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How good of a president is Bush? Bigtex

  Author:  16538  Category:(Debate) Created:(3/18/2003 4:56:00 PM)
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Ok lets ignore that any of us are Republican Democrat Green party anarchists blah blah blah and play neutral for a minute. Obviously the subject has come up often on how good of a president Bush is being in the midst of War. People say he isn’t a good president because the "feel" he's evil or the he’s a pawn of his father and just playing puppet. But lets look back and Ask how good of a president he is. First off his president was pretty much set off by a terrorist attack something no president has never really lead through. I’m not saying any other president would of done better or worse bet he did a pretty darn good job of keeping the country in somewhat order. The state of the economy can hardly be blamed on the Bush administration it always coincides with terrorist activities and hardly is affected by anything we do. And look what he's done in Afghanistan he returned order to a country which its women had the rights of a piece of trash and was ruled under fear. He has made progress in the war on terrorism capturing number of high level Al-Queda men everything pretty much short of Bin laden.

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Date: 3/18/2003 5:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 56630    i agree i think he is the worst preident ever.when he first became president i thought he was going to be really good scince his father was a president to...but after what i am hearing he has not done a good job.he isnt preventing any wars but he did make a pretty good comprimise recently with teh two days to leave or start war BUT the fact of the amtter is this is just making more people mad i think.Also,they had this aired on sesame street yesterday and it was about being scared and ya know what little 3 or 4 year olds dont need to be knowing about this.Good debate  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 49150    I am not real thrilled with him. The economy is horrible. My company alone has laid off 1350 people since November. If thing don't get better I won't have a job either.  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 56630    awwwwww im sorry cristal i hope they clear up this mess soon or else  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 56630    imma blow em all up
  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 47296    One cannot say Bush is not responsible for the present state of the economy. The nation's economy should be one of his highest priorities, since it directly effects every American. I have seen companies laying people off, including one local hospital that just shut down one of their wards, and laid off 150 people. Whereas 4 years ago the construction industry was booming, lately it has been in a decline. After 9-11 people were cautious about spending their expendable income, but by Christmas spending was on the rebound. Now, with the talk of war, people have once again slowed their inclination to spend. Gas prices have reached an all time high, yet the government refuses to release the national reserves. While Bush may be doing good on the international level, on the national level, and especially the economic level, I would say he rates a D+ to a C-.  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:41:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 16538    C+.  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 47699    Thank you for the post, Bigtex. I've lived through the administations of nine U.S. Presidents. I remember the Vietnam War and the Gulf War. I liked Richard M. Nixon and I don't care who knows it. People may laugh at him but he was a great President. Look at all he did to improve our relations with China. George W. Bush is a fine man and a great leader of the free world. I would go so far as to rank him right up there with Ronald Reagan who had a big part in the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. I'm proud of our President. I voted for him once and I will gladly do so again with absolutely NO hesitation. May God Bless America, our troops and our allies. We will not live in fear and soon the citizens of Iraq will be free just as are those in Afghanistan thanks to our noble efforts on their behalf. Terrorism may not be a thing of the past yet and it may never be but there certainly is a whole lot we can do to put a muzzle on those animals. Thanks again, Bigtex. After having said all of that, I'm going to get my helmet because I'm bound to have drawn some fire in my direction with my remarks.  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 47699    You have very valid points there, WS, but look at all that he's been faced with almost since he stepped into office. It's hard to do everything at once. As far as gas is concerned, it is my understanding that when and if war breaks out, Saudi Arabia has agreed to help us with our oil supply. I'm sure that all will be well in the long run.  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 17204    I agree with your post Big Tex.  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 11054    I think he's a great president everyone forgets the reason we have declared war is because they struck us first by attacking our Twin Towers they broke the piece now we have to take control I trust bush he has done a great job so far keeping this country in order.... we are attacking the problem instead of turning our back and letting it attack us first sure war is horrible but I'd rather be in control since it's inevitable we all know it will happen sooner or later!  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 17204    WS, Our economy is NOT his number one priority, thats not ANY presidents...it's the sfaety of his people and his country.  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 27270    You know what? We can't EXPECT the economy to be peachy keen in the face of terrorism or of a war, but the CAUSE comes before the EFFECT! George W. isn't just sitting around thinking of ways to ruin this country, he is trying to save us from a horrific terrorist attack! I don't know about you guys, but I'd say that's a heck of a lot more important than money! People who sit around complaining about what a terrible leader he is because we are going to go to war are naive. How will you feel if Hussein has managed to plant a nuke in this country that has been lying dormant for years? Waiting for THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT....when he's been given an ultimatum? When his 48 hours is up, how will it feel if he picks up the phone and says "Hey, George, there's a nuke in downtown Houston, now follow MY instructions....." How do you feel about the Hussein family torturing people simply because they LIKE to hear their screams. These men feed living human beings INTO PLASTIC SHREDDERS FOR KICKS! If a person can't see that this is a threat to be dealt with immediately (and actually should have been dealt w/ sooner, like in the last TWELVE years) then they are blind. I just can't believe there are so many people who think we should just sit by and let a brutal dictator become more and more brutal...unbelievable....I know I will probably catch hell for this reply, but man, wake up people!  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 17204    BUttafly kiss, carefull how you word what you wrote, i said soemthing similar and they jumped down my throat. Make sure your real clear that we had a terrorist attack and even though it was Idaq, we are going after terrorism in light of the attack, and Saddam fits the description.  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 27270    Lol, to answer your post directly, I LOVE GEORGE W. BUSH...I trust and support our President and our troops, may God Bless them all-people have forgotten and old but true catch phrase---United we stand but divided we fall-----  
