Date: 5/6/2003 1:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 3688
lol i love this :P and dang i reallyyyy needed a good laugh   |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 4614
Good...I'm glad you understand...  |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
We did not force you to start smoking you did that all on your own adn if you are so worried about what it is costing you then quit...it is not any harder then not buying them. And I hate to tell you this but when someone is smoking a ciggerette it is not teh parent's fault if they put it down and a child does not see it nor it is the child's fault it is the smoker's responsibility. It all boils down to taking responsibility. You chose your habit now live with it  |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:19:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica what you think is not valid you don't smoke.  |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
I do smoke and I agree with Jessica  |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 47699
'face'...darned typos  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 47699
Azairyia, you said a mouthful here, my friend. As a smoker, I agree with every single word of it. It's best that we just face it. We're demons and we are to be exorcized from the fact of this Earth. |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
maybe you should pick up a heroin habit, you might get more respect  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:22:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Good for you keth |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:23:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Base and I would have a better chance with no cost out of my pocket for my health care to beat that addiction too. |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 14754
LOL @ Base..  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
Ph yea well I did smoke and I quit so does that make it more valid??? Or does it make me a hypocrite cause I used to pump my body full of teh poisions I want to now avoid??? It is very simple do not buy the ciggerettes... I did it and it worked. Sure I wanted one for a while but it was over really quick. I did this to improve my health just like I did alot of other things. I quit eating meat for the most part at elast all red meat and I eat alot of chicken and fish. I do not want to be forced to breathe in smoke if I have chosen not to smoke and should not have to. If you did not drink you could not be tied down and have a beer poured down your throat so why should I or anyone else have to breathe in the poisons coming from your mouth and your ciggerette? |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
Seriously name one GOOD thing that comes from smoking, lung cancer?nope, yellow teeth? nope, little burn holes in your clothes, couch, car, etc, nope... unless you SELL cigarrettes and are lining your pockets with cash nothing good comes from smoking, and it is derned near impossible to quit... |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 53961
I quit 20 years ago and now can't stand to be around it. Passing through smoke sets me into coughing, hacking and phelming. My mother was diagnosed in 1988 with lung cancer. It took her hair, weight, strength, dignity and life, six months after she was diagnosed and had gone through chemo and radiation. It's not worth it. Don't make your family be subject to watching you go through this torture. It is enevitable. Not many slip by the horrors of cancer and/or lung disease, as long as they continue to smoke, dip or chew. Second hand smoke harms others, especially children, pets and is hard on computers and everything in its' path, as well. Why do we say anything? It's because we care and we may have been there and done that or know someone who is or was.  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
that isn't the point Az, buildings are PUBLIC smoking is a PERSONAL choice, and just like religion and sexuality we shouldn't force it upon others |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:27:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica simple solution YOU have a choice not to enter a building where you know smoking is allowed. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 47699
Base, it's been determined that it's easier to quit heroin than kick the nicotine habit. Keth, you're right. It's darned near impossible to quit. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
I'm down to one every two weeks or so... |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
Oh ok so if I want to go to a restaurant that has smoking then I cant because you have more rights then I do? |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
Quitting is all about will power if you put your mind to it you will be able to it all boils down to whether or not you REALLY WANT to quit.. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 14754
what if you have to go into that building? |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 14754
yep..it's just like drug use..alcohol abuse and weight loss...do you want it bad enough? |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
