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CIVILIAN INTERNMENT CAMPS UP FOR REVIEW ( American "Concentration camps")

  Author:  10146  Category:(Debate) Created:(11/23/2002 11:43:00 AM)
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On August 3, 1948, J. Edgar Hoover met with Attorney General J. Howard McGrath to form a plan whereby President Truman could suspend constitutional liberties during a national emergency. The plan was code-named "Security Portfolio" and, when activated, it would authorize the FBI to summarily arrest up to 20,000 persons and place them in national security detention camps. Prisoners would not have the right to a court hearing or habeas corpus appeal. Meanwhile, "Security Portfolio" allowed the FBI to develop a watch list of those who would be detained, as well as detailed information on their physical appearance, family, place of work, etc. (David Burnham, Above the Law).

Two years later Congress approved the Internal Security Act of 1950 which contained a provision authorizing an emergency detention plan. Hoover was unhappy with this law because it did not suspend the constitution and it guaranteed the right to a court hearing (habeas corpus). "For two years, while the FBI continued to secretly establish the detention camps and work out detailed seizure plans for thousands of individuals, Hoover kept badgering...[Attorney General McGrath for] official permission to ignore the 1950 law and carry on with the more ferocious 1948 program. On November 25, 1952, the attorney general...caved in to Hoover." ibid.

Congress repealed the Emergency Detention Act of 1950 more than twenty years later in 1971. Seemingly the threat of civilian internment in the United States was over, but not in reality. The Senate held hearings in December, 1975, revealing the ongoing internment plan which had never been terminated. The report, entitled, "Intelligence Activities, Senate Resolution 21", disclosed the covert agenda. In a series of documents, memos and testimony by government informants, the picture emerged of the designs by the federal government to monitor, infiltrate, arrest and incarcerate a potentially large segment of American society.

The Senate report also revealed the existence of the Master Search Warrant (MSW) and the Master Arrest Warrant (MAW) which are currently in force. The MAW document, authorized by the United States Attorney General, directs the head of the FBI to: "Arrest persons whom I deem dangerous to the public peace and safety. These persons are to be detained and confined until further order." The MSW also instructs the FBI Director to "search certain premises where it is believed that there may be found contraband, prohibited articles, or other materials in violation of the Proclamation of the President of the United States." It includes such items as firearms, shortwave radio receiving sets, cameras, propaganda materials, printing presses, mimeograph machines, membership and financial records of organizations or groups that have been declared subversive, or may be hereafter declared subversive by the Attorney General."

Since the Senate hearings in 1975, the steady development of highly specialized surveillance capabilities, combined with the exploding computerized information technologies, have enabled a massive data base of personal information to be developed on millions of unsuspecting American citizens. It is all in place awaiting only a presidential declaration to be enforced by both military and civilian police.

In 1982, President Ronald Reagan issued National Security Directive 58 which empowered Robert McFarlane and Oliver North to use the National Security Council to secretly retrofit FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) to manage the country during a national crisis. The 1984 "REX exercises" simulated civil unrest culminating in a national emergency with a contingency plan for the imprisonment of 400,000 people. REX 84 was so secretive that special metal security doors were installed on the FEMA building's fifth floor, and even long-term officials of the Civil Defense Office were prohibited entry. The ostensible purpose of this exercise was to handle an influx of refugees created by a war in Central America, but a more realistic scenario was the detention of American citizens.

STATE OF EMERGENCY Under "REX" the President could declare a state of emergency, empowering the head of FEMA to take control of the internal infrastructure of the United States and suspend the constitution. The President could invoke executive orders 11000 thru 11004 which would: 1- Draft all citizens into work forces under government supervision. 2- Empower the postmaster to register all men, women and children. 3- Seize all airports and aircraft. 4- Seize all housing and establish forced relocation of citizens.

