemning them to a lifetime of battling against their weight and taunts from other children as these pool little sould desperately try to fit in. They are unlikely ever to be healthy as they have not been taught the correct diet as children and are therefore unlikely to indulge themselves in whatever foods they fancy as adults.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 40530
LOL! Seriosuly, the companies need to stay up and running, it's the mom's fault for giving in  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 40530
OOOOO dear...you SURVIVED that? Are you SURE no one was hurt?  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 42945
well I blame the parents for buying the food BUT if you could see the ads on tv over here for the junk foods the kids are brainwashed and pressure the parents when grocery shopping. In my household we eat very sensibly as we are gym junkies but as Katrina is only a little girl and has to have some treats in the way of potato chips, lollies etc, she gets these things every now and then and she looks forward to these treats, I cant ever see it happening to stop these types of advertisements going ahead, so its up to the parents to take control over what their kids eat, after all, we are what we eat!!!!!! hugs Zema  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 46527
'pool little sould ' = poor little souls  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:57:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 18527
I can remember in elementary school that most of the kids had twinkies and we had... carrots! LOL  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:58:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 18527
Right Zema... I mean Katrina isn't going to the store on her own to buy chips and candy... and if we treat those food items as a few and far between indulgence hopefully the kid will realize that healthy eating is the best!  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:59:00 AM
From Authorid: 46527
Zema, as children my mother allowed my sister and I to have treats AFTER our meals, and only then if we had eaten all of our food. I think it is indeed important that children are allowed the odd treat as in Katrina's case, but as you say, it is important that these treats are given responsibly.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:59:00 AM
From Authorid: 40530
RED in the FACE from walking around the SUPERMARKET? C'mon, that is not the companies fault at all LSR, it's the parents if they were all that obese  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:01:00 AM
From Authorid: 46527
Precisely what I said Crystal Peak, one look in the shopping trolley was enough to tell anyone who cared to look that this particular child's obesity was the fault of no-one but it's own mother!  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:03:00 AM
From Authorid: 40530
I remeber when I was about 4 or 5, I wanted a biscuit before dinner. She wouldn't let me have one, she said I had to wait untill after dinner, so I snuck one out of the packet then snuck it upstairs. She caught me, and I had to eat all my dinner, and I wasn't allowed one after dinner. I really got told off. My mum did right to discipline me. If only all mothers would do that, we woulsn't have that obese family LSR was talking about  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 42945
yes LSR, of course Katrina asks for these treats as often as she can, and especially when we are shopping, but she also eats good healthy vegies and fruit along with her chicken, meat and fish, so she really knows that healthy eating is so important, but we cant deny them totally of "treats" can we, as you say its up to us to control what they do put into their bodies..hugs Zema  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 46527
Zema, my eldest son was a gymnast before he grew too tall, so he has a really good knowledge of what to eat to stay healthy, the problem is, now he's a teenager (15) he seems to completely disregard what he knows he should eat in favour of what he likes to eat! He is lucky that he has the metabolism to burn off all these unecessary calories, but I do worry for the future! I can only hope that by continually giving him the 'right' foods he will eventually give up on the junk and return to a good diet. I think that boys especially do go through a stage like this in their teen years and it is even more important for parents to be vigilant of what their kids are eating.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 47699
I would have to blame the parents for giving in to the whining. An alcoholic can see a beer commercial on TV and not rush out to buy a six pack. I don't think ads are as influential as they are said to be. As for kids under the age of eight not being able to distinguish between commercials and shows, I say that's hogwash. I certainly could at a much younger age than eight or even six. I know that Mom always made healthy and appetizing meals at home and I never once begged for fast food. Why? Because I was happy with what I had and didn't want or need anything else. I lay every bit of the blame at the parents' doorstep.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:20:00 AM
From Authorid: 44321
I have to say that the parents do not have to buy the food. I think it is not the commercials fault,and I am not swayed by tantrums over I wanna have its LOL now some kids get allowances and hoard up on junk ,but I say most and I say MOST kids today are not very active outside the house and tend to be more over weight than their more active peers.I think sometimes parents stick blinders on and say well its not my fault that jane is heavy its the junk foods fault.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:22:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 18527
