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Date: 3/19/2003 7:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 60052
I agree with your strong feelings in this matter. Unfortunately, although we are Americans, we are not free, we don't get to choose if we go to war or not, and we have no control over this. My family has been as prepared as we can for this for the past year, we have stock piled, food, water, emergency kits, and other survival items in preparation for the inevitable. I can only suggest that you read as much as you can on basic first aid, cpr, treating chemical burns and PRAY. God is the only one who can do anything now.  |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 36901
I feel sorry for people who think this is all about oil.  |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:17:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 49101
Apryl, No, I never said this ALL about OIL. So PLEASE do not put words in my mouth. BUT, Don't you THINK IF we BELONGED in this war, that we would have UN backing???? THINK ABOUT IT! We are listening to ONE SIDE! HIS side. Pres JRs' SIDE.  |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 16538
Oh God cry about it. You are blowing this way out of proportion. Bush isnt going in for OIL jeese oh mighty havent your learned that by now? You are making us seem like bad guys we're not we are not targeting civilians. We are not going to go carpet bomb downtown baghdad. Id rather see 2000 civilians die as a result of collateral damage then 2000 civilians die from Saddam torturing or him aiding a terrorist group and American citizens dying.  |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 48689
AMEN!  |
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Date: 3/19/2003 7:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 36901
Thank you Big Tex. It's good to know that I wasn't the only one who caught that! |
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Date: 3/19/2003 7:36:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 49101
Yes, "not blow it out of proportion" until it spreads. and that Tyrant we call a president, that blood thirsty "man" goes after some one elses home right??? Who's next??? France or Germany??? Cause they don't see it OUR WAY??? Maybe we won't kill a child tonight, but what about tomorrow??? or the next day... Be REASONABLE, do you really think it will stop in Iraq? |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
I feel the same at this moment, I felt on 9/11 just after the second plane hit & before the pentagon was struck....I am numb. Whether with fear, or pain, I cannot say....good post  |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 15228
Really?? My husband has gone to war 3 times, I never once stopped to think that he might possibly die. Thanks for the heads up!  |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 27270
Even though I am for this war, I hear you loud and clear and I am scared too. I look at my 7 year old little girl and I shudder to think about how life as we know it could be about to change. I look at her and imagine that many Iraqi mothers and fathers feel just as I do when they look at their children. The only thing that keeps me sane right now is putting faith in our troops and our President and PRAY (which I'll be honest, I don't do often) that this is the right thing to do and that it will not be in vain. I'm very sad when I think of the consequences this war will have, but I am uplifted at the same time by what this war could potentially prevent. I honestly believe that acting now will prevent tragedy of a MUCH larger scale because this man is dangerous and he must be stopped. I don't want to get into who/when/what is right, public vs. Bush, etc. because People, the war IS HERE. And instead of bickering about wrong and right now, we all need to find whatever it is that will get us through it. And hopefully we will find that in each other, regardless of our stance on the war.  |
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Date: 3/19/2003 7:44:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 49101
Kelly, a good friend of mine is a Desert Storm Vet. What is your point? You support your husband going overseas even if he doesn't fully understand the reason why? Or yourself? I am not saying that you don't, but what if? Lets just say for a minute that Bush Jr was sending forces to iceland because he wanted more Icecream shops in DC. You wouldn't agree with that would you? BUT guess what, Our husbands, sons daughters and Children STILL have to Go. So do you undersatnd my point now? WHY are we sending our men to place to die, for a cause that we are not even sure of? |
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Date: 3/19/2003 7:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 57404
I agree with Tex, and I agree that lives will be lost, and our president knows this as well. It isn't all about oil. There are civilians who are happy we are there. They want out from under this tyrant, and to be free. There is a lot more to this than us being a bully, or oil etc. Saddam had a choice to step down. He did not take that option. That is not our fault. That is his stupidity. If we had a man, who tortured and murdered our family memebers, we would want him out, no matter how it was done. This is just my own opinion. :-) God Bless America, and ever man and woman over there. My prayers are with the innocent, and with our nation and the nations who have joined our side to remove this tyrant from power. God Bless. :-)  |
