Date: 11/2/2002 5:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 33925
If the picture was sent through their own personal computer, then the school has NO say in what she sends or receives..Like you said, it was not child porn..Teachers have a right to a PRIVATE life just like anyone else..as long as what they are doing does not affect their ability as a teacher.  |
Date: 11/2/2002 5:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
what a teacher does on it's own time is up to the teacher...if they did it on teh school e-mail addy maybe there is cause for alarm or if they were looking at it at school the teacher should be repremanded! and watched closer... BUT if the teacher likes to look at erotica in thier own time they have the right as any other human ON THIER OWN TIME....  |
Date: 11/2/2002 5:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 57579
I agree with you. I dont see what a big deal it is. It probably happens at every school anyway. As long as it's not child porography and they dont pass it on to the students it should be fine. The picture has nothing to do with the teacher's teaching skills, unless there's some sort of brain sucking, personlaity changing, subliminal message in it...I highly doubt that so yes he/she should still be able to teach. Hope I didnt confuse you. ~Skaterlover~  |
Date: 11/2/2002 5:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 50864
I agree with you as long as it was not done on school computers, school building or working hours. It is a personal matter jst as if they were secartaries, housekeepers nurses, clerks or what ever a matter between two adult coworkers no more no less maybe in bad taste or bad judgement but not ilegal  |
Date: 11/2/2002 5:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 40530
Lady Luck has said it all  |
Date: 11/2/2002 5:43:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
I don't know maybe it's just me but I don't even have a problem with it if it was sent through the school e-mail system. As long as he/she was reading it on her own time, such as her break or before or after school and none of the kids were gawking over their shoulder, I could care less what server it was sent or received from...LOL  |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:44:00 PM ( Admin-JGB )
Depends on wether it was the school's computer system, or if it was at home... if it were through the schools computer, well duhhh do you really want someone that stupid (IE MANY RULES about this sort of thing in every school district) teaching your children?? The content doesn't bother me as long as it is not children, as much as the obvious disregard for rules... |
Date: 11/2/2002 5:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
I agree with you... I think as long as the teacher wasn't harrassing the other teacher...then there is no reason to fire him/her  |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:46:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
I know that people in my husband's office send around dirty jokes and pictures in e-mails all the time. I don't see the big deal in the situation at all. Most people in their lifetime that have spent any kind of significant amount of time on a computer have sent or received something dirty or perverted in their e-mail, whether solicited or unsolicited. I just don't see the point in making a big deal about it... |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
i don't think hte teacher should lose thier job if it was sent over a school computer system i think the teacher should be repremanded.. basically told that the material is inapropriate to be looked at on school ground and to be send around on a work computer... heck with what i see in students lockers now a days.. it's nothing short then porn they hang up! |
Date: 11/2/2002 5:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 47699
I agree with you. If it was simply a matter of one teacher sending it to another teacher, it's none of anybody's business. If the recipient was offended by the email, they should have simply told that to the sender and that should be the end of it.  |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:51:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Junga I don't even care if it was sent through the school e-mails on their server and I probably wouldn't view it as a deliberate violation of rules. I know that I have sat here at my house and gotten a funny joke or a nice poem about something and then forwarded it to my friends of course some have been dirty, It has NEVER even occured to me that some of them are accessing their computers through work and could possibly get into trouble for it. I don't know the legistics of the situation.....I just know that it was pornographic in nature and it was sent to another teacher from one of the other teachers. I don't know maybe it's just me but I can't see it being a situation of malice, obviously if that was the case the teacher would have been suspended or let go. It was most likely one of those hey I found this to be funny and without even thinking about it just sending it out. |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:51:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Midnightly thank you.....you said what I was trying to a whole lot better than I did...LOL |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 33925
My question is...How was this even brought out?? I mean..How did the "public" find out about it?? |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:53:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
I don't know, I think it just bothers me that people seem to think that they can dictate personal aspects of another persons lives just because of an occupation that they hold. I could care less what a teacher does on their own time as long as it's not involving their students.. |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
for some reason this reminds me of that drew Cary Eppisode where he hangs up a picture of the catipillar ontop of the french fry and an employee found it insulting in some sence and filed a complaint and tried to get it taken down or sued over the picture.. |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
