Date: 9/22/2003 4:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 61941
I think you have a little to much time on your hands.
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Date: 9/22/2003 4:55:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
Well, as a matter of fact....  |
Date: 9/22/2003 4:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 32854
i agree with devil dog!!! u have way to much time on your hands
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Date: 9/22/2003 5:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 2030
What countries exactly are we gobbling up? And if you find this mysterious corporation let me know. I'd like to buy stock in it.  |
Date: 9/22/2003 5:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
I don't think he's an evil tyrant. I think he has an impulse control issue... I wish we had gone about this war in a different way. I wish our troops could come home. But alas, wishing doesn't really do any good. All I do is email, tape redskins games and mail them, and hope  |
Date: 9/22/2003 5:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 13729
I think Bush is a liar who should be impeached for lying to the US citizens about a war that is in his best interests, not the American publics......Sending our troops off to their deaths so he and his buddies can reap millions of dollars.....He should be ashamed of himself.....  |
Date: 9/22/2003 5:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
Bush isn't the the 'doer' the real 'work' is done by his handlers. No president has really had any power. It's the shadow government... the backroom boys who own the big corporations, banks, etc. It's the same in Britain which is owned by the same people.  |
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Date: 9/22/2003 7:03:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
We gobbled up Afganistan, nor we're gobbling up Iraq. Even the Iraqi governing council which WE installed is urging the Bush Admin to speed things up towards sovereignty, and accused Bush of dragging his feet. |
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Date: 9/22/2003 7:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 62339
We only invaded Afghanistan (ran by al'queda) and Iraq (ran by evil insane dicataor and sons). That isn't exactly a basis for a conspiracy to take over the civilized world like the terrorists think we want to. Ritzbe, who cares if the motives he had for this war weren't real (i.e. weapons of mass destruction)? Suddam and sons were evil and we are bringing peace to an area that has strong anti-American feelings. Bringing the Iraqis freedom will make Mideasterners like us a little more. And Kethrina, how did we go about this war wrongly? Do you not think evil dictators that invade two countries (Iran & Kuwait) and try to assasinate our President should be killed? Do you not think his son that threw people head first into human meat grinders and other son that pulled girls out of school to rape them, should be murdered? Do you think only we should have the freedom to critisize and disagree with our Presidnet? Anti-war people make me so mad and they seem a little selfish to me. And that comment isn't aimed to anyone specifically. |
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Date: 9/22/2003 7:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 62339
1225-I'm glad the Iraqi governing council feels they have the freedom to accuse Bush of those things. I feel so happy for that country. |
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Date: 9/22/2003 7:35:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
"who cares if the motives he had for this war weren't real (i.e. weapons of mass destruction)?" how about all the dead soldiers and their families? Hm? How about the dead Afgans? The dead Iraqis? When did it become America's right to invade whomsoever we please, to assail ourselves upon a weak nation to impose our will on a sovereign people? When did it become our responsibility to police the world? Is that not the purview of the United Nations? (Yes, I'm being bombastic on purpose). |
Date: 9/22/2003 8:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 49076
It's called Builderbergs Society, after the first meeting that took place in the hotel by that name. It's a who's who list, pretty impressive actually...yes, both Georges are apart of it, along with Mr. & Mrs. Clinton, P.M. Tony Blair, and yes there are bankers, financiers, and large corp. CEO's etc. that belong to it. There goal is to take over the world, so to speak. If they want someone in a particular office, they get in no matter what, sound familiar?