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Date: 3/19/2003 7:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 16538
OHHH MY GOD WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. Are you some skitzo that thinks Bush is going to kill us all and oppose? OMG YOUR TELLING ME TO BE REASONABLE? Listen to what your saying taking out France and Germany thats not even feasible. I mean this is soooo out there I dont know how to take this post seriously. Let me brake this down for you Iraq(leadership)=bad, bad guys need to be taking care of. Do you relise how much of a backlash it would be if we went and took oil from Iraq it would be a politcal party suicide republicans would look like fools in the world arena and our goverment for years to come. |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
quit listening to other people and do some reading. it's not about black gold - let me use the caps like you did for a moment - DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND SADDAM IS A TORTURER? DO YOU NOT CARE??????? AS LONG AS IT ISN'T YOUR SON BEING TORTURED...'lets keep our men and women safe'..what a cowardly outlook. yes..lets keep the world safe - that is what we're doing. hopefully this last strike did kill saddam and both of his sons - which would mean it would be much more swift. picture yourself in bahgdad...a woman..no less -------- as an american, with your ideals of what freedom is and how we should be able to speak and act..as a lady, you wouldn't last a day. they would have taken you into custody and probably raped you for the fun of it since you had such an 'attitude' thinking you had 'RIGHTS' of all things....but aside from that - us helping them out over there - we're doing it to save our own people. if the USA was all a bunch of pacifist blithering idiots they'd have overrun us already. - thank god we elect leaders that aren't wussies .  |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
lmao just because you can't grasp the concept of this war, doesn't mean the rest of us don't get it  |
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Date: 3/19/2003 7:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 15228
Goodness, the hysteria!! You'd think we were the ones being bombed. Grow up people, get a grip. This is reality, it isn't pretty, it isn't only about stock and bonds and your 401k. WE aren't the only people in this world who deserve to live in freedom. The Iraqi people deserve a chance and we are giving it to them, it will now be up to them how they want to live, but it won't be under the boot of Saddam any longer you can count on that. |
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Date: 3/19/2003 7:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
"Just remember, We The U.S.A. DOES NOT have U.N. backing on this. And eventually, SOMEONE SOMEWHERE.."blah blah blah...read the news before you speak - we have 35 publically, 15 privately (at last count) in our coalition...even FRANCE is saying they will support us. sounds like someone is having an anxiety attack..so mentioning france and germany shows that you have no grasp on the REALITY of this situation..of course we will not bomb them..but yes, there are other countries on the list of ones that need their terroristic dictator overthrown..N.Korea in specific. "You support your husband going overseas even if he doesn't fully understand the reason why? Or yourself? I am not saying that you don't" quit speaking for other people, you're the one with blinders on wondering why they can't see the light - oh wait, you think you can... |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 48129
Everyone has a right to an opinion, I do not agree with your opinion but it is your voice. This is not about oil, its far from that. The military is attempting to prevent future "9/11" events from occuring again. I have read that the US has backing from 45 nations in support of this war. This war was inevitable.  |
Date: 3/19/2003 7:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 19092
But you did say "Black Gold", that does imply "oil". This is not about oil, it's about evil. A great and terrible evil. Should we wait like we did in WWII until millions are dead?? All it takes for evil to succeed in the world is for good men to do nothing...War is ugly because evil is ugly. I support our president and our troops 100% !!!!  |
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Date: 3/19/2003 7:59:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 49101
Big Tex, think about what you saying?!?!? You really THINK that this will end Iraq??? Heather, you as well??? Why don't we take care of our own FIRST. Call me a "weakling" or whatever you want. This is what I know, I never wanted this war, I think it is pointless to go in and DESTROY a country so that we can build right back up again, and create more little, "Saddam's" and "Bin Ladens". It is a LOAD. TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES FOR A CHANGE. We do NOT need to be over there. No matter what I say, If you don't agree with me, you will never see it my way, and if I don't agree with you, I will never see it yours. I DO know what the woman go through in those countries. The rapes, athe public humiliation. BUT, I DO NOT support us Going in and walking out, leaving everything just as it was, so we go in again ten or fifteen years later. It is a TOTAL CROCK. |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:02:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 49101