FEMA, whose black budget comes from the Department of Defense, has worked closely with the Pentagon in an effort to avoid the legal restrictions of Posse Comitatus. While FEMA may not have been directly responsible for these precedent-setting cases, the principle of federal control was seen during the Los Angeles riots in 1992 with the federalization of the National Guard and during the siege at Waco, where Army tanks equipped with flame throwers were involved in the final conflagration.

GOVERNMENT VIOLENCE IS "LEGITIMATE"? The Deputy Attorney General of California commented at a conference that anyone who attacks the State, even verbally, becomes a revolutionary and an enemy by definition. Louis Guiffreda, who was head of FEMA, stated that "legitimate violence is integral to our form of government, for it is from this source that we can continue to purge our weaknesses."

It is significant to note that the dictionary definition of terrorism - "the calculated use of violence" - corresponds precisely to the government's stated policy of "the use of legitimate violence." One might ask, who are the real terrorists? Guiffreda's remark gives a revealing insight into the thinking of those who have been charged with oversight of the welfare of the citizens in this country. If one's convictions or philosophy does not correspond with the government's agenda, that individual may find himself on the government's enemy list.

This makes him a "target" to be "purged" by the use of "legitimate violence."

Debate.., Is this what all the New Homeland Security bill, that has recently been passed for the president to sign, is all about? I think so. If you think otherwise, please provide evidence for your reasons of belief!