something happened at my mom's school. A teacher donated his old computer to the school, and didn't reformat the harddrive and apparently had quite the collection of porn on it... he wasn't reprimanded though... just laughed at |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:55:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Lady Luck your guess is as good as mine...LOL...I was rather shocked to see it in that section of the mewspaper myself.....so its either a friend of a friend that is on the inside with someone that teaches there because we never got a notice home......there was also another issue the person spoke about...She wanted to know why us parents were not notified that a 4th grader threatened a 2nd grader with a knife. We didn't hear about that either...SO I am assuming she has a friend that works somewhere within the school system that is running their mouth about things they were probably told to keep quiet about and the only way to bring it to focus to the rest of us that have kids there was to do it in the paper's sound off section.... |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:57:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
There is no way until Monday morning to even verify if anything that was said in the piece that this person did is true. I can totally understand not notifying us about the e-mail thing.....but the knife thing is pushing it. I will be stopping by the school office on Monday morning first thing..you can guarentee that one... |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 33925
Oh nice..so in other words SOMEONE has NO life so they felt the need to take it upon themselves to make someone else as miserable as they are..LOL Dont you just LOVE Nosy busybodies?? |
Date: 11/2/2002 5:58:00 PM ( Admin-JGB )
So the flip side would be, .. Isn't that sort of thing better dealt with on your own time and not on school time? IF and a big IF it were done on the school system, I would be wondering why my tax dollars were paying some teacher to send another teacher porno?? ...Taxes, pay, time spent?? Mean nothing??  |
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Date: 11/2/2002 5:58:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Kethria that is the way that it should have been too...LOL |
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Date: 11/2/2002 6:03:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
My thoughts exactly Lady Luck.....not to mention there have been VERY FEW instances of violence in the public school system where I am. By that I mean any form of weapons brought to school. Sure there have been some knives and stuff but they have ALWAYS been around..To me the person made our school system look horrible in doing that...She (I am going to assume it was a woman because it just reads like a nosey woman...LOL)also wanted to know who the new janitor was that stands outside in the morning with his arms folded watching all the action while people double park and kids run out into the middle of the street. I would REALLY love to know what school this person is dropping their kid off at because I am there every morning at 8:35 the busiest drop off period and I have NEVER seen anyone double parked, parked illegally in the handicapped spaces or kids running out into the street. In fact last week I double parked because the monitor was not yet outside when I dropped Az off for school and I pulled over to wait....he came right over to my window and told me I had to move that I COULD NOT double park. Needless to say this little news clipped BUGGED me.....LOL |
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Date: 11/2/2002 6:04:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Junga if the teacher was doing it after school.....before school started......OR on her lunch break...WHAT? are you paying for?.....Obviously it wasn't sent during class time or teaching time because without question the teacher would be gone... |
Date: 11/2/2002 6:10:00 PM ( Admin-JGB )
Before or after "class" doesn't matter as much as the taxes I pay for my kid to be able to go to school shouldn't be used for some porno search for some teacher ... NO? Am I wrong about that LOL  |
Date: 11/2/2002 6:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
It isn't a big deal... the problem stems from the fact that there are people who stick their noses in where they don't belong... poor teacher  |
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Date: 11/2/2002 6:16:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Junga who said the teacher was doing a porno search? Most likely what happened is REALLY simple. The teacher came into school in the morning, put thier coat and hat away, grabbed a cup of coffee and sat down to read their e-mails which in the school system most times is announcements, up coming events and whatever. Within their e-mail they probably got a funny dirty joke that included a picture...got a chuckle out of it and said Hey......Mrs. so and so would probably find this funny too and just forwarded it along like it was nothing...It is OBVIOUS that it HAD to be a situation similiar to this or the teacher would have been in more trouble over the situation and US the parents would have been notified.. |
Date: 11/2/2002 6:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
Well I do not think pornography has any place in a school setting howeveer if this was done on a private email and not on school grounds I would not have a problem with it. If it happeneed on school time and on a school email system then yea I have a problem with that because it could inadvertantly slip into the hands of the wrong person  |
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Date: 11/2/2002 6:17:00 PM ( Admin-JGB )
I wonder if those that think it is no big deal are home owners, that pay taxes for schools?? Cuz I wouldn't like to be paying all this money for use of equpment for ANYTHING other than school business! Or at least that is how I would look at it if it were at my kids school... |
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Date: 11/2/2002 6:18:00 PM ( Admin-JGB )
That's true AZ my email is plagued with it. |
Date: 11/2/2002 6:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 27678
At one time, teacher's had to be of some integrity, but not anymore. Frankly, I'd be concerned that someone who is supposed to be an intellectual would bother with porn. Porn is degrading, disgusting and definitely not something that is enlightening or of any value, so I agree with the writer to sound off. Throw them out. Young children should be taught by someone with some kind of moral fortitude.  |
