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Different Cultures

  Author:  19875  Category:(Debate) Created:(8/23/2002 6:25:00 PM)
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I was thinking today about different cultures around the world. These thoughts were brought on by reading a book about Geisha. It’s really good book and it talks about how Japanese culture was before white people showed up and screwed it all over.

The ideals that the old Japanese cultures had worked. Their customs, while not what is considered ‘right’ by today’s Anglo dominated standards, were fine just the way they were.

Then white people showed up and all that changed.

They began forcing the Japanese government to change laws that they’d had for centuries. The main focus of the book is on the Geisha, and when the Anglo’s showed up (I keep referring to them as Anglo’s because I can’t remember if it was the Russians or the Americans who showed up first, though I think it was the Americans) they believed this high society of entertaining women was an awful way for women to live.

Because of their standards they changed a lot of things.

Prostitutes were made illegal, while they’d always been legal before. Thus thousands of women were out of a job and were forced to move underground.

The idea of Danna became unacceptable, and thus many Geisha began losing their funding.

Geisha’s began getting replaced by Bar Girls and strippers (I find it a bit odd that the Americans outlawed prostitutes but introduced strippers to the Japanese).

The long-held traditions and honor of the Japanese and the Geisha’s was pretty much wiped out, and now the Japanese, while still more honorable then your average Earthling, have had their standards dragged through the mud.

Now, the Debate is: Should other cultures be left alone, and not be forced to change because of what other cultures may think of their ways?

I say yes, it’s not up to us to change people.

Now, what do you think?

(For more information on the Geisha, read the book. It's called 'Geisha'. Though I can't remeber the name of the author right now)

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Date: 8/23/2002 6:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 25828    interesting..i don't care to debate it but thanks for the info..i love learning about other cultures. good post 8-)  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 25828    i will say this, if we all had the honor system of the japanese, we'd be in better shape as whole all over the world.  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:29:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19875    I just looked it up and Russia was there first, but it was the Americans who forced their ideals onto the Japanese.  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 52679    well they should be left alone unless they are doing harm to life.......and america couldnt' have been the first to japan, it had to be russia  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:30:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19875    Heather, I completely agree with you ^_^  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 52679    not to sound predictable but all of the world has really gone to hell, i'm hoping it will do a full circle and the burns will become a new skin  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 55376    If they wanted to be left alone they should not have invaded China,the Phillipines,Southeast Asia and bombed Pearl Harbor. Ask Chinese or Filipinos if Japan should have been "left alone".Why did they not leave other cultures alone? Og
Date: 8/23/2002 6:33:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19875    Heres hoping, Dark Fire  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 25828    and in reference to Og's comment, i meant the personal honor system, cause yeah, they're sneaky somethin's when it comes to world politics 8-P  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:37:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19875    You see, Og, when the invaded all those other countries they took their land and killed anyone who got in the way. They didn't force their ideals over the general population while they were at it.  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:38:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19875    They*** (not the)  
Date: 8/23/2002 6:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    i think every culture should be left alone.. if you have ever watched anna and the king... they find the king of siam barbaric in his customs and his way of life but anna lives under thier culture and teaches them her culture... and he is very stuck in his way but feels he has to change to please people who call his barbaric... every country has the right in thier cultures.. and no one should feel they have to change  
Date: 8/23/2002 7:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 51173    Author, In India when the British ruled there, a man died and was prepared for funeral. They gathered wood for the funeral pyre, layed flowers around the man's body, and tied his wife down underneath his body to be burned. A British soldier saw what was happening, and asked a man in the crowd what they were doing. A Hindu priest told the British soldier "It is the custom of our people to burn the wife with the husband." To which the British soldier replied "And it is the custom of my people to hang people who burn women alive." -- Western culture is FAR from perfect, but it is an improvement over any other culture on Earth. There are good things and bad things in any culture, but in the West the good things outweigh the bad. The fact that you are even able to post this story is proof of that - anywhere else, if you had questioned authority like this you would be killed. No trial. While it is good to point out where we in the West can improve, we ALL would do well to count our blessings for being here. Tom  
Date: 8/24/2002 12:38:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    anglos seem to drag down all cultures with there "morals" its disghusting they killed off the native american cultures the hawaiian culture and many other cultures including alot of african cultures and introducing alcohol made them drag it down further and about prostitutes its legal to sell and legal to have sex but its illegal to sell sex whats wrong with making a guy thats a social outcast happy maybe it scares them i dunno but george carlin did a skit on it  
Date: 8/24/2002 12:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    and up until WWII the japanese were an isolated country germany filled there heads with crap of "you should own asia" and screwed it all up and tom that was there culture if it was that means no one thought anything of it including the women and the british have no room to talk with burning women I.E. the witches burned at the steak sounds kinda hypocritical  
Date: 8/24/2002 8:23:00 AM  From Authorid: 55376    They did not "kill everyone" and leave their cultures alone. Og
Date: 8/24/2002 9:18:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 19875    Tom, to the British culture, yes it was wrong to burn that woman. But that woman probably knew that she was going to burned, and if she wasn't she would probaby think that she was going to be going to whatever the Hindu's believe 'Hell' is. To them it was fine, it was expected, it was their way. And being as it was their way it shouldn't have to get changed for the sake of out-siders. And if I'd been raised in a culture that'd been taken over by the Anglo's then they'd probably agree with me. And do you really know enough about all the cultures around the world to say that the Anglo way is the best? Because as far as I know, it's not.  
Date: 8/24/2002 9:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 55376    Yes let's barbeque women, how do we know it is wrong? Og
Date: 8/25/2002 12:16:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    og i hear women are really bitter at a certain time of the month but other than that if you get them when there fresh they taste good with ketchup...ok im joking dont kill me  
Date: 8/25/2002 4:19:00 AM  From Authorid: 56990    Yes cultures should be left alone.....Darsya I agree with you,wat seems right for a group of ppl might not seem right for others.Example some tribes in Africa are cannibals.I know it's gross and so inhuman but thats thier tradition.Also the British ways are not always right,I mean look at thier morals little ppl have any!!I had a British teacher once he told us that we are lucky why ?Because we can trust our friends,cuz in thier country no one trusts another.If u met a long life friend once he will just ignore u and thats normal.We opened our mouths when he told us this.  
Date: 8/25/2002 10:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 55376    Sorry inferior cultures are also subject to natural selection, those that choose to abuse women are doomed, and we should speed up the process. Og

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