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Was 20 year sentence too long?....by TC

  Author:  177  Category:(Debate) Created:(2/16/2003 9:47:00 PM)
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Are you familiar with the case of the lady dentist who rammed her vehicle into her philandering husbands car? He died as a result...and she was charged with murder most foul.

The lady has been sentenced to 20 years in prison...and I think that is way too long considering all factors.

From what little I know of this case this was a very respected and valued member of her community, and a loving mother. She was not a criminal by nature or in intent. In a moment of mental anguish over her adulterous husband's affaire with another woman she rammed her vehicle into his...resulting in his death.

I do not believe that she intended to kill him, or necesarilly to injure him...but to express her grief and emotional agony.

What she did was wrong...but I wouldn't call it murder but rather manslaughter. Twenty years is way excessive I think. A couple years at most would have been appropriate.

What do you think?

TC

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Date: 2/16/2003 9:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 44850    *shrugs* ... at least she didn't run over him 3 times ...  
Date: 2/16/2003 9:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 53427    From what I know of the story, I think she deserved that sentence and even more probably. I don't think just because the crime was committed in the heat of passion that it excuses her from being responsible. The guys daughter was in the car with her when it ran over her dad. Now that girl has to live with that memory forever. I think she has to pay for what she's done and I don't feel sorry for her. But I haven't seen a whole lot of coverage on this. I just caught bits and pieces of it on Court TV, so maybe I missed something.  
Date: 2/16/2003 9:56:00 PM  From Authorid: 46069    well that depends.. was it her time of the month... cause then her hormomes would have gotten her off scott free  
Date: 2/16/2003 10:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 27554    She should have gotten the 20 years. She killed him, it is never right to kill a person. If you run into a person with a car, you know that there is a chance of hurting them. She meant to hurt him. It is never right to harm or kill another person unless you are protectiong your own life, or the life of a loved one. She shouldn't have let her emotions out in that way. She could have just left him. I mean, who rams a car into another person's car because that person made them angry? It's just wrong. Even if it was her time of the month she was wrong.  
Date: 2/16/2003 10:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    TC..From what I understand and from watching the news footage, she didn't kill her husband by ramming into his car..She ran over him several times in a parking lot..She got of easier than she would have because she committed a crime of passion. Regardless..She should have left him long ago instead of killing him. She had no right to take his life. The way I see it is.. She will be out in 20 years, sooner probably, and a chance to continue to enjoy life. Her husband has no chance. If she wanted revenge, she could have taken him for everything he had but she had no right taking his life.  
Date: 2/16/2003 10:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    I agree with Rusure, there were children to think of here, not only his daughter, who witnessed this, but two little boys, left without parents. She was a highly educated woman, her sole motive was revenge. I don't know all the circumstances, but when people stop loving their partner, whatever the relationship, we have to grieve and move on, if not, crimes of passion would occur everywhere, constantly.  
Date: 2/17/2003 3:05:00 AM  From Authorid: 61901    I think she should be put in the Electric Chair! The Only reason a person has the right to take another life, is in self defence! As for her just wanting to injure her husband? Its stupid to take a chance of going to jail over another person. She has ruined her life and What about her children...now they have no mother and no father, because this stupid women's feeling were hurt.  
Date: 2/17/2003 3:16:00 AM  From Authorid: 59876    from how i heard it on the news, rusure (hi rusure has it right. the woman ran her husband over with her car several times. yes, i think she deserves the 20 years.  
Date: 2/17/2003 4:59:00 AM  From Authorid: 59418    20 years is WAY too long...that is wrong. a year or two is enough! metal princess  
Date: 2/17/2003 6:30:00 AM  From Authorid: 3538    Still confused as to all the details in this one. I don't know exactly everything that happened.  
Date: 2/17/2003 6:45:00 AM  ( Admin-JGB )   I gotta ask myself if she was really "gone" emotionally... the first bump over his body didn't snap her out of it, nor the second nor the third... hmmm and the mans own daughter that was in the car screaming at her step mother to stop killing her father... did that snap her out of it?... now the question is would she "lose" it again at someone in society and kill them too? Not to mention that she said to her step daughter "I am gonna hit him"... hmmmm Like sexxxxypenguine said... at least she didn't run over him three times....
Date: 2/17/2003 6:48:00 AM  ( Admin-JGB )   by the way... had she hit him once, she probably would have received a very light sentence as you could call that an emotional over boil... but not three times... imho
Date: 2/17/2003 8:51:00 AM  From Authorid: 10722    20 years is to short. She should rot and die in jail.  
Date: 2/17/2003 8:58:00 AM  From Authorid: 3125    If people were allowed to kill others because they failed to keep their anger and resentments in check then our streets would be full of murderers. Metal Princess..If someone ran over your own son and killed him, would you then think that a year or two years would be enough? A life is a precious thing and something not to be taken lightly. She did not own him and had no right to take his life from him. I am not defending him..He sounds like he was a jerk to me. But if we were allowed to kill everyone whom we thought were jerks because of their actions then this world would have far less people.  
Date: 2/17/2003 8:58:00 AM  From Authorid: 47218    well, she did kill the guy. It all hinges on whether she did intentionally or not. Since I was not there to witness the trial or the actual event and I do not know the woman personally and have no way of reading her mind, I cannot determine what her intention was. Apparently the prosecution was successful in demonstrating that she intended to run him over.  
Date: 2/17/2003 9:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 47218    if she ran him over three times, then I would have to say that's a pretty strong indication of intentionality  
Date: 2/17/2003 9:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 47218    if she ran him over three times, then I would have to say that's a pretty strong indication of intentionality  
Date: 2/17/2003 9:04:00 AM  From Authorid: 47218    lol, Rusure-- I heard that the guy's parents were actually on the wife's side in this case. He must have been a really nice guy. lol  
Date: 2/17/2003 9:35:00 AM  From Authorid: 24856    I find it difficult to feel badly for her.....I would think it would be easier to walk away with dignity than with a fit of passion. I would not want a man that cheated or did not want me.  
Date: 2/17/2003 9:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 56293    I understand that the woman was angry at her husband, but, you don't go and run someone over. Thats going to far. An eye for an eye.  
Date: 2/17/2003 10:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 3125    Molly cat..That's what I mean..Since his parents were on his wife's side, he had to have been a jerk..Probably one of those who had cheated on his wife from the very beginning. From what I heard, the wife did so much to keep the marriage together. She had lost weight, had liposuction, joined an exercise club, etc, just so she would look good from him. She should have kept her anger in check and left him a long time ago and found her someone who would have appreciated her.  
Date: 2/17/2003 11:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 47218    you're absolutely right, Rusure. It's a pity she let her anger get the better of her.  
Date: 2/17/2003 5:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 43948    Well, I think she could have found an alternative way of expressing her distaste in him, or even to spite him. 20 years here is a pretty harsh sentence, personally I'd say AT THE MOST 7 years. Having a permanent criminal record (im assuming she already has) is enough of a setback.  
Date: 2/17/2003 5:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 43948    Well, I think she could have found an alternative way of expressing her distaste in him, or even to spite him. 20 years here is a pretty harsh sentence, personally I'd say AT THE MOST 7 years. Having a permanent criminal record (im assuming she already has) is enough of a setback.  
Date: 2/18/2003 12:52:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 177    It's true that I may have gone off half cocked on this story. I have not followed it real closely. But still don't you think that a PMS'ing woman (if indeed she was PMS'ing) should be cut a little slack...like maybe knock off a month or two of her sentence?  
Date: 2/18/2003 12:56:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 177    I may have missed some (many) pertinent details of this case. Too bad that she hadn't chosen instead to clobber him with her lipstick case instead of clobbering him with her car.  
Date: 2/18/2003 1:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    Amtrak..PMSing gives no one the right to break the law and especially to commit murder. This woman suspected that her husband was cheating on her for awhile. She followed him and when he came out of the motel to enter his car, she ran over him at least three times. She committed murder..If she is given slack for committing murder, what would this be saying to the spouses of all the cheaters out there? She had other options and she should have considered one of them. As I said before..No one has the right to take the law into their own hands and to kill another human being.  
Date: 2/18/2003 1:56:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    LOL..I mean AMRAK.. Would have been easier to address you as TC.   
Date: 2/18/2003 4:44:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 177    You may call me AMTRAK if you like. I won't PMS about it. I was merely suggesting that a month or two be knocked off of 20 years.  
Date: 2/20/2003 10:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 46139    20 years was just way to long,I think she should
have gotten 2 years plus probation.
  
