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Date: 9/20/2003 11:35:00 AM
From Authorid: 52866
I think it's stupid...we're sposed to be going for UNITY, not SEPARATION. ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 12:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 10722
She had a point when she brought up the clubs aimed for other races, but make a 'caucasian club' and you receive major backlash for it. It's so typical.. ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 12:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 2030
I think It's all fair and good if there are other ethnic or cultural clubs. Being proud of who you are does not make one racist. ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 12:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 61999
I'm going to be foolish, and answer BEFORE I read any posts, heheh. (*wavies to Jestr, as I begin* "I'm back.")See, I can FEEL the distaste for the club because I am Black. I can feel it start. But then I think: This kid, she's right, you know? And I already like her because she went and joined the Gay-Straight Alliance Group -- something I'd do because I love gay men. When I was in HS, I used to go to the Latino meetings all the time. They'd look at me but I didn't care -- I like you and you can't make me stop liking you AND your culture, cabronecito. So, so long as she's inviting those that want to talk about "white" people -- I mean, whatever they're going to talk about, I dont know because EVERYTHING in this country leans towards whites so I'd like to know what, exactly -- then let it be. Good luck in getting people to accept it though, because in non-white's eyes, there are many things that aren't good when it comes to whites administrating their "White Pride" (Go ahead, come get me; I said it, lol). IMO, I don't care. I'm in NY; I'm engaged to a non-American, and I'm leaving this place in 6 years. ~~The Mighty DreamGyrl~~ ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 1:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 24732
Well I was in German club in high school, that was sort of like a Caucasian club, because there were only white people in that class. But instead of having any kind of race/"belonging" based clubs, maybe the clubs should actually focus on doing something. There are other worth while clubs where you actually do something like art club, FFA, or theater clubs... ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 1:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
To not allow a caucasion club but allow other clubs would be discrimination based on race and last time I checked that was supposedly illegal in this country. ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 1:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 56910
German clubs rock. Anyway I think that if these black, latino, and asian clubs are allowed at the school why not one dubbed "caucasion club". It doesn't mean the people who join are racist. And if its open for all races and ethnicities then why not? ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 2:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 51463
I think it's stupid to be discriminating against one club and allowing all the other clubs based on culture - but then again I also happen to think having the ethnic background clubs are kinda dumb in their own right and were going to stir up trouble no matter what they did. I'll stick to the Latin Club =-bootz-= ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 2:49:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
What surprised me was the reaction from the NAACP representative. I knew a caseworker for the NAACP a while ago and he helped me out of a tight situation in his official capacity. Being very, very white (and blond, no less) I was surprised when he did so. But he pointed out that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People needs to help ALL colors if they are to proclaim themselves dedicated to equal rights for everyone. Here's to Ron from NAACP! ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 4:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 56410
*sigh* We're not allowed to have clubs unrelated to academics. The most 'out-there' group we've got is Anime club. And thats Art + Japanese. I believe its FAIR for her to have her 'White Club' if everyone else has their club.. I don't believe its fair that people oppose it. I'd boycott the other clubs if I were her. ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 4:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 35160
i dont see what the big deal is, there are clubs for other races so why not a white 1. i say ppl need to grow up and leave that girl alone. ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 4:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 10722
The senior who commented (Clint Simons) reeks of ignorance. That was a foolish thing of him to say. ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 4:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 36967
I see nothing wrong with it. ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 7:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 17204
Look, there are clubs for other races and cultures so it's only fair for there to be one for her too. Its only EQUAL! ![]() |
Date: 9/20/2003 8:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
this is so racist ![]() |
Date: 9/21/2003 2:04:00 AM
From Authorid: 13119
I think she is a very brave girl. She is taking on the prejudices of a whole nation, she is taking on a subject that needs to be addressed. ![]() |