I agree Medusa, I think that kind of attitude is a cop-out for poor parenting... now am not talking about people overweight due to a medical condition, just kids who eat too many corn chips or fast food meals because parents can't say NO!  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:22:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 18527
Amen Frank! My mother is a GREAT cook!  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 42945
and another thing I have noticed also with some of the obese kids that live round me is that they dont do any sport, I can just picture them laying on the floor of the living room watching tv, playing the sony or sitting on the computer, but the kids I know that do this, the parents are the same and dont even go for a walk, so I suppose there is not any examples given out here to the kids, so overeating in general whether it be junk foods, sodas or whatever and no physical sport can only lead one way in the future for these kids, and its entirely up to the parents I feel...and on that note I am going to beddy bye so you all have a nice day...hugs Zema xox  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:25:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 18527
nighty-nite Mil... and yeah I agree physical activity is important!  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 44321
A medical conditon, I understand but when they see the kids gorge on junk and then say hmm why is he heavy? just burns me up I am not a thin person myself but I know why I am this way and do not try and pretend that I don't know how it happened  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:30:00 AM
From Authorid: 42945
well just one more LSR, it will be harder for me when Katrina is a teenager, hopefully she will have learnt enough from what I talk to her about the importance of good healthy food and sport, and to Frankenstein I agree with everything you say lil brother as with my mothers good healthy cooking from vegies home grown and our own chickens and lambs we never had takeaway foods, well for one thing we couldnt afford it with 6 kids in the family, but we were filled up with good meals...nighty night...xoxoxo  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:32:00 AM
From Authorid: 40530
My parents sometimes give me fast food, as a treat for being good or something. IT is a food we all enjoy, but if we had it too much we would soon go off it. Junk food is great...but only as a treat. My mom's cooking is sometimes MUCH nicer  |
Date: 8/7/2002 8:07:00 AM
From Authorid: 47539
I am extremely overweight. My parents were too. I grew up on fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, sausage, butter (you get the idea). My son is on the low side of normal for his height. You can count that kids ribs. I try to keep his diet healthy, although it is difficult with a child that doesn't like veggies. We try to limit deserts and candy, but we let him have junk too. I try not to push the "clean your plate" mentality, but if I didn't make him eat his healthy supper, he'd skip right to candy or desert. Parent's are the ones responsible for their kids eating habits and everything else their kids do. Giving in to a tantrum doesn't tame it either - it just proves to the kid that it works.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 8:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 42522
No, it's not the cause for children's obesity. The commercials dont tell the parents to go out and buy it for there kids. I think it is the parents fault.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 10:06:00 AM
From Authorid: 46486
The company that makes junk food is just doing their job and buisness, it's the parents fault for buying it.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 1:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 30477
I think the leading cause for child obesity is fat kids who never get any exercise.  |
Date: 8/7/2002 3:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
i think its the kids fault for taking the food out of the package and putting it in there own mouth  |
Date: 8/7/2002 4:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 55673
Its definetly the parents fault. All kids eat now are starches and sweets unless they have parents who make them eat veggies at a young age. Yes I hated them but couldn't leave the table unless the "booger peas" where eaten. I hated my parents then but realize what they were teaching me when I see overweight children piling on the mashed potatoes and mac and cheese. Can we say greens please. Skeptic Angel  |
Date: 8/7/2002 5:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 38256
This is just as annoying as the guy suing the fast food resturants. I mean really do we live in America or not? It's a parents responsability to make sure their children eat properly and EXCERSIZE. The company wants to make money so of course they're going to make appealing advertisements but that doesn't mean you have to allow your child to be a spoiled brat and let them have whatever they want. I do applaud the fact that someone is finally realizing how much of a problem obesity is.  |
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Date: 8/9/2002 11:01:00 AM
From Authorid: 57718
The companies are in NO WAY responsible. We are adults, we are offered choices. If we CHOOSE something bad, then it is up to us to fix it. If a parent chooses to buy all that crap and make an obese child, then that parent should be questioned. If someone gives you a choice to kill someone or not, are they responsible for you killing a person? NO! YOU ARE! You made that choice, you can suffer over it. If a kid is throwing a temper tantrum over not getting something on a commercial, I find some firmness works very well. "I said no, I meant no and if you want to throw a temper tantrum fine, but prepared for a punishment" If parents would quit being LAZY and take some responsibility for their child's well being, those commercials would mean nothing! |