Date: 3/8/2003 11:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 30264
i believe they nailed the hand and tied the wrist  |
Date: 3/9/2003 1:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 55689
i watched a movie once about this..what this post makes me wonder is.. what are the factual wound areas?  |
Date: 3/9/2003 1:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 55967
You know, I have thought a lot about that before. I think they realized the deal with the wrists when they noticed that the figure on the Shroud of Turin was nailed through the wrists and not the palms, then did tests, and said "ahh, yea, only the wrists in that region will support the weight!" I've come up with two personal theories. One is that of Maniac. He may be on to something. The other is that spirituality does not concern itself with what is physically appropriate; if the person is spiritual enough and in touch with God, he may manifest these signs as he himself believes them to be. Maybe no one can be the source of a miracle beyond their own comprehension of reality and what they believe, and these are only supposed to be symbolic. (maybe) ~GypsyHawk~  |
Date: 3/9/2003 1:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 46068
An outstanding question.... I find miracles very fasinating myself... I do not blame you for being hesitant at claiming any religion including such that is so vauge... Christianity is simply believing in Christ and that he died for your sins... Pretty simplistic and although confirmed Lutheran I just claim Christianity with variants from the many but whatever... (Dogma, "better to have a good idea then to believe" The Holy Bible according to.... (Another reason that its hard to hold to it... Read 3 times and a little extra here and there :) Also read many others... To your question though.... Again, to answer your question... The Bible states that what you shall hold true on earth so shall I in heaven... Guess what its not important if this is accurate but maybe if someone feels the pain of Jesus as a headach OR>>>> Stakes through the hands/wrists is no longer important...... They still feel pain and trust that the Stigmata does indeed happen from time to time... Would you tell the world? So anyways and Remember what they decided about Jesus in the 5th Century A.D. He was fully human, fully devine and neither nature confounded the either... It was said prior in 76A.D.
Dont ask how I know, we were just too dumb to remember some things then.... lol, anyways not to sound like a Bible Thumper cuz I'm not but.... Trust in what you feel you need too and God bless you always... Let me know if you have had your question answered :) Talk later,  |
Date: 3/9/2003 1:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 46068
Hmmmmm, heres a thought... Its the son of God and he had strong hands and had not eaten right since he did that whole 40 nights in the wilderness thing and was only an 80 pound son of God.... Whatever.... Does it REALLY matter?
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Date: 3/9/2003 1:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 46068
Stigmata is factually wrong hmmmm, how many facts have been wrong over two thousand years and how many still are??? lol :) |
Date: 3/9/2003 1:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 46068
You have me on a roll here, I need to quit lol
Take care and God bless always and forever see you when you get done with the ride??? Whatever, take care
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Date: 3/9/2003 5:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 23075
I'm not trying to start an argument or anyting...buthow do you know stigmata was wrong....where you there personally to see it. I'm just curious that's all  |
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Date: 3/9/2003 5:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 23075
and I believe Maniac is correct they nailed the hands but tied the wrists......I'm not positive but all the pictures in our bible show that |
Date: 3/9/2003 6:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 10245
I've seen a couple of documentaries where they attempt to re-inact the crucification. Their findings show that the palms may have been nailed, instead of the wrists. Most studies have shown that the palms can't support the weight of the body and wouldn't "hold up" through-out the crucifiction. Once the feet were supported (which removed a lot of the weight from the hands) the palms are believed to be strong enough.... Therefore, in answer to your question... maybe it's showing up the way it happened AND the way it's depicted in art. *shrugs* stigmata is pretty freaky, either way.  |
Date: 3/9/2003 9:10:00 AM
From Authorid: 49150
I want to keep an open mind and bring another possibility to the table. How do we know it is not some kind of disease of the body or brain. Have people with this kind of phenomena been properly tested? As much as I want to believe in miracles I can't help but wonder if there is another cause.  |
Date: 3/9/2003 10:07:00 AM
From Authorid: 60945
since they also drove nails through his ankles, wouldn't that bare some of the weight too? and if what Eagle Eyes said it true about him only being 80 pounds, it wouldn't be difficult for his wrists to hold up(I don't think) good luck finding the answers!  |
Date: 3/9/2003 10:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 8428
If one totally believes in something then it could happen...  |
Date: 3/9/2003 11:59:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62066
Okay, thanks to all...Maniac you have a point...so do you DemonicAngel...thanks for clearing it up. :)  |
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Date: 3/9/2003 9:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 46068
hmmmm, interesting....Glad that you found the answer which you were looking for... Take care, |
