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NUDITY If its so bad, then why is it SO common?*DizzyME*

  Author:  9130  Category:(Debate) Created:(9/30/2002 6:56:00 PM)
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Okay. The topic is nudity. I can see the admins cringe at the site of the word... "is it appropriate for the site?" they ask themselves... And to them I say this:

Nudity is always something people think should be kept private or behind closed doors. These people never stop to think that we are all born naked and that it is not a bad thing...as long as it is not public nudity in a sexual manner.

No federal US federal law that either allows or prohibits nudity. The legality of various forms of undress is currently left up to the individual states and localities to decide. Nudity is generally allowed in national parks, unless local laws have overriding jurisdiction.

The Pope, while still a Polish Cardinal wrote: "Nakedness itself is not immodest... Immodesty is present only when nakedness plays a negative role with regard to the value of the person, when its aim is to arouse concupiscence, as a result of which the person is put in the position of an object for enjoyment."

SO we see that nudity is not illegal and it is not a sin. SO why all the fuss? Why is it so wrong?

There was a debate here a few monthes ago about whether breastfeeding in public should be allowed. My question is "why on earth SHOULDN'T it be allowed?" it is a natural thing for a mother to feed her child, what is wrong with her exposing her breast in a non-sexual manner in order to give nurishment to her offspring?

I thought of this debate after making a joke about nudity on my debate about cross-dressing. I looked into the topic and there is a LOT of interesting information. DId you know that there is NO WHERE in the bible where it condemns public nudity? Now I don't know if I belive everything in the bible but that was suprising to me to see that.

BUT then there is the other side of this debate. DO television shows have a right to show nudity? I have recently began watching a new show on FOX. It comes on at 8:00 at night, and the opening of the show and the commercial preview of the show both contain a shot of the main characters naked bottom. Now is that really nessesary? Do you really want your kids to be watching a show and all of a sudden theres a commercial for a new show-- and it shows a shot of the mans behind? The show is not in any way sexual, and neither is the clip that they show-- but why has some types of nudity become acceptable to show on network television?

It just seems so odd that nudity is thought of as sort of a taboo, yet it is becoming more common to see more and more of it on TV... and yet there is still the ongoing debate about whether or not a woman should breastfeed in public...isn't that interesting?

So: Is nudity a good thing or a bad thing? Debate anything you have read above or throw in your own two cents...