Name one good thing that comes from being overweight Kethria, maybe we should tax overweight people's food to pay for their health care also. Losing weight is all about willpower also Jessica, shall we crucify fat people too? |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:33:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Paula, the general population does not care what a smoker goes through, or what it is doing to them health wise as long as it's not done around them. I am sorry that you lost your mother and I have seen within my own family what smoking does. The facts are 99% of smokers are unable to quit. If they could there wouldn't be a problem. I am not looking to hurt anyone else. They took it out of the workplace and public buildings. They allowed it to continue in bars and in privately owned restaurants. NOW starting in July here THAT won't be available. I am sure that it was asking to much to be able to go and enjoy a meal as a smoker in a little mom and pop restaurant. It's not like the non-smokers don't have 60 other locations to choose from besides those one or two little places that allow it. People are becoming ridiculous about it. The smokers might as well crawl under a rock, but I suspect that people will just whine about the smoke wafting from underneath it. |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 58078
I agree that there are things that have gotten way out of hand with smoking. I smoke but I dont smoke when I'm at work or around certain people out of respect for them. I dont smoke that much.  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:34:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica why can't you accomodate me? I HAVE to accomodate you so why can't we have our places to go where we can smoke without listening to it. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 14754
Base...Some people do crucify fat people.. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
No we should crucify fat people because their eating does not effect you...however when I get lung cancer because of someone smoking around me that is going to effect me. The truth is smoking is a choice every person makes and if I choose not to I should not have to smoke secondhand from someone else blowing it in my face and if teh cost alone is not enough to make you quit what about the health risks and the way it makes you smell? I want to be as healthy as I can and I choose not to have smoking be a part of my life and as long as it is a public place it should not be permitted. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
****should not crucify |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
If I smoked maybe I'd quit |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:41:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica please. To spend a half hour in a restaurant with people smoking across the room once a week is NOT going to give you lung cancer. THIS is exactly what I am talking about with people being ridiculous. I can totally understand not wanting to be subjected to it constantly on a daily basis. ONE TIME for a short period of time is not doing anymore harm to your lungs that breathing in the car exhaust from the millions of cars polluting our air everyday. |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 30264
mcdonalds is more unhealthy than smoking
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 16845
Ok ya know....I wasn't going to reply here....But then I saw the resturant comment and all and I have to....there will most likely always be a smoking section in a resturant unless of course the owner wants to suffer the loss of money and make it a non smoking facility....on one side....your just there for an hour or so....so smokers COULD just wait until they got to their car/home before lighting up....BUT....ME as a NON SMOKER....CHOOSE....yes I CHOOSE to walk into that resturant KNOWING there will be people smoking in there....now if I CHOOSE to do this can I really blame the dangers of second hand smoke on the smoker?  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
Oh yea youre right it is ok to breathe in second hand smoke as long as it is only once or twice a week right? well lets multiply that by the 20 or 30 people who are smoking teh restaurant times 2 then it is like I am smking 6 packs a week |
Date: 5/6/2003 1:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 33925
I guess I am riding the fence on this one..LOL..I TOTALLY get what you are saying Az..totally..I am a smoker..have been off and on since I was 17..I love it when people say things like.."dont buy cigarettes"..If ONLY it were that easy! LOL Once addicted its darn near impossible to quit..Yea it takes willpower..Not all of us have enough willpower. I did a few times..quit once for 14 months..was doing great..Until the day my Father died..of Emphazema..yep..I walked out of the hospital and lit up a smoke..go figure. The thing is..We KNOW the risks, we know the dangers, but the addiction is far greater than what we know..obviously..we are still doing it right? On the other hand..I TRY very hard to respect the non smokers around me..I dont smoke where I am not supposed to..I will not light up if someone tells me it bothers them..I will chew gum instead..afterall..Its bad enough I am ruining MY health..I dont want to take anyone else down with me.  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
McDonalds food does not pollute teh air and does not cause lung cancer,emphysema,pnuemonia,bronchitus etc. And if my son is with me he may not get cancer but he does get bronchitus and ear infections when he is around someone who smokes |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:47:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica I have no idea where you are. However where I am you cannot smoke in restaurants in general. You CAN smoke in the little mom and pop restaurants that are privately owned. Would it kill you to go to the Olive Garden down the road and breathe in your clean air and let me and those non-smokers that choose to go, to Vinny's restaurant and have a cigarette with our after dinner coffee Is that asking to much? |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
Well I know for a fact it is possible to quit without the aid of anything else but will power it has been almost 7 years since I quit smoking and I have absolutely no desire for another ciggerette ever |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
