Date: 8/12/2002 10:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 23610
This one is really a tough one. But...considering all the terrible things that have happened to children even just recently, I believe that I probably would agree to have my child implanted with a chip. I would prefer it if the chip was implanted in a way that we would have the option at any time to have it removed with as little invasive trauma as possible to the child, when we felt ready to do so. It's a sad statement of our society today....but yes, I think I would agree to it.  |
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Date: 8/12/2002 10:43:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 61384
thank you. I think I will too. I do not really trust the government.(I feel un comfortsale even saying that), but I would like my children trackable, if they disappear. |
Date: 8/12/2002 10:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 48989
i would never have my child implanted. its like Big Brother, why would u want someone to know your every move and your whereabouts. NO THANK YOU  |
Date: 8/12/2002 10:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 3321
No. Never. I will never allow anyone to put a tracking device inside me or a child.  |
Date: 8/12/2002 10:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 3321
The amount of kidnappings are virtually the same as they have been every year. The difference? More MEDIA coverage, invoking fear in parents, and feeding into the government plot to put tracking devices in everyone.  |
Date: 8/12/2002 11:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
I agree with Perspehone...if I had kids I think I'd protect them with a large shotgun instead.  |
Date: 8/12/2002 11:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 52419
I wouldn't because I believe it might be the mark of the beast. After they started putting them in children, they would say "Hey, let's put these in everyone!" I dunno. Mickle  |
Date: 8/13/2002 12:04:00 AM
From Authorid: 23610
One of the points that bothers me is that it is human nature to think that kidnappings and murders will not happen to you or your loved ones. I never want to be in the position of the parents that I have seen on T.V. begging for the return of their children. I do not want Big Brother to be able to track my children's every move either....but hopefully there could be some type of "happy medium" sought where either only certain people had access to the tracking device or it would only be activated in certain cases. I know that the parents of children like Samantha Runion and Elizabeth Smart probably believed that the chances of their children being abducted were next to nothing....I would never want to go through what they must be going through, especially if there were something that could help in that type of situation....without being so intrusive as to give up all one's rights and privacy.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 12:30:00 AM
From Authorid: 22080
i wont let anyone implant nothing in me and it isnt that there are more kidnappings this year its that its happening more and more to upper class so they get there pity pleads on the news while the lower class gets stuck searching on there own  |
Date: 8/13/2002 12:40:00 AM
From Authorid: 57653
This very thought went through my head when all this started happening. At first I was all for it, but after some of the postings I have seen on this site I'm not as sure. While it sounds good to say they would be taken out...it wouldn't happen. Like Mickle said...they would want to put them in everyone. While I have nothing to hide and I really don't care if the goverment knows where I am...That would lead to the kind of society I dread. So I think the happy medium is the way to go. Tracking devices that can be given to the child to carry on them. We would just have to work hard to make them hard to spot. Hair ties, barrettes, toys, earrings, any kinda of jewelry...this list goes on (this technology is already available through private businesses). Yes the kidnapper could try and figure out which item might contain the tracker....But hopefully won't want to take the time or we could track them down before that. In the end all I would care about is the safety of my child. There is nothing worse in this world then harming a child in any way. ~SilverFire  |
Date: 8/13/2002 4:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 42792
I would agree to a piece of jewelery or some other typoe of removable apparatus but implanted into their body, no. I wouldn't only worry about gov. control but also about the effect that would have on their bodies  |
Date: 8/13/2002 5:10:00 AM
From Authorid: 10146
Nope! Never!!  |
Date: 8/13/2002 5:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 46005
i would agree to it. I think it would be a wonderful way to protect our children. I think it should be traceable only through the parents though.... like through a computer, or a hand held divice, not the goverment. Now if the child is kidnapped, i think the device should then be passed on to them, so they can locate the child.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 8:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 277
No, I would not have my kids implanted. I watch my children. Danielle Van Damme was taken from her bedroom because her parents were allowing strangers in their home, they were swingers. It was their fault she was taken. They didn't even check on their kids after their home alarm system went off. I would not be the least bit surprised if they knew about her death. Microchip my kid? No way.....That's for the lazy people who don't think about consequences for not watching their kids.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 8:41:00 AM
From Authorid: 23610
Actually, I don't think the parents of Polly Klaas or Elizabeth Smart could be considered lazy for believing that their children were safe in their homes. To believe that children are abducted because their parents are lazy is a sweeping and broad generalization.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 8:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 38474
Nope, no microchip for me or my kid. The cons far outway the pros in my opinion. I would never do it or allow my child to be implanted.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 8:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 57726
Uhhh...No.Nononono... -Rope Shrine Maiden-  |
Date: 8/13/2002 9:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 277