It's been awhile since i've went in and did some reading on the site, actually a friend of mine, who's even more political than I am, told me of this society, and told me to look it up and start reading, I was AMAZED! I'll go back and see if I can find the website again, last I was in, the man who ran the site said that they (our govt.) was threatening to shut his site down. Give me a few and when I find the site, I'll send the addy.~Shaye~  |
Date: 9/22/2003 8:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Sorry to burst the bubble but...... there's no conspiracy to talk about.  |
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Date: 9/22/2003 8:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Speaking of those dead from the war.... think about those that were killed prior to the war by Saddam and his Regime, millions. Which is worse? I'd say the Iraqi's are much better of now and I'm pretty sure most of them realize it too now. |
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Date: 9/22/2003 8:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 49076
ok, found the sites the first one is: www.gvtc.com~jsearcy/ananews.htm, the second one is www.ezboard.com, makes for an interesting read. On the first site if you go down about a 1/4 of the way you will find your list that you were looking for. |
Date: 9/23/2003 2:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 4309
Afghanistan was about the 75 billion of the 500 billion dollar a year drug industry. 15 Billion of the 75 just will not cut it with the us since we let them bring it in through new york and washington.  |
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Date: 9/23/2003 2:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 4309
Illuminati silliness basically.. United Nations Aka the defeated evil Leage of Nations spawned to control the world but somehow happened anyway even though the same people causing all the wars, buying up banks, and recruiting now in your local colleges are behind it. If you ever become a president do not become a free mason. Guaranteed way to become impeached so to speak. |
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Date: 9/23/2003 3:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 4309
Hehe. The people we are using in the north easter part of Iraq (Not even really much of the muslim majority) are part of the Al-Quiada. Who do you think will rule the place afterwards? Check on who was not supposed to have illegal dealings with Iraqi oil(but he did anyway)but now its ok for him to do so at the tax payer expense to "Help" America get the oil to drive while retaining all the profit. Heh.. Life sucks in this world where our Government can use crop dusters and drop chemicals on people as a test (In America) and force them to sign non-disclosures.(Documented and sealed info hehe =P) They can Gas the Iraqi people from Iran and then later use footage of our own attacks on them, our "Tests" again as propaganda that Saddam did it lol.. Its funny really.. |
Date: 9/23/2003 6:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 53961
<sighs... Will it ever end?... Plzz...>  |
Date: 9/23/2003 8:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
It is unfair to say that Bush is going to war for personal gain. You don't know the Whole Story, the Media is not reporting the whole story because mainly the Intelligence, as well as The FBI, or CIA, the Military are not giving out all the information. Infact they should only give as few details as possible, for basically National Security and safety reasons. I agree we need to aviod war, when we can, but when we can't we need to send people over thier, for our safety. It looks like already some people have forgotten how horrible 9-11 was.  |
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Date: 9/23/2003 8:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
We will never forget how horrible 9/11 was Dptrs! So why aren't we going after the perpetrators. The real people behind the atrocity...Bin Laden, the Saudis..all of whom have definite links with the attacks? |
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Date: 9/23/2003 8:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
We are going after them. 9-11, is the main reason why Bush went after Afganistan and Iraq. We are going after Bin Laden, and SAudis. |
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Date: 9/23/2003 9:32:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
Bush himself said recently that there is no known link between 9/11 and Iraq. |
Date: 9/23/2003 10:04:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
"who cares if the motives he had for this war weren't real (i.e. weapons of mass destruction)?" Why not tell the truth then? You think he still had a good reason to go into Iraq, so why cover it with a lie?  |
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Date: 9/23/2003 10:25:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
Ha! Touche! IMHO Bush goes by the "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" philosophy. |
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Date: 9/23/2003 12:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
Dkptrs you say he's going after bin laden and the saudis? Where's the evidence? Bush himself hasn't even mentioned bin laden since 2002. The bin ladens were his business partners. Do you never read anything? If Iraq really had wmds, do you think he'd send troups over their without protective gear, let alone start a war? They're even using old vietnam rifles out there. There is no evidence of links to 9/11. Bush said so himself. They just didn't come out and say so... they let us put 2 and 2 together to come up with 5. Do you think sadaam will go the same way as bin laden? |