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Date: 11/2/2002 6:21:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Junga Oh yeah I am a "homeowner" (not quite my mother in law still holds the deed but I pay the taxes) I pay $1500 a year in school taxes and even so if it was done on the school computer system I don't have a problem with it. Most likely it is because I don't see malicious intent behind it and the reason for that is because obviously neither did the school system. They didn't notify the parents and they didn't suspend or fire the teacher. So it just tells you it was something done without thinking about it because the teacher meant no harm in doing it. So I am not looking at the nasty side of the situation because it doesn't seem like it applies here. Now if the teacher was known for doing this and used the schools terminals to send it along constantly it would be a different situation..but it doesn't appear to be the case here.. |
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Date: 11/2/2002 6:23:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Nice to see you again FreeGirl.........Just because there are people that can find humor in a perverted e-mail does not mean that they don't have morals and they have no integrity. |
Date: 11/2/2002 6:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 50435
If the students didn't see it, then I don't see the problem. Sure, maybe it wasn't smart to send the email to the address that the recipient has with the school, but it doesn't matter. Some people just don't have a clue...  |
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Date: 11/2/2002 6:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 51941
I think I have to say I agree with you. I think that whatever the teacher wants to do on his/her own time is their business. If he/she was harrassing the other teacher well that would be a different story. And as long as they didn't send it while in class, because what if a student came up and saw what this teacher was doing. Princess Daveena |
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Date: 11/2/2002 6:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 50435
Freegirl, I went to university with people who were studying to become teachers. They're just like you and me. Some of them were wild. It's part of who they are. Just because a woman is a teacher doesnt' mean she can't go out bar-hopping and wind up having an encounter, and vice versa... |
Date: 11/2/2002 7:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 50791
I agree with you. As long as it wasn't child pornography and no children saw it then its the teachers own business. I'm sure every teacher in the world has seen porn on the internet at one time or another. I'm sure everyone in the world has! And that lady who called in probably sees it all the time too!  |
Date: 11/2/2002 7:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 53054
lolz if it was any normal person..like not a teacher...ppl should not have a problem wif it..i thikn it is also wrong to place tha name of the skool in the paper, were this happened....it is no ones business like realli teacherz r allowed to have a private life 2..how would someone like if wat they sent ova the email was said in tha local papa...lolz tat would be so silly man! tis is wrong..itz no ones business...tha teacher did nuffin like wrong..in my bookz anyways! and for someone to tell the newspaper...OMG tat is takin it 2 far! (hugz)  |
Date: 11/2/2002 8:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 59418
I agree with you! I mean teachers have the right to live, just because they are teachers doesn't mean that they have to become like complete puritans or anything. metal princess  |
Date: 11/2/2002 8:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 22852
I think the person who called in about it is a jealous person who needs to mind his/her own business. Teachers are people just like you and I and if my parenting was based on the email I recieved then my son whould be taken away from me.. Isn't that right guys.. and you all know who I am speaking to.. ROFLMAO  |
Date: 11/2/2002 9:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 42515
I read that this morning too. I think its crazy. I look forward to reading your comment in the newspaper ;-)  |
Date: 11/2/2002 9:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
i agree people need to lighten up as long as there kids arent seeing this garbage wheres the harm?  |
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Date: 11/2/2002 10:28:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
STORM...........ROFLMBOOOOOOO!!!!!!! I was waiting for "someone" on the list to pop out and say something like then...AMEN to that sister!!!.....LOLOLOLOL!!! |
Date: 11/3/2002 4:59:00 AM
From Authorid: 28190
It wouldnt bother me.. I am with you all the way on this Az.... And ROFLMAO Storm!  |
Date: 11/3/2002 5:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 23037
i wonder how everyone found out too. thats the key , if it was on the schools computer or if the other teacher told. just depends on the details...  |
Date: 11/3/2002 9:47:00 AM
From Authorid: 59876
if it was on school computers, the teachers should be reprimanded as it is inappropriate to the time and place.  |
Date: 11/4/2002 9:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 20104
I dont think that should be something that is broadcasted in the newspaper. Maybe the teacher should be brought into the office privately and told not to send porn at school. I dont see why it should be made anyone elses business.  |
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Date: 11/4/2002 9:57:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jamie the teacher was probably reprimanded in some fashion, however the school never notified US the parents of the situation. The person that called this into the newspaper was probably a friend of someone that works in the school office and was just running her mouth about school affairs over a cup of coffee...LOL |
Date: 11/4/2002 12:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 9130
I do not see a problem with it, who cares what the teacher was doing on their own time.  |
Date: 11/8/2002 3:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 35114
If it the e-mail was sent from his home, then I'd have to say that it is none of the schools concern. What he does in his private life is his buisness. However if the image was found at the school then I'd say some punishment should be enforced. That is not appropriate behavior for a school.  |