Date: 2/20/2003 10:35:00 AM  ( Admin-JGB )   Oshen... 2 years is enough time incarcerated for taking another life?
Date: 2/20/2003 11:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 54111    Why is this way too long? I believe she knew exactly what she was doing. She was angry and took action. There is no other way to explain it. Bigdadi9  
Date: 2/20/2003 12:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 25828    manslaughter it should have been - all i could think when i saw it was "so HE cheated and she is going to jail for it"...because that is the circumstance..he was a rotten no good, and she had a moment of passion over it (a crime of passion)...so because he is a dastard he is dead - i don't know if she meant to do it or not - but he brought it all on himself.  
Date: 2/20/2003 12:08:00 PM  ( Admin-JGB )   I would hate to think that it ever becomes justifiable for a wife or husband to murder over "he/she deserved it" for cheating... Cheating happens over and over and over we all know it, (don't have to like it but it is a fact) but most other people don't go out and kill because their spouse was cheating, they get divorced!!
Date: 2/20/2003 12:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    Heather..So what you are saying is that anyone who cheats on their spouse deserves a death sentence carried out by an avenging spouse? The woman committed a crime because she was hurt badly. Two wrongs do not make a right. While he was yet alive, his wife had the option of taking him for everything he had, cause him public humiliation by exposing him, etc..Sure he hurt his wife badly by being such a jerk but she committed a very serious crime when she killed him. If we were permitted by law to kill anyone who has hurt us badly, then jerks look out, we're coming to get ya!!  
Date: 2/21/2003 8:20:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 177    As soon as my first wife separated from me I was in emotional agony. I hit the bottle, and had half baked notions of doing serious damage to anyone she was involved with. Fortunately no physical violence came of it...but it came close. Once I had a confrontation with one of my wifes fellow employees, and made insinuations that I thought that he (without any evidence) was involved with her. I'm glad that I'm not a gun person; I was in really bad psychological health during that period...and alcohol sure didn't help. I'm just saying this to show that I empathize with people who go bonkers and do something awful, while undergoing alot of emotional pain.  
Date: 2/27/2003 7:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 13952    TC...ask the teenager that was setting in the car while her step mother ran over her dad three times....if the sentence is too light....  
Date: 3/2/2003 3:43:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 177    Good point, Jim.  

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