I support our Troops, and I pray that they come back safe, I DO NOT support your bloodthirsty president. Heather, I have not Talked Down to YOU, if you want to have a discussion with me, do not talk down to me. |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:03:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 49101
Um, Kelly, I hate to break this to you, but we already were bombed. By a few big airplanes, remember? |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
i THINK you must not be reading a word i'm saying..i said..of COURSE it will NOT end with iraq..you're stupid if you think it will - we are to rid the world of people like osama and saddam..and there are several more to GO....N. Korea will probably be next --and we NEED to continue until we annihilate anyone and everyone that would do harm on a mass scale if they could (like 9/11). we're not creating more saddams and bin ladens..we're destroying them all.....we are taking care of our own FIRST..we're taking care of them BEFORE another 9/11 happens..and if we'd done this 3 years ago - and ousted saddam and killed bin laden then..it wouldn't have happened. we needed a wake up call about evil in the world..we got it, and it was tragic. some of us woke up...some of us didn't. we're not destroying a country, we're destroying a regime..and if everyone had thought 'take care of our own' during WWII hitler might still be gassing jews....(or his descendants would be...) |
Date: 3/19/2003 8:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 1334
I have many relatives in the military and am very sad that I had to say good bye and one that hurt really bad was when my sons father called to tell him good bye, but with all that said I am glad we have gone in so maybe this time we can take the idiot out for good. he had a choice and plenty of warning. He uses his own people as shields, hj=e tourchers his own people. he is an evil evil man. when your own people secretly back an attack on thier land it says something. they deserve to live a life with out fear of this idiot. I pray my family and my sons father return home safely, however when they signed the contract they did they new the possabilities of what could lie ahead for them. My ex husband is very proud to fight for his country, and I am proud to say that he was my husband. So here is good bye to Sadam and wishing our American Soldiers home safely. ...  |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
"Um, Kelly, I hate to break this to you, but we already were bombed. By a few big airplanes, remember" derrrrrrrrr...what's not making sense here.....you recognize that we were attacked..but don't see the need to insure it doesn't happen again? |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 16538
OMG WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS? We are taking care of ourselves by elimanating Saddam Osama etc etc. You think Bush is bloodthirsty? You think he is going to watch CNN snicker when a bomb hits a bunker and go "hehe people die"!! You don't even have the slightest logic to say he is bloodthirsty. God you sound like my hysterical 75 year old grandma. |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:11:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 49101
No, I disagree, (of course) there comes a time when you have to stop and take care the eggs in your own basket. And we got plenty of 'em in America. We are taking away from HealthCare, Education, Childcare, and SEVERAL other Government funded programs to fund this WAR. We need to take care of our OWN for a change. I am not saying put our heads in the sand, but I am saying, Let the rest of the world bury themselves for a while. But no, The American Way is the Only Way. Everybody has to be Just Like Us. Now yeah, that is Freedom for ya'. McCarthyism has already begun. And we will tear eachother apart before all is said and done. |
Date: 3/19/2003 8:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 43250
Ok if we knew what was going to happen on Sept 11th 2001, lets say a month before would you have supported us going to war with the Taliban if the govt did not tell us everything they knew? Do you know everything the Govt knows? As for this "Doesn't he know that MEN AND WOMEN YOUNG AND OLD, CHILDREN AND BABIES, MOTHERS AND FATHERS, DIE in a WAR???" Dont you know that Saddam kills men and women young and old, children and babies, mothers and fathers. Isn't that bad? Or do you not care about the Iraqi people?  |
Date: 3/19/2003 8:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 20750
this war sucks & that's all I can say! People are going to die! So what if not american! War! what is it go for? Nothing! What ever happend to Tho shall not kill? but it's ok now! Right!  |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:14:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 49101
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! Take care of ourselves! BY GUARDING OUR BORDERS! I live in Florida, and you know, a group of Cuban men got off a boat just a few weeks ago, and waltzed right on to American soil without a second glance. So, WHO ELSE is doing this??? WE DON'T KNOW, because all of our guys are in the DESERT! |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
no the american way isn't the only one - everyone would like freedom but not everyone has it. that doesn't mean everyone doesn't deserve it. |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 16538