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Date: 9/30/2002 7:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 59286    You said it all. There is nothing wrong with nudity as long as it is not in a sexual manner. Regina  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:05:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    How would you feel to be walking down the road at a national park with your kids only to find that there was a person walking around naked? It IS legal... what would you do?  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    i think the commercial should reflect the show.. so if there is no nudity in the show why need it in the commercial.. nudity is a very taboo thing.. i think men make more out of nudity then what it really is i find nothing wrong with nudity as long as it's not in a sexual matter and not thrown infront of me..  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 49498    hey man, born naked. I see nothing wrong with it, although im not going to go walking around naked or anything.  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:08:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    MMan-- me neither...LOL But you could if ya wanted to... in most places anyways... YOu DO have that right.   
Date: 9/30/2002 7:08:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    I think that by making nudity SO sexual most of the time, it adds to the taboo of it  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 42792    being naked in public makes it sexual and anyone who does it knows that. If I saw a nude person galavanting about a national park I would exercise my right to tell them off. There are many people I would end up vomiting over if I had to see naked. Some people should be born with clothes on  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    except in private businesses they don't like serving naked people*L* even goverment based businesses  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 13897    well i mean, i dont think anything is wrong with nudity at all...it's just not common for us to see full naked stranger in the middle of a park.. i would be startled perhaps, just because it doesn't happen very often. and oh GOD.. i dont think anything is wrong for a woman to breastfeed. she's not screaming around, exposing herself. usually someone would not even notice it. besides, the baby is usually in the way of the breast so not much is seen anyways. great post, dizzy  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:14:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    NKA-- to some people being naked is a way of life...and it isn't always sexual to them...  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 59286    Well, nudity is a part of life in other countries, why does the USA have to make it taboo?If someone was walking around naked in a national park I think I would be shocked, but I would get over it. Regina  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 19927    men seeing naked women raises their testosterone(sp) levels which could lead to over sexual activity. Nudity is NOT something to do in public.  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:21:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    Regina-- I think its because the U.S. is obsessed with sex...lol  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 10722    Depends.. There's some people that just shouldn't be seen nude, cause sometimes someones looks could induce vomiting. =)  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 47113    LMAO @ NKA...you said it girl....we also live in an unstable society...notice how many ppl are nutso these days...lol..more rapes, child molesting...sexual crimes...face it, we just live in an unfunctional society...lol...must be something in our water or pollution...no i don't see anything wrong with a naked body and iam by no means ashamed of mine, but i guess i'm just alittle old fashioned, i'd rather that man of my life see me naked first...i do believe there is one thing to be said about leaving SOMETHING to the imagination...lol..i know, these days thats hard to do being our television is soo corrupt....good post though...thanks  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 42792    yeah bu their way of life won't stop perverts from living theirs... besides it is sexual, regardless of what they say unless they are clothesphobics...seriously, it is just for attention. In third world countries it may be acceptable but not here  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:33:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    Angelinesheart-- it is sad that there are so many perverts out there that we have to cover up what God gave us...  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 16845    ya know.....those who live in the african countries who prance around nude have no problems with it....i think if a country or a society starts off that way fine. I think that if they did not start off as a 'nudist' society it could cause problems.....in the form of sexual abuse etc...  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 51407    It is weird that we were born naked and growing up we think of it as a bad thing. Cavemen/Women in the past were pretty much naked! So why is it that now its wrong to be naked in public? I myself am not very comfortable with nudity in front of other people (dressing rooms, bathroom, etc). But it shouldn't be 'not allowed'. Maybe I don't like being naked in public, but that doesn't mean other people don't have the right to do it. I think you said it all. There really isn't anything wrong with nudity, and if you're uncomfortable with it, then don't get in situations where you will be exposed to it. Great post! Luv,  
Date: 9/30/2002 7:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 47113    i know, it really is sad...but thats our unfunctional society...it all depends on the psychos out there...but i wouldn't risk it...lol...i kind of enjoy breathing...lol  
Date: 9/30/2002 9:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 15033    I think there is a very good reason we MUST hide our bodies... although bodies are being flaunted more and more nowdays. The reason is: men exist. They have a thing called testosterone. It makes them think about sex every 2 seconds. Now, if nudity was everywhere, I think men would have an extremely hard time (no pun intended) concentrating on work. It's getting worse on society as a whole with all the open nudity. More sexually transmitted diseases, more unwanted children, more anorexics and bulemics trying to stay sexy enough to flaunt their stuff. Cover it up to keep it sane I say...lol!!  
Date: 9/30/2002 9:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 19092    Yea Becky, and look what's happened to those tits from not wearing any bras. I think over the "long run", some clothings good...  
Date: 9/30/2002 10:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 54987    Ooooh King Caspian how did you get away with a naughty word? Well I once went to a nudist campground, but everyone was over 65. When I went in there I was given a sheet of activities. One of them was nude limbo dancing. My mind boggled. I didn't stay long. You're right King Caspian ... about gravity.  
Date: 9/30/2002 10:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    Hmmm...Thunderhead honey, ya know I love ya, but I really gotta challenge that...ya see, yep, I'm a man...and I have testosterone...but no way do I walk around all drooly and pervy like I can't control my own *deleted word starting with 'p' and ending in 's'* We men are NOT animals...we do have self control. Yes, testosterone can make that control harder to achieve, but achieve it we can. To think we can't is to belittle ALL men, of which of course I am one. And another thing...women look and stare too...so it ain't just a male thing. Peace,  
Date: 10/1/2002 6:57:00 AM  From Authorid: 20104    I see nothing worng with it. United States is the only place where they treat nudity as being bad. Europe has nudity on tv and magazines. They have nude beaches. I went to the Bahamas for my 21st b-day and the first thing I did when I got to the beach was take it all off. I liked the nude beach. Even though my behind was burnt so bad I couldnt sit on it for a couple days. I dont see what the big deal is about nudity.  
Date: 10/1/2002 7:06:00 AM  From Authorid: 25828    nudity would be okay if ugly people didn't practice it 8-P  
Date: 10/1/2002 10:07:00 AM  From Authorid: 18527    ACTUALLY Dizzy :P Exodus 206 'And do not go up to my altar on steps, lest your nakedness be exposed on it.'
  