LadyNyx, It is lazy when parents don't check on their children in the middle of the night when a burglar alarm goes off. Damon Van Damme, got up, shut an open door and went back to sleep. Smart's father left his garage door open because he was too lazy to see why it wasn't shutting automatically. There was something blocking the censor and he didn't bother to check why it didn't shut until the next day when his daughter was gone. That's lazy. He said the kidnapper could have entered through the garage and got into the house. L-A-Z-Y..Lazy! Maybe not all of them are lazy, but the examples I gave above clearly prove that some of them are. Also, rich people would probably be the only ones who would be able to afford the chip anyway. Most rich people have nannies. WHy? Lazy...maybe busy, but I'll go with lazy. Someone else can raise the kid, get a nanny, get a chip...we cool, because we have the money.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 11:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 23610
I understand what you are trying to say, Hawk. I am saying that not all parents of abducted children are lazy.  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 11:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 54196
Some of you are out of your MINDS. You'll get LoJack for your car, cauz GOD FORBID that gets stolen. Fifteen minutes later, you get your car back. But your KID? OH NO! Ask the Smart parents if they could do it all over, would they put a chip in? Are you that caught up in your religion that you would forsake your CHILDREN'S safety just to circumvent a supposed prophecy from thousands of years ago? God won't let them get molested and murdered, right? You TERRIFY me. Remind me not to let my devil children stay over your house. The best part is the most vocal opponents of this idea are probably the abductors THEMSELVES. |
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Date: 8/13/2002 11:39:00 AM
From Authorid: 54196
Hawk, your predjudices betray you. If the Smarts were having a churchgroup session and someone abducted their daughter, I doubt you'd be so judgemental. |
Date: 8/13/2002 12:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 3321
54196, it has nothing to do with religion. It's all to do with what the government has proven they do in the past. You allow them one foot in your door and next thing you know, you're kicked out of your house. That is their way. It is not forsaking your children's safety to not get a microchip that has never existed before the 80s put in them. The only reason people are more scared now is that the media is covering this more now. And also, I agree, because more wealthy than poor children are being abducted. The media loves to cover the people with money...but what about the two Chicago girls who were abducted over a year ago? I don't see CNN mentioning those poverty level South side of Chicago black children? Why not? They deserve to be found just as much as Elizabeth Smart or any other child.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 12:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 277
Lady, I'm just saying it's not just a sweeping and broad generalization. In a lot of cases it is true. But, not "all" are lazy.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 12:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 277
54196, I have stated nothing but facts about the Smart family. How is that being judgemental? If the Smarts were having a church group session and someone abducted their daughter then they should have been keeping an eye on her. It's not very likely someone would take their kid from a large function with a lot of people around. There would be more witnesses.  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 2:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 54196
Oh, Hawk, crash and burn. You "stated nothing but facts"? Hmm...lets see..."It was their fault she was taken." That has got to be one of the ugliest accusations I can imagine. It was the person who TOOK her's fault she was taken. That's like saying women who get raped asked for it. Wow. |
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Date: 8/13/2002 2:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 54196
Persephone, for most of the people who will be against this, it WILL be for religious purposes. Who ever said the "government" is going to implant chips? You can get one RIGHT NOW that could be tracked like a GPS. I would feel INFINITELY safer if my child had some form of device that we could locate them MINUTES after we realized they were missing. You're not forsaking your kids by not doing this, true. But you're letting conspiracy theories interfere with making sound judgements concerning your children's SAFETY. Are you that afraid of Big Brother? |
Date: 8/13/2002 3:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 277
54196, The father of the Smart girl stated that he thought it was his fault because he never checked to see why the garage door wouldn't shut. He left it open all night long.  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 3:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 54196
Well, let me just state that I'm Jesus Christ for the record. Speaking words doesn't magically make them true. If it's his fault, then charge him. That's just typical "I feel guilty" speak. |
Date: 8/13/2002 5:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 27270
If this was available, I would do it. I am much more concerned about my childs safety than I am paranoid about the govt. My daughter was missing once for 7 hours! Do you have any idea what a horrific, excrutiating period of time that is when you don't know if your baby is dead or alive? Did you know, that in your mind at least, 7 hours is plenty of time to plan a funeral, because by then you are just convinced that the worst is true? I would do this in a heart beat if it were available and the terms were "decent", like removal at option, etc. I care more about my child than I do about my privacy  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 27270
For those of you that are concerned, what makes you think that these sort of "chips" are not already in place (if you're really that worried about the government?)...In your drivers license, for example. Is that not something most people carry everywhere?  |
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Date: 8/13/2002 6:22:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 61384