This action is taking care of ourselves. Do you realise what another major terrorist attack would do to our economy. We would hardly have a heathcare, childcare, etc etc to worry about. You are living in a sheltered hysterical life. Taking care of ourselves isnt just domestically. So are you saying you want our school children to have new books over Iraqi civilians lifes? That sounds pretty darn selfish. |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
1/2 of our army is there..1/3 of our jets..1/2 of our marines.......do you know the figures ? obviously not. maybe if people quit HIRING the illegal immigrants..we wouldn't have to worry about them coming over in droves - but that is another issue - and if YOU know about the 5 cubans..then that means we must have caught them..right? |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
besides, if you want to worry about muslims..we have plenty of them already here..it's not the people we are after - it is the mindset of the terrorists - |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
exactly big tex - look at how many airline jobs alone have been lost over the 9/11 attack. and the cost of the cleanup efforts..it through our economy into such a downward spiral - most every state govt has had to make cuts .(many jobs lost..many things not funded..many agencies consolidated)...you're right that our economics doesn't need it again. |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 43250
So what you are saying is don't attack a country if we know they are going to attack us. Yep that is protecting the American people. Thank God our President IS willing to protect us! |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:22:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 49101
I have to go to wrok in four more hours, and I haven't slept yet. I am sure probably won't, but I should at least try, SO, don't stop posting comments, debate amongst yourselves, I will be back tomorrow night to continuew leading my "Sheltered Hysterical Life". Or as I like to say, speaking my mind, which is still legal in this counrty isn't it??? |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 16538
I never doubted the legality of your hysteria or freedom of speach. Maybe you need to get some sleep before you start debating again. |
Date: 3/19/2003 8:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 30986
I'm with kelly, Watching my husband leave, I never once thought about him dying. I've not cried my heart out tonight over it. THANK you so much for telling me that people die in a war. *slaps forhead* I'm such an idiot! *note sarcasm*  |
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Date: 3/19/2003 8:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
yes speak your mind it is a good thing. hopefully at usm we can agree to disagree and it won't split us up too bad like it did around 9/11. |
Date: 3/19/2003 8:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 59418
This isn't about oil Miss C. Whilst i think war is the only option, i wish all these soldiers and innocent people didn't have to die. It's such a waste of life. I just pray that it finishes quickly. metal princess  |
Date: 3/19/2003 9:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
...I don't buy the War for Oil theory...however, when you consider that the very FIRST move into Iraqi territory by land forces was a large US Coalition Armoured force heading, at speed, towards the Iraqi Oil Fields (source can be found on Debka news-site), then one must wonder...  |
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Date: 3/19/2003 9:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 15228
How about if you look at it this way; Given the massive defections and surrenders already occuring, don't think of this as invading Iraq, so much as a huge hostage standoff, in which we're trying to arrest or kill the bad guy before he can kill the hostages. Does that help? I mean, as long as we don't gas the whole lot of em as Russia did, we should end up saving a whole lot of hostages. |
Date: 3/19/2003 9:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 61901
Wait! You said Bush is a Tyrant? Blood Thirsty? If I were you... I'd be careful! I dont think tyrants allow people to say stuff like you have. The men in black may pay you a visit.  |
Date: 3/20/2003 1:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 55967
A.S., I read about that. The purpose was to secure the fields so the Iraqi military could not ignite them. It was not so we could take control. ~GypsyHawk~  |
Date: 3/20/2003 4:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 30747
War is hell. I don't agree with the war but I have no choice but to support our country in it's decision. What SOME people don't seem to understand is that just because you FEEL it is wrong, that we are too dumb to understand it. LOL I guess they have all the answers.  |
Date: 3/20/2003 8:30:00 AM
From Authorid: 54532
War sucks. Can't argue with that but sometimes people just cannot hold their emotions and war is how they lash out.  |
Date: 3/20/2003 8:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 17204
Worthless? You sound so unapriciative. Maybe you should look to other perspectives. Of course it's sad, but worthless? These men and women put their lives on the line for you, and you call it "worthless" ouch. Second, don't blame this on oil, there is much more to it than oil. And you know what else, yes this is how we end an attack that happened to us on 9/11. Wouldn't be horrible if we just let this go and then a year latter we got ANOTHER brutal attack, we NEED to take care of the problem now. Wow....thats all I can say.  |