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Date: 11/23/2002 11:54:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 10146    Notice the reasons behind the Temporary CITIES, that are to be completed by Jan. 2003? Are they really for the American peoples protection from Terrorist threats, on the cities of America? I think NOT!  
Date: 11/23/2002 1:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 47699    This is scary and I hope and pray it never happens.  
Date: 11/23/2002 2:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    This goes hand in hand with the post I just made, ,but I didnt put it in debate: http://unsolvedmysteries.com/usm311475.html In time haddam they will see, in time.  
Date: 11/23/2002 2:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    why does bush and them wanna take our rights away this is not what the forefathers wanted i think this government needs to be dissolved and the rights of the people given back  
Date: 11/23/2002 2:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 37354    Glad I am one of the elite. I will be sure y'all are treated well. The least I can do. hugo
Date: 11/23/2002 3:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 34814    Right on Jestr!!! Bush is a evil you know what!  
Date: 11/23/2002 4:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    Jestr, they dont want the people to have thier rights back, and they take more and more from us. HUGO: so good of you, so while we disentents are setting in the concentration camps, how about bringing by a chess game from time to time, or maybe a morsel of food?  
Date: 11/23/2002 10:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 27678    Welcome to l984. The end is just beginning.  
Date: 11/24/2002 9:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 42792    they are part of FEMA and martial law.  
Date: 11/24/2002 10:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 47296    For over 50 years now, Americans have taken their rights for granted. They have become complacent in the thought that government was there to care for us. Few today have bothered to follow the lesson taught to us in WWII when our trops went deep into the former Nazi homeland and found the concentration camps where millions of Jews, dissidents, and undesirables died. They refuse to remember the lesson where Hitler created a great sense of national pride that allowed him to eventually control every aspect of the Germanic people's lifes, including disarming civilians, taking property, and relocating the people he wanted relocated. The events of 9-11 cause a great resurgence in American national pride. All eyes turned to Washington for the answer to what had been done, and Washington responded by coming up with a security plan to insure the safety of all Americans. In Pre War Germany, brown shirts carried out covert attacks against selected German targets, in an attempt to make the ethnic Germanic people believe there was a force within their country that wished to disrupt their way of life. America has the FBI to gather inteliigence on individuals that may later be used to arrest those people without due process, sieze property that legally own, and intern them in camps where they will have no legal recourse. In Germany, Hitler had the Geastapo that did the same thing. I am sure that our government has already decided which military units and commanders can be depended on to carry out orders set forth by FEMA or Homeland Security to assist in the arrest and confinement of detainees, and to go into areas where needed and maintain martial law. Germany had select SS units that did the same. Looking at all the parallels from then to now, could it be that those in power have remembered the lessons well that were taught from 1933 to 1945, while most Americans who could remember those lessons have forgottenthem with age, and while our schools refuse to teach the young of our country the true lessons of that period? In WWII Europe, there were those who refused to bow down to a mad man, and made every effort to disrupt his efforts. In America today, there are many who will do the same. The difference being that those who would do it today see the signs on the wall, and many have already prepared for that day when they may have to do the one thing no one wishes to think about, and attempt to return the reigns of pwoer to the people. One of my major concerns in all this is the people of the Untied States in general. There are many conservatives and liberals in this country that believe in what the government may do. They believe it is the right choice. How many of those who support the government so freely are going to find themselves as the very target of such a government gone mad? Time will tell. I believe our country is headed for a new Civil War. Not a war that will divide certain parts of this country from other parts, but one that will divide us across the nation, between those that believe in the freedom papers that our forefathers wrote, and those who believe in a government run amock, and even a New World Order. As for me, as my ancestors did over a hundred years ago, I will side with the rebels, and with many others, attempt to uphold that which is rightfully ours. When all is said and done, a government run amock will not prevail. History has shown that it cannot, and has been proven time again, history will repeat itself. This will be not the beggining of the end, only the end of what was, and maybe a new beginning, where hopefully we as a people can get back to being what we once were, totally free Americans that wiht a government truly by by the people, of the people, and for the people.  
Date: 11/24/2002 10:17:00 AM  From Authorid: 47296    You will have to excuse the length of my previous post. As a lifelong student of history, and a veteran, there are some things that kind of stick in my craw.  
Date: 11/24/2002 10:18:00 AM  From Authorid: 15621    very telling for sure  
Date: 11/24/2002 12:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 46266    Excuse the length? You left me pining for more haha. Well said Warrior Spirit, the parallels between Germany's 1938/1939 and America's 2001/2002 are too many to be ignored. Remember the burning of the Reichstag which Hitler orchestrated and blamed on the Jews? Remember the collapse of the World Trade Center which Bush orchestrated and blamed on the Arabs? The hate I see when I traverse the 'net (NUKE IRAQ on game rooms and web pages, MELT THE TOWEL HEADS in chat rooms and forums) felt by Americans cannot be any more extreme than the hate felt by Germans toward the Jew. All it takes is a little propoganda, and the citizenry swallows hook, line, and sinker. Nobody even asks for proof anymore - not that any has been provided, just that such a request has become monotonous. Haadam, the thought of "temporary cities" really being a politically correct label for "concentration camps" is too real a possibility to allow me any comfort. I've been wondering how they would label the camps. Since reading Protocol 10 of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, I am convinced that the Bush term is the one which will see the creation of a new constitution. I know a lot of conspiractists suspected Clinton, but the protocols specify a Republican as the man to do the deed. A thought: wouldn't it be easier to overthrow the government now, before they are completely finished with their "temporary cities" and recruiting all of their infiltrators? Alas, though everybody can see the smoke, few suspect a fire, and even fewer are ready to douse it until their own flesh gets burned.  
Date: 11/24/2002 12:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 46565    Civilian concentration camps are a scary thought. I fear that if there every was a nuclear explosion on US soil the government via the IAO would round up every subversive who they discovered through this new survaillance system and put them into camps (which could include people like some USMers who right "anti" - mind the quotation marks- government messages). Of course that is the worst case scenario, but it is not out of the realm of possibility.  
Date: 11/24/2002 12:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 46565    sorry I wrote that kind of fast. I mean ever not every, and write not right.  
Date: 11/24/2002 1:21:00 PM  From Authorid: 47296    Neonhaze, the greatest threat to any government is an armed populace. With the speed of communications today, including computers, cell phones, message pagers, and everything else, the government would have to muster quite a large force to act quick enough. I assure you that such a force being mustered would be noticied, and that many who would feel threatened would be prepared.  
Date: 11/24/2002 2:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    WarriorSpirit, good comment.  
Date: 11/30/2002 6:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 3321    Tis' true that these are built. See Discover Magazine and Popular Science Magazine.  

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