Well what bothers me about this is the fact that your after dinner ciggerette is interfereing with someone else's dinner. And I am in Florida there is still smoking in some restaurants and other public places like theme parks and bars and such and the incident where my son got burnt was at a theme park. It really irks me that you say we should watch our kid I was watching him he was walking with me and he ran into teh ciggerette because the person who was smoking was walking in a crowded area with a burning ciggerette. This is not likew we were on a street and my kid was running around not listening he was right beside me. Another time at a theme park some retard put a ciggerette in the trash can and started it on fire. That could have caused a big problem if it had not been reported and taken care of immediately. And how about we start talking about teh wild fires we had here in 1998? MOst of those were started by you guessed it ciggerettes that somebody threw out a car window. So there are millions of acres burned because of your right to light up in public |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:56:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica you are 27 years old. What did you smoke for a few years? My grandfather smoked 3 packs a day for 40 years. He quit and STILL has cravings every single day of his life. There are people that are dying of cancer, emphysema and various other health related issues because they smoke and they STILL smoke. It couldn't be because they CAN'T stop would it? No, Jessica is the divine all knowing ex-smoker. You don't need anything but your willpower. OMG imagine that one. A whole bunch of people that died from smoking could have been saved if only they knew the secret to beating it was willpower! |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
And they say this year we could have the same thing happen because the area is very dry so how about all those people who lost their homes? Still think smoking is not hurting anyone? |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 53961
There are medical reasons why some people can't keep weight off. I gained five pounds overnight and after an oral diuretic and a shot of diuretic, I didn't lose a pound. I have congested heart failure. My heart won't pump fluids as it should. Some have thyroid problems which makes them gain weight. I have lost 45 lbs in last two years and now won't budge. Very frustrating. I need to get more off. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
I started smoking when I was 12 |
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Date: 5/6/2003 1:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
OK well how about my stepdad he was smoking since he was like 15 and he quit just a few years ago...he was smoking for like 40 years he did it without anything. Both of my parents quit drinking cold turkey I am not saying there will be no effects no withdraw what I am saying is it is possible if you want it bad enough |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 53961
One last word then I have to go... Please, think of your family if not yourself. If you want to quit, you can. Get rid of everything in your home and car that relates to smoking and don't allow others to smoke there as well. Take care. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:01:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
HE ran into the guy with the cigarette holding your hand walking into a crowded area. Would seem to me that it still wasn't the smokers fault. It makes total sense to me to persecute a WHOLE group of people because of the stupidity of a few. It's a wonder we don't start that method with everything stupid people have ever done that has caused chaos. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:03:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
So we stop public smoking because it started a fire and people lost their homes. Okay I don't ever want to see another person in a public park, campgrounds, heck even in your backyard barbecuing or roasting marshmellows because you might be an idiot and start the whole world on fire. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
Yes you are right it is my fault I should have known he was going to run into the ciggerette...makes so much sense to me...Maybe I should be put in prison for my neglect...matter of fact since there are smokers there my kids and I should not go. Maybe I should not go out to eat or to the park either. God forbid someone actually take responsibility for their own actions. I mean who in their right mind knowing children are around would smoke a ciggerette and hold it at the level of a child? |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica nicotine is the most ADDICTIVE substance on the planet. YOU are NOT the majority of people. IF it were that easy to quit smoking NO ONE would smoke. PERIOD. It is THAT cut and dry. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
I am done you are soooo right you should be able to smoke every where you go and we as non-smokers should just have to deal with the after effects |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:07:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica it could have been a pen, but since it was a cigarette let's drag the guy over and burn him at the stake. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:10:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
So he should take responsibility because YOUR kid walked into his cigarette? I am sure he was looking around all sides of him to KNOW that your kid was about to run into him. YOU can't even see how ridiculous that is. I have never intentionally burned anyone and have always been careful of where my cigarette is in my hand.....guess what I have had people BUMP into me and my cigarette hit them. So THAT is my fault that THEY weren't watching where THEY were going. So because people can't watch where they are going I should not be able to smoke OUT IN THE OPEN? That makes sense.....It's all about persecuting the smoker. |