Date: 3/18/2003 5:56:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 16538    It is widley known Saddam harbored and trained terrorist in his own country. While they where not Al-Queda I can safely say pretty much any terroist organization in the middle east is a threat to the US.  
Date: 3/18/2003 6:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 51061    Bush is a great man and in the midst of war I will follow him, I believe it is whats needed.  
Date: 3/18/2003 6:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 47296    Frank, at present, the gas for just one of my trucks runs about $120 a week. Now, I do not have to pay that, since the company buys my fuel and maintains my truck. With 3 other trucks going to jobsites every day, our weekly fuel expedniture is near $500 a week. That gets passed on to the cunstomer. On the average 6 week construction job, we are presently adding $4000 to $5000 to cover fuel and equipment costs. Most smaller companies that wish to build cannot afford to absorb the extra cost we have to add on. I have talked with other compnaies in the area, and everyone is facing the same problem. ONB, I lived through the Vietnam War, as well as several military police actions, and the Gulf War. Through them all, the President of the country has always kept the national economy high on the priority list. One reason Nixon renewed relations with China was that he knew it would open up trade, stimulating the economy. I own a small antiques business that I run part time. I have seen a lot of people in the same business fold recently, or have to cut back drastically because of reduced spending. At present, I take over $20,000 worth of merchandise to shows almost every weekend. If the economy does not turn around soon, I may have to consider selling out since my overhead has doubled since the first talk of this war, while sales are definitely not increasing.  
Date: 3/18/2003 6:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    it's sad to see the consumer is the one being affected most by this! expecially the lower to middle class who struggle just to pay the bills.. people who are getting laid off.. can barely afford thier bills as it is...  
Date: 3/18/2003 6:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    C-plus, B-minus....just my opinion.  
Date: 3/18/2003 6:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 17204    I have a question....for the USMers who totally dig clintion and democrats...I pose a question. We all remember his Kosovo incident (which I totally supported by the way, even though, yes Im a republican), he didnt go and seek UN approval or anything. At least Bush tried. How come it was okay for the great Clinton to do that and try and stop the cruel treatment of Kosovo's people w. out UN approval, but Bush can't try and a)stop the cruel treatment of Iraqs people, and b)try to end terrorism.  
Date: 3/18/2003 6:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 47699    WS, I hope and trust that that will soon get better for you and for all in that respect. As I said, I read in the news that with Saudi Arabia's help, gas prices should go down. Whether or not that affects our own reserves, I can't say. ONB, that's a very good point.  
Date: 3/18/2003 7:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 47296    ONB, on the matter of Kosovo, that was a NATO action. Europe took it upon itself with help from other NATO countries to end the problems in Kosovo and Serbia.  
Date: 3/18/2003 7:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    ahh we're putting it all aside so i will not slander anyone, so onto the debate. Bush has good intentions but is going about them the wrong way imo he's pushing to hard for war instead of listening to alternate resolutions, i agree the people of iraq need to be liberated but we should not put innocent lives in harms way  
Date: 3/18/2003 7:32:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 16538    It costs my dad about 130$ to fill is F-350 extra cab longbed. I totally think we shouldnt tap into our oil reserves. We need that for an extreme case. Saddam has killed way more civilians then we will kill in the war. And I bet the majority of innocent civilians killed in Iraq will be from Saddam.  
Date: 3/18/2003 8:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 47296    Big Tex, I'm only driving a F-150 with a modified chasis. I could only imagine what it would cost me to run a F-350.  
Date: 3/18/2003 8:30:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 16538    Yah Im not even going to mention how much it costs to run it with a enclosed 21' trailer with a race kart and equipment half way up Oregon. I do think that the prices will lower when Saudi helps us out if they do.  
Date: 3/18/2003 8:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    I don't know, the days and weeks and years ahead will be his judge, not I. I am though wondering what has happened to Osama Bin Forgotten.  
Date: 3/18/2003 9:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 51070    I don't agree with him. I read somewhere that he was ticked about Wiccan soldiers getting the same religious rights as other religions, so therefore, I don't like him. I study Wicca and for him to diss them just makes my blood boil. I'm sure you won't agree with my opinion, but I really don't care. It's just what I think. *leaves room*  
Date: 3/18/2003 9:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    lol my brother spends a crapload on his 74 torino, he gets i think 3 or 4 miles to the gallon, when we're dragging down the main strip we can watch the gas gauge go down  
Date: 3/19/2003 1:06:00 AM  From Authorid: 55967    Shadow Ghost, bin Laden, like I said to many others, is still being persued hard. You just don't hear about it in the news---and for good reason! Believe it; the US can and does do many things at once. Remember, we snagged his lieutenants when the public had no idea of the play-by-play to get them. ~GypsyHawk~  
Date: 3/19/2003 7:42:00 AM  From Authorid: 11240    He's a lousy poker player. In this game of Tex/Hus Hold 'em, his bluff was called, and I don't think he's got an ace in the hole. Of course, I also don't think Iraq is playing with a full deck. But we've upped the ante and we're all (the WHOLE world) waiting for the chips to fall. God Bless.  
Date: 3/19/2003 7:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 53713    Buttaflykiss, they never striked us first. People are forgetting that the one's who have attacked us are al-quaeda. We have just put our fears and anger on someone else. ~crescentmoon~

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