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Date: 7/11/2003 4:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 62196
It's impossible to charge them with murder or child abuse, because the effects show up after a while ususually after they are a child, plus there is no way to tell if it was the smoke from that one parent(s) that did the "child" in. |
Date: 7/11/2003 4:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 46530
And if you started doing that you would then have to prosecute every person that drove their car within a three mile radius of that child, had a bonfire, so on and so forth. Almost everything we do these days has some side effect that kills people everyone would be in jail. Think about it. Even the clothes you wear were probably made in some south east asian sweatshop where children from the age of four work 16 hour shifts. The buildings we work in were made from steel, which is made in foundries producing so much CO2 its a wonder we have an ozone left!  |
Date: 7/11/2003 4:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 57830
Well, they seem smart, so i'm gonna agree with the people that have already replied, though i must say how irritating when people smoke. and no, it really isn't right  |
Date: 7/11/2003 7:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
actually just to let you know that was blown out of proportion, i dont smoke but i like the truth, second hand smoke doesnt kill anyone, these people either smoked themselves or they had breathing problems already, the smoke helped a lil but wasnt a direct kill  |
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Date: 7/12/2003 5:15:00 AM
From Authorid: 62196
Well if you were constinley around people (or a person) that smoked for a long period of time in your life it could effect you. |
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Date: 7/12/2003 7:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 22080
but its not a direct cause of death |
Date: 7/12/2003 10:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 48809
No, I don't think we should prosecute smokers for "second hand " smoke from cigarettes, cigars etc. unless we also do the same for the companies that own factories and plants who also pollute the air? This too is "second hand" smoke and I believe it is just as deadly or even more so than cigarette smoke. If we are going to be fair about ridding the world of "second hand" smoke , then it seems that we must include ALL sources and not just single out one group of people to discriminate against ...as the smokers have been !  |
Date: 7/12/2003 11:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 53900
Well I do agree it is wrong to smoke around your children even if it is in a different room I would not say they shuld be prosecuted. And btw I do not belive bonfires are nearly as hazordous as second hand smoke because ciggeretttes have tons or chemicals added to them. I can tell you an example why I do not belive in this my ex used to smoke aorund our kid and he was always sick(bronchitus, bronchialitus, ear infections even pnuemonia once or twice) well when he was eighteen months old his dad moved to North Dakota and he stayed here with me he did not get sick again until he went to visit his dad almost a year later. Then when he came home he quickly got better...after that he was ok for almost 18 moonths his dad came back down and got him and he smoked around him all the time he got sick then also and got better after returning home. There is no doubt in my mind that the smoking contributed to my son getting the ear infections and bronchitus etc. He and I had several arguments about him smoking around him and he always said well I do it in another room...that does not matter cause it still is breathed in it is not like the smoke can be contained in an imaginary bubble where just you breathe it in.  |
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Date: 7/12/2003 7:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
what about second hand hairspray? i mean that stuff can kill your lungs, thats why i never go into a bathroom after a female has just got done getting ready |
Date: 7/13/2003 12:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 17156
The one fact that I know about second hand smoke hasnothing to do with the adult smoking in front of the kids. I recently found out that smoking even away from the kids is bad (like outside) the smoke stays on your clothes in your hair and is a strong cause of childhood ear infections, and upper resp. infections. So just think if your child can get that sick from the smoke on your clothes what kind of effects will it have in front of or in the same room as your child. But no I don't think them being prosecuted is the answer. Then ever smoking pregnant woman would have to answer for it as well. Something should be done but it is the parents decision to stop, the child is truly the innocent here. I just honestly don't think the courts would bring up a case like this because it's not strong enough. But I do on the other hand hope that parents do get more aware. I use to smoke and I have two children I recently quit after my son was put on a nebulizer(SP?) for a week and my daughter developed an ear infection in both ears. The doc asked if I smoked I said outside never around the kids and thats when I found out about the ill effects of this. I may be stressed out and think i need s smoke but i know in my heart it's much better to not have it around the kids at all. If only I can convince my mother in law to stop. Love and Hugs,  |
Date: 7/13/2003 8:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 42945
my young grandaughter continually had chest infections and ear trouble, her mother smoked very heavy around her...her father used to smoke outside the house...now at the tender age of 2yrs old and numerous courses of anti biotics due to these continual bouts of chest infections she same into our care...we are now non smokers and have been for about 15yrs, she already had a very severe chest infection at the time and after clearing this bout of it, she began to thrive, no more infections and the childrens doctor we put her under had no doubt that she was actually passive smoking (second hand smoke)and after just on nearly 9yrs she went back to live with her dad, now his new woman smokes like a chimney stack and my grandaughter has had a cold on and off since she went up to her dad's and that was in January...so in my opinion and the doctors, it does cause problems...now as far as a child dying due to passive smoking, and it was proven, yes...but I think it would be hard due to the pollution that floats around in the air everyday....a good post hun  |
Date: 7/19/2003 4:18:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 52140
Thanks for your replies. I've been away on a mission trip so I didn't get to reply. You've mentioned some stuff I never thought about  |
Date: 7/20/2003 9:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 5892
I don't think it is asking to much for anyone to smoke outside the house and outside their vehicals to minimize the damage to others from second hand smoke, especially in regards to their children.An adult is capable of leaving when someone lights up in front of them, but children are kind of stuck in the circumstances . Because we are aware of the hazards of secondhand smoke, it is the very least you can do. I get even more upset when I see pregnant women smoking ! I believe it is more of a crime to subject your unborn child to cigarettes, alcohol or drugs.I was born with a heart defect that was attributed to my mother smoking while I was in her womb so it just chaffes my hide when I see this and I have to bite my tongue!  |