Date: 5/6/2003 2:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 53284
Smoking is a tough issue. I'm a non smoker. I've never liked the smell. Where I work there are several smokers. They take breaks and stand outside smoking. When they come back inside they reek. It is then unpleasant to be near them. So we all pretend that we can't smell them. Hopefully the next generation will be a little wiser about smoking and not start. Personally I can't understand why tobacco is not regulated by the FDA since it is an addictive drug. I'd be willing to bet that smoking kills more people in the US then all the "illegal" drugs combined.  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:16:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica where did I say that you should have deal with anything? You are the one that is insistant upon blaming everything on a smoker. Because a fire started, because the trash got on fire, because my kid ran into someone with a cigarette, because of this that and the other thing. There is not one smoker here that is saying we should be able to smoke ANYWHERE we want to and you should just deal with it. My post doesn't even say that. It's the ridiculous nature people that smoke are being treated. We have been forced to accomodate YOU the non-smoker. WE have done this. I don't think that it is asking too much to accomodate us. YOU the ex-smoker don't have to be there. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 47699
Azairyia, I'm following this post and I'm still behind you 100%. There are those who would label us subhumans. If they're so concerned about their lungs, why don't they stop driving and rally the EPA to enact laws to stop people from operating vehicles which depend on gas combustion engines? I think it's hypocritical to want to blame smokers for everything while they drive in traffic every day of their lives. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:26:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Paula, I have cleaned everything out and done it MANY times, so have my parents. My father landed in the hospital BOTH times he tried to quit and the third time he almost landed there but started back up again. My father has a deep psychological addiction...as MOST smokers do. The last time I tried to quit I sat in a smoking cessation class and bawled my eyes out. I was an emotional wreck before even attempting. It is not as cut dry and MANY people. |
Date: 5/6/2003 2:27:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Thanks Frank.. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 4614
There are a lot of things people can't do in public that they would like to...I don't mind adding this one to the list... |
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Date: 5/6/2003 2:36:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Lady Luck, I am much the same as you are. Heck I babysit a kid everyday whose mother prefers that she is not around smoke. So all winter long in my OWN HOUSE with 6 foot snowbanks up until about 3 weeks ago I went outside to smoke. It is not my desire to put everyone out just so I can have my cigarette. |
Date: 5/6/2003 2:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 56293
Well, first I'm gonna start off with the "Why don't you just quit?" remarks. It's an addiction. It HARD to overcome ANY addiction. Whether it be smoking, alocohol, eating, or the computer! Yeah, some people can quit "cold turkey" but not everyone can. Remember, we aren't all the same. Oh let me say this now, This part is out to all the people saying "Just quit." Everyone has someone type of thing that they can't give up. And to some people, that is smoking. If someone told you everyday that you couldn't eat that favorite food you like, then you'd be upset too. Now on to the subject of this post. People complain about the cigarette smoke. .but what about all that other pollution in the air??? I don't see people complaining bout that all the time. There are plenty of resturants where people can go that are non-smoking. To the non smokers who have fit about the smokers. . .You feel that your needs should be pleased (no smoking in public areas) what about the needs of the smokers?? Aren't you being a bit selfish???? By walking by a room or walking by a person who is smoking once in awhile, isn't going to give you cancer. You more likely to catch a cold than to get cancer from the person...  |
Date: 5/6/2003 3:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 57404
Great Post! I agree. I am a smoker, I quit and started back up 2 years later. Not everyone is the same, nor does everyone have the same will power. It is very hard to quit and I find it unfair how smokers are treated. The pollution in the air, the foods we eat that are processed, chemicals added to soda etc. We injest this stuff and it is bad for us, anything anymore is bad for us. lol
God Bless  |
Date: 5/6/2003 3:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 45948
I am a smoker and I agree with you 100%. Everyone wants to cry about how second-hand smoke gives you cancer, but so does being out in the sun for that matter. If you're going to get cancer, you're going to get it, regardless of how careful you are.  |
Date: 5/6/2003 4:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 13283
Smoking is disgusting ! All you want is the nicotine , right ? Chew some nicotine gum . You cant give anyone cancer that way . I agree with Sundance Kid . Razzy aka  |
Date: 5/6/2003 4:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 36956