Date: 10/1/2002 10:08:00 AM  From Authorid: 18527    (they didn't wear undies in those days and when they went up ladders or steps well... you could see a lot)  
Date: 10/1/2002 4:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 34814    I walk around nude all the time....Gotta buy land hehe  
Date: 10/1/2002 4:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    i dont believe that public nudity is bad if that makes them happy then go ahead you can always look away its called self censorship and on tv its the same way now for kids seeing a "naked bottom" EVERYONE HAS A BUTT come on people everyone has one big woop i mean its not full shots of the AHEM "privates" its just a butt big woopti freakin do and if a kid dont know what a butt is they have serious issues or there from another planet  
Date: 10/1/2002 4:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    and also man kind makes it taboo i mean look at secluded tribes in south america that have lived centuries in the "full monty" they seem to have no problems with it being sexual i know what did it PURITANS there evil in my opinion i mean there the ones that think women should only show there hands and face other things are sexual even ankles i mean come on its an ankle  
Date: 10/1/2002 4:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    agent smith is right women are just as bad ever watch talk shows? or be with a friend of yours thats female? there would be attractive women pretty much half naked and the girls are like "thats sick if i saw a guy like that id think the same" and when a musculare "attractive" guy comes out with his shirt off they woop and holler 10 times as bad i mean MAKE IT GO BOTH WAYS PEOPLE im tired of my sex being ridiculed and yes i can control myself and im only 15 think of that one i learned control a long time ago actually around 13 i mean its a necessity you cant be a ragin hormone your whole life  
Date: 10/1/2002 7:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 15033    I've not heard of a woman raping a man honey....that is the difference. I wasn't saying they are all like that. But a various times, each and every one of them would eventually have some difficulty hiding some private thoughts if you know what I mean. Men are Notsaints either. Peace.  
Date: 10/1/2002 9:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 24732    I don't know. But I don't think it would be very sanitary. Because if a naked person sat down on a park bench germs could be passed way easier to the next person who sat there. Even if the "shame" were taken away most people would still wear clothes so that they could prove how much more money they had then the next person.  
Date: 10/1/2002 11:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 15033    SO true Alien!! I forgot about those two things...ewww, and yeah, where would all the "have's" go to shop so they could out do the "have not's" then.  
Date: 10/2/2002 4:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 21867    You have not heard of a woman raping a man honey??? Haven't you?? Is that perhaps due to the belief that a man can't be 'raped' unless he is 'ready' therefore presumed willing? Okay...just to you know now...and I'm pretty sure I've shared this with you...but yes, I was raped as a boy, for a number of years, by a woman.  
Date: 10/2/2002 4:03:00 AM  From Authorid: 21867    ...so now you know at least one...and I actually know of many other boys and men who have experienced the same hurt and pain, yet we generally choose to remain silent about it due to that very belief..  
Date: 10/2/2002 7:27:00 AM  From Authorid: 12835    Dizzy, I have a question. (psst are you naked now ? )....  
Date: 10/2/2002 2:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 19092    LOL@Pete...Dizzy might not be, but I am...  
Date: 10/2/2002 2:58:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    Kethria-- I have some info about the biblical stuff to post later, I'm in a hurry right now   
Date: 10/2/2002 6:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 27270    This is interesting because here's what I struggle with. Nudity itself is not bad (in my opinion) even for children to be exposed to. It's natural, as we were all born naked and nudity is a part of life. You can't wear clothes all the time! People engaging in graphic intercouse (while nude of course) is a little different, as it might expose young children to situations that a parent might not feel is appropriate (at least this parent). But my daughter will cover her eyes (she is 7) when she sees people kissing or about to "make love" on TV, yet she has no qualms about watching a knock down, drag out fight or shooting match where people kill each other violently. In my house, nudity and love scenes (we're NOT talking porn or graphic sex here, okay) are MUCH more acceptable than violent television, however at her Dad's, he will tell her to cover her eyes when Eric & Donna kiss (That 70's Show), yet turn around and let her watch Blade II.....go figure. I don't feel that nudity itself is bad, and I think that the shame that is often associated w/ "nudity" (in homes where it is not acceptable or allowed) causes a lot of insecurity and self consciousness in people. It would help it the "naked people" on TV weren't always so perfect, but that might be a whole different debate!  
Date: 10/2/2002 8:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    good point thumbelina
  
Date: 10/6/2002 10:26:00 AM  From Authorid: 61188    When i first saw the title of your post, I was thinking I was probably going to say something like 'Well, people like to do what they know they really shouldn't', but then i read your WHOLE post, and you have some very very good points and arguements! Congratulations! You've won me over with your stong argument!!  
Date: 10/6/2002 10:26:00 AM  From Authorid: 61188    ***STRONG*** typo  
Date: 10/6/2002 11:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 50435    I'm naked right now. Is that so wrong? LMAO!!! ...  
Date: 10/26/2002 12:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 35060    I agree with you about breat-feeding in public, there's nothing wrong with that. But I beleive people should be more discreet, nudity in public should be avoided. As for naturism, ugh! Anyway I live in the UK where it's far to cold for naturism, especially if your a guy!!!
Date: 7/8/2007 6:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 30093    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ahahhahahahahaha hahahahah ahaha  

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