this post was frighteningly approprate for me today. Less than 3 miles from my home, in the early morning hours, a man broke into the home of a woman & her 14-year old daughter. The daughter fought like crazy, and the man escaped by shattering a sliding glass door & running away. The girl was not raped, or worse. This happened in a very nice, very clean neighborhood. They have not caught the man, despite the blood indicating he was cut badly. I think it is wrong, to allow religious beliefs to interfer with protecting your child. And to believe the very people who implant children ARE the kidnappers is paranoid thinking, in my opinion. |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 23610
I understand both sides to this debate. Government has proven to us time and time again that if we give up a few of our rights then we find even more taken away....so they have made it difficult for us to trust them. But at the same time, who wouldn't do whatever they could to keep their children safe? Something definitely needs to be done...the question is what? It's a difficult question. I respect anyone's feelings regarding both sides of this issue. I only say that for myself, if something like implanting a chip to locate missing children were to be adopted, I would hope it would be something that could maintain the dignity and rights of all people involved. How they would do that I don't know yet....but it is so terribly sad to hear of even one case of child abduction....and so sad that we have been put in this situation to even have to consider such a thing as implantation.  |
Date: 8/13/2002 6:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 56369
Noway I would put any kind of tracking device on my Kid, if I had one. Who knows what kinda sicko could get hold of this knowledge. It may seem like a good idea, but if the kidnappings are on decline, Rejoice that fact instead of planning for maybes. Thankgod I live in australia.. lol thast all I can say -honeysoul  |
Date: 8/14/2002 12:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 3321
54196, give me good reason not to fear the government would do precisely what I suspect? The chip is FDA approved, it has been implanted in entire families, it has been put in adults. In combination with class discussion within my major and reading such magazines as Popular Science and Discover, and various internet sites, it will be a matter of time before they require it. That's not a religious ideal-that's common sense. Our government evolves their "security" over time, and it makes sense that they would do this.  |
Date: 8/14/2002 11:15:00 AM
From Authorid: 61587
NO..i would keep tabs on them myself
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Date: 8/14/2002 11:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 54196
Persephone, this is not the type of technology that the government is going to be able to force on us, that's fairly obvious by reading about half of these posts. On the other hand, personal use of this technology, like knowing your kid is sneaking out of their room at night or not going to school during the day, would be extremely useful and in case of an emergency, information could be relayed to the police, without the government ever needing to do or know anything. Honestly, every time you relinquish some responsibilities to technology, the possibility of abuse is a risk. But considering the idea of the government tracking me(which it could do with ease anytime it wants) vs. the idea of my child being brutally attacked or killed, both are so unlikely that I'd take chances with Big Bro in a second. It even sounds more warm and fuzzy than psychotic pedo-rapist-homocial maniac. |
Date: 8/14/2002 7:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 5886
Make your kids take Karate Lessons, so they can defend themselves efficiently if they're attacked. We put tracking devices on prisoners to monitor them, why do our kids deserve the same treatment? Besides, I've heard alot about Cell phone radiation causing cancer. Wouldn't an implant that transmits or recieves signals give off simular radiation? It would be alot worse since it's in direct contact with tissue.  |
Date: 8/15/2002 5:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 27270
Funny, we jump on the band wagon to sign up for "automated bill pay" via the internet, we sign up for "preferred customer" shopping cards, etc. all of which allow us to be "tracked" and exposed, yet we shudder to think how the same type of modern convenience might be a "spy tool" when it comes to our kids. Do most of you have cell phones? Do you know that very soon they will ALL BE INSTALLED WITH GPS? GPS is a tracking/locating method, I believe it stands for Global Positioning System (or Satellite)-and yes, the govt. says it's supposedly so that the 911 operators can locate an emergency call, etc. and even if it's truly designed to track us at their convenience, sometimes you have to "pick the lesser of two evils".....our kids are more important in my opinion and I don't know about everyone else, but I'd give my life for my child, so parting with my privacy is a small sacrifice for her safety.  |
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Date: 8/18/2002 9:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 54071
oh yeah thats a great idea. micro chips. so we can be monitored by the COMMIE governmetn. its also the mark of the beast if you knwo what that it.... |
Date: 8/19/2002 3:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 10146
I do not have any preffered customer shopping cards, I do not have automated bill pay, and I do not Own a cell phone. I surely am not gonna take a microchip, under my skin.There are not anymore kids being kiddnaped this year than last year. Presently they are giving breaking news stories about every child everywhere, who is getting kidnaped, murdered etc. This is all just a National promotion advertisment attempt to "PUSH" the digital Angel GPS traking devices. And it looks like their Advertisement is working too. There are not any more kids being kiddnaped today than any previous year! The Government has just simply instructed all news stations to report Any and All kiddnapping events, just so they can Push the GPS tracking devices. First it is a Band on the Wrist,or a toy doll, to bait an lure the voluntarys, then just like they worked the Social Security Cards, it will become Mandatory, and the Chip, will be fully implemented. I remember when Social Security cards where Voluntary, Then they were required at the time the person started the Work feild, then they became reqired at birth. All in my Life time. This digital angel thing is gonna revolutionalize the world in just a few short years if not, in a few months. It is gonna be the answer to all the terrorist problems. Or so they will say, with convincing, and inticing words. and the News? Remember, a picture says more than a thousand words!  |