Thank you for this post AZ you hit on something that has been making me mad for along time now! I am also a smoker. Where I live, almost all resteraunts, public places, and even the bars are off limits to smokers. Talk about making you feel like you have the plague. I agree with everything you have said so far. As for the child running into the cigerette comment, it could have been the sharp point of someones umbrella for petes sake. I dont know how my smoking outside in a public place is harmful to someones health. Do you think about that when your burning your garbage(like syrafoam)outside. Now thats harmful to breath in. As far as quiting...great for the people that have done it. I have tried, didnt work! Great post*hugs*  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 4:33:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Now you see the major part of the problem with a non-smoker and a smoker is the non-smokers lack of knowledge on the addiction. It's all well and good that everyone including the smoker knows all the health risks, but WHAT do you really know about the addiction. It is quite apparant several know very little. |
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Date: 5/6/2003 4:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 53900
I have one more question for you...did you know of the health risks when you started? Did you know about the restrictions when you started? Did you really think that it was going to become easier on you as a smoker? And as for my son running into the ciigerette he was not running when he got burnt I say he ran into it it was more like the person was walking and so was my son adn tehy had their ciggerette down very low and it brushed my son it was neither their fault no my son's I did not get upset about it I was more worried about my son who was screaming hysterically adn teh person who was smoking did not even stop to see if he was ok but tehy did look back. Oh well he is fine now...you know what I know I am not teh only one who thinks this way but I guess I am the only one who will say I do. You can call me selfish all you want and maybe I am but I do not want to breathe in your smoke. Like I said you chose to start smoking nobody forced you to so DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!! |
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Date: 5/6/2003 5:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Jessica yep I did, I was a stupid CHILD when I started. I don't think that you will find many smokers in this world that will tell you they wished that they hadn't started the habit or that they have recommended that someone start up. I wear the stigma of that everyday when I have to plan to have my cigarette. I pay for it with my own money out of my own pocket, not only for the habit itself but for the "possibility" that I get cancer, emphysema or suffer from some ill effect from my choice, but the health care system robs a smoker more when they make it impossible for us to afford ways to quit the habit and our insurance companies won't cover it. Our poor choice is held against us every single day. They have discriminated against us within our taxing and they admit to doing it. Didn't you know that we are making up for September 11th with a hike in taxes on cigarettes? Why? Because the addiction of a smoker is so reliable that they will generate more revenue in taxes on cigarettes than they would relying on the general people to pay their freaking taxes. <-----THAT is ridiculous. I have payed PLENTY for a bad choice that I made when I was a kid. I also was not implying that your son RAN into him as if he was running. I understood what you meant. You are making the choice to enter restaurants that have smoking sections so YOU DEAL WITH IT. |
Date: 5/6/2003 5:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
Dang straight! Oh preach it sister...preach it! In fact...what the hey AZA FOR PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD!!!! And yes...I'm a smoker too *smile*  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 5:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
...and whats more...it totally ticks me off when ill-informed people, though can't blame them as they are only swilling down negatively skewed media 'information', have a go at me about how much my smoking is costing the health system. Its obvious they haven't actually read any REAL cost analysis' which show that the average smoker not only FULLY pays for their habit by way of huge tobacco taxes, but also - on average - contributes 20% OVER and ABOVE that cost to the Health System...so in effect the smoker is helping to pay for all those NON-SMOKERS who require Health care. In fact, the section of the community to utilise the most Health dollars, yet contribute the less by way of taxes etc, are actually the HEALTH CONSCIOUS...the sporty ones who fill up A&E every Saturday and Sunday with sports related injuries. A bit of truth and actual facts might open a few eyes. Peace, |
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Date: 5/6/2003 5:30:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Thank you Agent Smith! I was looking all over for that exact information you provided....LOL! Seems a bit discriminatory but hey we are smokers, we don't have any rights...as if that hasn't already been made readily apparant. |
Date: 5/6/2003 5:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 10110
I agree with Jessica. Why should we pay for what you do? You are the one who chose to smoke, so why should we have to suffer for your mistake, by breathing in the smoke? It doesn't matter if we just go into a restraunt and only inhale some smoke, it adds up and adds up. My great aunt smoked and died from smoking at the age of 83. Three weeks later, her husband died from second-hand smoke. Smoke is just disgusting and I don't think I should have to deal with it just because the other person decided to smoke and then got into the habit of it. Is that my fault? I don't think so.  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 6:46:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Well I would consider 83 to be a good long life. Smoking...AND breathing in her own second hand smoke. How many years did she do this? No one told your Uncle to live with her and breathe in her second hand smoke, he made that choice also. And YOU have the choice not to walk into a restaurant that allows smoking. We don't have a choice where we smoke, THAT is chosen for us, so leave us alone where are allowed to do it. |