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Date: 9/23/2003 6:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 61941
Koolade, how old are you. Just to set you straight on your knowledge. From day one all Marines crossing into Iraq were at Mopp 2, )which is a Military term I really don't feel like explaining)Basiclly they had on a NBC Suit with the boots, Gloves and Mask by their side. They are not useing weapons from Vietnam. They are useing the M-16, in vietnam they we're using the AR-15 and the M-16A1. Sometime in the 80's the U.S. Military swiched to the M-16A2, though bares the same resemblence as th AR-15 and the the M-16A1 the most signicant difference would be the heat guards, and the compansator (flash surpressor), <----more military lingo I care not go over. To, all those who are complaining about the WoMD. Do you even care that they weren't found yet, I sure as heck do? Alot of people are asking the question "Where are they?" for the purpose of trying to prove President Bush Lied about the whole thing. I want to know "Where are they?" For the simple fact that they were there 12 yrs ago, and there is no proof of their destruction. Now that tells us two things,1) They were destroyed. Not likly, Saddam was to greedy and sinister for that, he would never just get rid of all those weapons, and 2) They are still out there and we have no Idea where they are. For all you know they can be buried in your back yard. So from know on instead of asking the QUESTION as an insult ask it cause you really want to know. |
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Date: 9/23/2003 8:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
My theory is he sold some of the WMD's. Saddam did destroy some of the WMD's... many who previously worked on him, claim he did this shortly before the war. Others are saying that he first started destroying them after Desert Storm. I believe there was and continues to be, a real market for those weapons. Saddam was slimy and greedy enough to sell them to anyone, regardless of their intentions for using them. |
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Date: 9/24/2003 9:13:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
I believe that they existed, they may still exist. Iraq had WMD because the United States armed Iraq, just like we armed the Taliban, and Bin Laden. But Bush was spoilng so for a war that he used evidence whch he knew (or, rather, a competant leader would) was questionable.
My favorite picture is the one of Saddam Hussein and Donald Rumsfeld smiling and shaking hands. |
Date: 9/24/2003 2:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 62289
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDD YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS , amen that the turth allright!! -the 13th magus  |
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Date: 9/24/2003 7:52:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
the 13th Magus... it's generally considered inpolite to type all in caps or to spread words out like thiiiiisssss. And while I'm happy about your enthusiasm (*in best Homner Simpson voice*woo-hoo!) try to keep that in mind. ~~Neptune The Great~~ |
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Date: 9/25/2003 10:27:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
Thanks Devildog. I just spend hours looking for the article which had the stuff about vietnam rifles in it and found it. It's an account of the troups on the ground and is quite harrowing in places. The paragraph in which the rifles came in went '... Added to such injury is insult: The military treats these soldiers like unwanted stepchildren. This unit's rifles are retooled hand-me-downs from Vietnam. They have inadequate radio gear, so they buy their own unencrypted Motorola walkie-talkies. The same goes for flashlights, knives and some components for night-vision sights. The low-performance Iraqi air-conditioners and fans, as well as the one satellite phone and payment cards shared by the whole company for calling home, were also purchased out of pocket from civilian suppliers.' But read the whole thing to get the context. The author who wrote it is a Fellow at a NY University, so take it up with him. I am always on a quest for truth even though it may go against my accepted beliefs, and it has many times. Stay cool. |
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Date: 9/25/2003 10:29:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
Oops I forgot to include the web addy: http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0920-02.htm |
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Date: 9/27/2003 1:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 4309