| Date: 3/20/2003 8:43:00 AM ( Admin-JGB ) well this worthless cause isn't probably useless to the iraqi people that can someday live free of FEAR of their own leader... you speak of hearing the cries of people in the streets, imagine the cries of the people being tortured by this man for YEARS... imagine the cry of the widow as her husband has been murdured by this man... imagine the cries of the parents as a child is taken and tortured to get information etc from the parents... then tell me this is a worthless cause... |
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Date: 3/20/2003 2:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
Is that right GypsyHawk?? Sorry...I thought this campaign was to oust Saddam, remove the threat of WMDs and secure a free democratic rule of Iraq. I must have been mistaken. Or is Oil a factor as well...hmmmm...must be huh?? Why is securing an oil supply so important it warrants being the very first mission of this conflict?? |
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Date: 3/20/2003 6:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 16538
Because it is a major part of Iraq's economy and is needed to help rebuild Iraq. |
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Date: 3/20/2003 9:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
Well, who wants oil wells blown and burning? I can see where they are coming from. One, it is bad on the environment. Two, it is bad for the economy even of the Iraqi people, whom we have not targeted. Three, the huge, black smoke can cause a screen against targets. Four, the Iraqi army would be doing it out of spite. Five, how would it look if we went in, took Saddam, took his regime out, freed the Iraqi people, then said, "hey everybody, see? We just wanted the bad guys out! Nothing else! What? All those oil wells burning like hellfire and causing economic backsliding for the Iraqi's and environment chaos? Oh. Well, that wasn't our mission." That wouldn't look too good, huh? ~GypsyHawk~ |
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Date: 3/20/2003 10:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
...and which main International Oil Conglomerate recently stepped up to the plate and said "Yes, we will trade Oil with you when Saddam is ousted and the Oil Supply is back in your hands"?? |
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Date: 3/20/2003 10:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 43250
French and Russian oil companys have billion dollar contracts with Iraq. So that would be the International Oil Conglomerate's. |
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Date: 3/20/2003 11:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
Even if we did make new deals with the Iraqi people on oil after we oust the current regime, what's wrong with a win/win situation? ~GypsyHawk~ |
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Date: 3/21/2003 12:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 57404
I heard that once Saddam and his regiem (?) is out of there. The Goverment said the oil will go up on the auction block, and basically we right a check for some odd trillion dollars to the people and they can rebuild their cities and be free. I agree with GypsyHawk. There is nothing wrong with a win win situation. Of course the news is always changing, so I could be mistaken too. lol God Bless |
Date: 3/21/2003 2:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 46565
I agree with the poster. This is not a humanitarian effort. The Iraqi's are just switching oppressors, instead of being oppressed by Saddam Hussein they will be oppressed by the US government. Yipee! Meanwhile, we in the US are deluged with war coverage and called unpatriotic if we disagree that Bush's efforts are disgenuine. Taxpayers will foot the 100 billion dollar plus bill for the war and in return all we get is a warm fuzzy feelings of patriotism, while Bush and his friends make millions of the oil contracts divied up after we take over.  |
Date: 3/21/2003 9:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 19345
I understand no one wants war, but is it better to go on living with terrorist attacks, and living in fear or finially putting an end to it once and for all?  |
Date: 3/22/2003 11:42:00 AM
From Authorid: 51979
When will all of these non educated protesters stop and think about it. Bush isn't in it for oil. Peole die in war for a greater cause, usually to SAVE MORE PEOPLE. You make there deaths sound so meaningless. But it is not. Go watch the news for a couple hours, you seem to neeed it. Sounds like you are another brainwashed citizen who wants change but when asks how says, "Well I don't know, just not how it is now." Jeez, You have a better way of doing this? AMERICA IS DOING DARN WELL RIGHT NOW. MAYBE WE SHOULD GIVE OTHER PEOPLE THE CHANCE TO LIVE!  |
Date: 3/26/2003 12:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 61104
I agree totally on this and I have also had nightmares about this war!! At this poitn it is not about supporting our president it is about supporting our troops. I am so angry at ur president and I am ashamed to be an american if it means that we have to support him. I thin that the president is just a little boy just desparate for his daddy's approval. Other things I think of him cannot be spoken on this website but you can only imagine. He is an egotistical power hungry rodent.  |
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