Date: 5/6/2003 7:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
smoking is one of those tough issues... you want to respect the people who don't smoke... yet you want to be respected yourself... you don't want to put people far out of thier way... but you don't want to go far out of yours to please the other non-smokers... so it's finding hte happy medium... what in life is the hardest thing to do  |
Date: 5/6/2003 8:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 39321
lol you shound like my mother.  |
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Date: 5/6/2003 9:49:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Midnightly exactly. Most smoker's will agree that they don't have a problem and understand that people that do not smoke, do not wish to be subjected to our smoking. But the necessity to rid of us from public view is becoming ridiculous. We were told we couldn't do it in public anymore and that only privately owned businesses could allow smoking. What people don't seem to understand is, you have a choice whether you HAVE to enter these places or not. The smoking is not happening in 95% of the restaurants and it certaintly doesn't take place in the major chain restaurants in the states that have these laws. It is your privately owned little pizza shops and family owned restaurants. Bars, excluding chains like that UNO's place and bowling alleys. You aren't going to walk into the doctor's office, the supermarket, the mall, Burger King, McDonald's, Wendy's, Toys R' Us, Walmart, the hospital, motor vehicle, your job, the dentist, Social Security Office, city hall, the police department, the fire department etc. Why do you NEED to go into a bowling alley, a bar, or a privately owned restaurant? Those are choices and you don't HAVE to subject yourself to them. We tread so much on your existance that we take away your ability to bowl and the ability to eat in 4 or 5 local restaurants out a possible 30 that offer a smoke free environment. And pardon me while I laugh at how health conscious a person is about breathing in smoke while they are busy killing their brain cells and toasting their liver in a bar. I can't even tell you the last time I walked into a bar of 30 or 40 people and saw more than two people that didn't smoke. So 38 of us should sit home so two people can have a smoke free bar? Why can't the non-smokers congregate and open up smoke free bars and leave us smokers to worry about dying from cancer and liver failure. We just really burdon non-smokers from getting on with their lives. |
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Date: 5/7/2003 9:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 18527
Because the minute someone opens a smoke free bar smokers complain about it! |
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Date: 5/7/2003 11:39:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Kethria maybe where you are, but not here, smoke free bars don't exist which is why the ban went further to include all the places that allowed us to still smoke there after the first ban. |
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Date: 5/7/2003 10:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 57404
About a year or so ago, I caught something on the news here in California, that they were wanting to pass a law to make it illegal to smoke in YOUR OWN HOME. The people trying to pass the law.. none smokers. There's a shock. LOL. Luckily the law wasn't passed. I've been reading the posts and understand the non-smokers points as well. But you know, if a place allows people to smoke, and you don't like it. Don't go into the place. It's that simple. I feel it should be up to the person who owns the business whether smoking is allowed or not. God Bless |
Date: 5/8/2003 9:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 24732
A good thing that comes from smoke is repelling mosquitoes. In some areas of the world, such as jungles, people purposly take up smoking for that reason.  |
Date: 5/8/2003 10:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 30051
Nice AZ!!! LMAO!! I rarely smoke in public. When I do I always get glared at. people also assume your a bad mother if you smoke. I smoke outside. Doesn't really matter though. People do treat you like a piece of dog poop if you are a smoker. I thought it was just me being paranoid..I guess not..Good post..You have a way with words *Hugs* Love ya girl  |
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Date: 5/8/2003 10:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 30051
Not everyone chooses to start smoking either! I didn't have the chance to NOT smoke. Long story. But again NOT EVERYONE CHOOSES TO START SMOKING. I choose to keep smoking. For that I am guilty. |
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Date: 5/8/2003 10:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 30051
After reading replies I have more to say. I don't think people should be allowed to smoke where there are children. At least not walk around in a crowd of people. That is just freaking RUDE! If someone burned my child like Jessica's situation. I would have bloodied there nose. Sorry that's the truth of it |
Date: 5/8/2003 10:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 57404
Coryann LMAO! I get those glares too, but I can't say on here what I do when they glare! LOL
God Bless |
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Date: 5/8/2003 12:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 30051
Also I think it should be ILLEGAL to smoke inside your house if you have children. I think it's child abuse to smoke with your kids in the house. JMO |