lol 911 was paid for by the Government.. No one has forgotten cause they shove it down your throats. Has everyone forgotten the Chief in Thief in office.. Has everyone Forgotten there was 6 planes and we followed them up to the planes according to CIA files to make sure they got on and this is public record ( not to mention the 8 planes the same day jacked from Israel heading over here but got shot down heh.. Zero Tolerance..) Has everyone forgotten the government Gasses the people here and makes them sign non disclosures and that our Government Gasses people in Iraq from Iran and then uses it as part as more propaganda to get oil and fufill a silly prophesy that these evil men want to happen. Look at public record more often , Gore did win, Supreme court ruled that the cheating and the people who where dead that voted for bush, the people who where not absentee but mailed from the united states for bush , the people who got counted twice for bush, that admitting even with all this GORE STILL WON lol.. in the recount.. to admit this would mar the bush presidency.. Thats exactly what the supreme court.. Almost exactly like that too =P.. Everyone forgets that over 60-75% of Americans in every state where still mad that he was elected all the way up to when 9-11 happened... Killed so many birds with one stone.. Check Chaneys stock history lol.. He sold. Check bushs.. He sold.. They knew silly people.. They knew.. They all set it up. The people have been set up since the League of Nations got defeated because they wanted to take over the world and somehow they got it through rosey velty. They are all bearers of light for satan and as soon as they restore Babylon (in current plans) you will all sit there and go nice.. But they are trying to fufill nonsence.. Do not let them start wars kill people and then find no weapons in a country that still doesnt want us there and will be ruled by the al-quaida members we are using in the north eastern part of Iraq to take over.. Just like Afghanistan where the Taliban kept almost all the cut of the 75 billion dollars of narcotics shipped into our most checked ports of New york and Washington.. Our man Ladin only got to keep 15.. Who is still alive.. Who is dead now.. What drugs still come in through those exact ports. In our loosest port you will not get in a milli gram of uranium =P.. Think about it.. Really.. Now think about the Nuclear head your not told about just like those 8 planes that was receantly bought by the Al-Quaida (Our group now) from "Russia".. Sure its Russian.. No other reason to be from there other then the same reason the Al-Quaidas bought Soviet masks and anti bio war suits with infra reds that somehow ended being found neatly tucked away.. Not in use.. Tucked away.. in Iraq. Hmmm... Wonder where the nuke will end up.. LoL.. |
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Date: 9/27/2003 1:58:00 AM
From Authorid: 4309
It rained the day of Bush's Puppet Presidency begining.. Never has it had.. He also had over 20,000 and growing throwing things at him.. He left his Security there to be beat by the crowd as he did something no other president has done.. DROVE IN A HURRY TO THE GATES AND DIDNT WALK LIKE A HUMAN AND AN EQUAL.. Maybe its because he was givin immunity against everything.. Same laws that allowed us to try Clinton for sillines are no longer in affect.. Its one of the reasons we cant releave him of his command for being awahl from the military and having his files tampered with.. His are the only ones missing.. I know.. I checked =P |
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Date: 9/27/2003 6:48:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
Devildog's answer to my last reply was deleted... why? He didn't use insults. However, his reply did give some truth away. Someone deleted that reply. Who did it? |
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Date: 9/27/2003 10:14:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
Was it the one that said "Vote Bush in 2004" 300 times? If that's the case, then I deleted it (a first for me). |
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Date: 9/27/2003 12:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
No it wasn't... I didn't see that one, but I wouldn't blame you for deleting that one. It was one that said something about the unit that I referred to in the article I saw. He wasn't rude or anything. |
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Date: 9/27/2003 12:35:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 1225
T'wasn't me. Admins? Which one of you? |
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Date: 9/27/2003 2:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 61941
Koolade, that's just a typical Army unit, playing things off worse then they really are. And the reporter isn't helping by the lack of acctual accounts he's describing. OK, I am not in a war tourn country at this time, well I am in China, this place is torn by something I just can't put my hand one. I've been here for 15 months and I haven't seen my family in 18 months. For those of you who know me, I was supposed to go home in about a week or so. Well they just came back and said I can't, I'll just have to wait, I'm need somewhere else. KNow I'm not complaing about anything here, I'm just saying that if your in the military and yuour told to do something you do it, no questions asked. I'm sick of hearng storyies of all the Army personel complaing about being over there, yea I'm not there getting shot at, but givin the situtation I know that I'm there doing my job trying to make a difference and I'll even volunteer to be left behind if I have to, this is a cuase I believe in and I would want to see it through to the end. Well enough from me I'm done venting for now. |
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Date: 9/27/2003 6:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
Sorry to hear that Devildog.. about you not getting home an all. It's tough on you guys. |
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Date: 9/28/2003 1:03:00 AM
From Authorid: 4309
lol |
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Date: 9/28/2003 9:27:00 AM
From Authorid: 61941
What are you laughing at Wiley |