Date: 9/21/2003 6:27:00 AM
From Authorid: 28363
It's okay to be racist or race united as long as you are not a white devil ;p ![]() |
Date: 9/21/2003 10:35:00 AM
From Authorid: 49150
It should be fair for all ethnic groups to have their own clubs. If one race is excluded they ALL should be. Why is the white race of today still paying for what was done a hundred years ago. Some one give me one good reason why one race should be excluded from having a club when all other races can. ![]() |
Date: 9/21/2003 10:48:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
I agree with the author. If there are groups based on skin color then it is wrong. I do, however, think it is ok for people to have clubs for nationalities... like German, Italian, English, etc. But they should be open to others, for e.g. those who are learning the language, or to get some cultural education. If I was a foreign language speaker from another country, I'd want to talk to my own kind. But skin color! No! ![]() |
Date: 9/21/2003 6:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
I wouldn't worry about anything called the caucasian club unless they started donning white hoods and burning crosses in front of the other clubs' doorways. -ID- ![]() |
Date: 9/21/2003 8:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
It doesn't sound like she's trying to be racist or promote racism. There are as she said, other groups and Unions for other races and cultures, so she's entitled. ![]() |
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Date: 9/21/2003 9:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
There is nothing wrong with anyone starting a private club and making a "_________ Only" stipulation as to membership. There are clubs for gays, clubs for Tall people, Short people; Quilters; Numismatics; collectors clubs, awareness clubs; etc., and whatever interest you can think up, clubs. There should never be any objection to any PRIVATE, NON-tax funded, non-govermental supported or subsidized clubs. If club is a private organization, it is allowed to discriminate all it wants. It receives no help from the government -- including the schools -- and the government has no say as to how it runs its program. No one has a right to tell them how to lead their private organization. But, for example, if you have a club like the Boy Scouts who have access to public funding, and access to the schools for recruiting purposes. They want to have their cake and eat it too. They want the right to discriminate, yet they want us to support them. It doesn't work that way. If we support them, they need to abide by certain guidelines that befit a PUBLIC institution, one being NO discrimination. If they want to be able to discriminate, then we cannot -- and ought not -- support them one iota. The thing with this "Caucasian" Club is the way it is perceived by those who see it in the same kind of light as the "White only" "Aryan only" KKK or skinhead type of light; which it is not. I would have chosen a different name because of that stereotypical viewpoint of so many. I'd never start an "atheist only" club; for that would create such an outcry and it would just further seperate and alienate people. I'd call it a intellectual freethinkers society or some-or-other like that. :) ![]() |
Date: 9/21/2003 9:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
I'd like to add that I do not believe that there should be an all-out recruitment for this club ON SCHOOL PREMISES. ![]() |
Date: 9/22/2003 10:36:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
I agree with you that private clubs which pay their own way should have the prerogative of exclusion. But is that really the practice of America? Look at the Boy Scouts? If ever there was a government subsidized program, the BSA is one. Yet they are allowed to discriminate based on their principles of "morality". What are your thoughts on that? ![]() |
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Date: 9/22/2003 11:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
I DID address that somewhat about the BSA>>>>>"But, for example, if you have a club like the Boy Scouts who have access to public funding, and access to the schools for recruiting purposes. They want to have their cake and eat it too. They want the right to discriminate, yet they want us to support them. It doesn't work that way. If we support them, they need to abide by certain guidelines that befit a PUBLIC institution, one being NO discrimination. If they want to be able to discriminate, then we cannot -- and ought not -- support them one iota." >>>>> the most disturbing aspect is the BSA's denial of membership to boys...who do NOT acknowledge the existence of GOD. This sends a very clear and FALSE message that anyone can't be moral, honest, and a good leader, IF he doesn't have a god belief. The ACLU has argued that the Boy Scouts are a religious organization because membership is limited to boys who pledge a "duty to God", even if its primary purpose is not religious. Most importantly, it is using a school to discriminate against students based on religion. The Boy Scouts routinely pitch their programs to students in public schools across the nation. To add insult to injury, the armed forces recruiters in many states hawk their brand of bigotry with discrimination against gays and lesbians. ![]() |
Date: 9/22/2003 11:46:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
Well, that ought to teach me to read the whole darned post next time, eh? ![]() |
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