Date: 10/26/2003 5:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 45630
Well theschool your talking about is crazy. IN Australia the Big Bang theory has never been taught (It may hev been taught but believe me it is not the major theory over here) and christianity has never been discredited!  |
Date: 10/26/2003 5:13:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 32133
well welcome to the usa thats the way it is here and im sick of it.  |
Date: 10/26/2003 5:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 35720
Church and school should be seperate.  |
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Date: 10/26/2003 5:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 35720
And they usually teach the evolution theory in 10th grade or later, when the kids are old enough to determine for themselves what is right. |
Date: 10/26/2003 5:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 61811
I don't think they should discuss religion at all. If they do, then they should do what they do at my school. They discuss all of them, just not as a major thing...  |
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Date: 10/26/2003 5:28:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 32133
i agree there should be no religion but how do they teach kids how the world was made without using a belief in someones religion and offend someone.in massachusets kids are learnin from grd k that there is no god its all evolution and the bingbang. stuff like that. |
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Date: 10/26/2003 5:32:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 32133
at my school they do try to teach as much of a varity as thay can but its hard and i dont no of many other schools in MA that do it if any. |
Date: 10/26/2003 5:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
It seems to me that all relgions are a part of history and if they are going to teach one, I'm sure they would teach all.  |
Date: 10/26/2003 5:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 50678
I think they should teach history about religions and the beliefs of that religion. Because some Christians believe that Pagans and Wiccans worship Satan when they don't. Sorry that makes me made when they say false information.  |
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Date: 10/26/2003 5:46:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 32133
well when i was younger my mom told me about all the other religions and that no ones wrong its just a matter of what u think is right. so i no about everything and it does tick me off when people spread false info. but this is the first year that they teach us everything. |
Date: 10/26/2003 5:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 15228
I don't think they should teach ANY beliefs in a public school except how they relate to history, such as the crusades, the Inquisition and stuff like that. When it comes to teaching evolution, it should be presented as theory.  |
Date: 10/26/2003 5:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
You DO learn about all different kinds of religion. I would LOVE to know where half of the people that frequent this site went to school. Didn't you learn about World History? You know where you studied the different countries, their beliefs and their cultures? I learned about everything by definition. When we studied the Middle East we knew they were Muslims, we learned what the belief was and what their religious book was. We did this for every single section of the world including the US and it's Christianity. For science class we learned about evolution as a definition when THAT part of the history of science came up. They were all vocabulary words on tests. The doctrine itself is not taught and should not be taught, practicing and teaching the religion itself belongs in the home.  |
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Date: 10/26/2003 5:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
Give me a break! There is no way they are teaching 5 year olds about evolution and the big bang theory. "Science" class for a 5 year old doesn't extend much further than rain, snow, sleet, hail, lightning, wind, trees, and flowers. I have a 6 year old in first grade, and 6 year old's do not have even possess the mentality to get into that kind of stuff at that age. Let's be realistic about the situation shall we? |
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Date: 10/26/2003 6:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 15228
What Az says is correct. My 5 year old learns about the weather and that's about it. I was talking about older kids. Beliefs shouldn't be taught, just how religion has played a roll in history or how it plays a roll today. My 14 year old says she was taught the big bang theory in the 6th grade, but they haven't learned about evolution yet. |
Date: 10/26/2003 8:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 53689
"they cant teach the beliefs of christianity athism buddism wichcrat and many others in one class"
Actually they can..it is done all of the time in the universities. It's a class called Philosiphy of Religion.  |
Date: 10/26/2003 8:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
I believe they should learn about all, but teach none at all. Az, My grandson is 7 yrs old. He lives in a big city nearby. He had visited me and I have a large plastic dinosaur and a few small ones that I have had for a long while and each one the children love to play with them. Recently my 7 year old grandson said "Mamaws, I am real smart in school" I said to him "That's great! Are you getting good grades?" He said "Yes Mamaws, Do you know why the dinosaurs died?"..I said "You tell me since you are so smart" :) He went on about how volcano's erupted and caused a dark volcano dust to block out the sun and the dinosaurs became "DISTINCT"..LOL Regardless, He is being taught this as fact. I didn't get all upset about it, but I am determined to teach him all about God. :)  |
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Date: 10/26/2003 8:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
Kelly, now did they go into specific detail concerning the big bang theory or did they just say.....hey back in such and such time, so and so came up with this theory that.....blah, blah, blah, blah and that was the end of it? Or did they actually TEACH it? Cause we hit them ALL when I was in school but nothing was ever taught. Like when we touched on theory of evolution in both History and Science we were told when, who and what it was. We never discussed or did any kind of experiments. It was the same with all the other aspects that had to do with Religion. Like I said with Muslims. We knew that the people in the Middle East were Muslims, we knew what they called their religious book, and we learned about some of the customs of their religion, for example the relation that the Burka played with women ect. We didn't ever go into the whole nitty gritty of it and we knew the terms for religion by definition for out tests. I remember learning what Hinduism and Buddhism was, how the egyptians believed ect. Anything in depth was unspoken territory and I specifically remember my social studies teacher in 9th grade throwing out the theory of evolution, giving the definition and leaving it right at that and then stating we were not allowed to discuss any of them in great detail because it wasn't allowed. We just simply didn't get THAT far into it that any doctrine was read or preached to us. |
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Date: 10/26/2003 8:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
Um, Rusure, I am not following you on that one. What do dinosaurs have to do with God? LOL Help me out here. |
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Date: 10/26/2003 8:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
In all honesty Rusure, you don't know if they are teaching it to him as fact or whether he thinks it is fact. Kids at that age tend to leave out the inbetweens. They could have been reading a book that read something along the lines of "Scientist believe that the dinosaurs became "distinct" *chuckles* because....blah, blah, blah. A 7 year old isn't going to comprehend what is believed that happened to them, they are just gonna repeat the cool story they heard at school. It's not much different than taking everything else literally like most children do. They haven't reached the mind of that higher learning yet. |
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Date: 10/26/2003 9:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
Az, I did ask him if the teachers teach him anything about God and he did tell me no, but I do know where you are coming from. :) |
Date: 10/26/2003 10:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 20296
i feel religion is best taught at home  |
Date: 10/27/2003 3:42:00 AM
From Authorid: 48812
easy--don't teach about any religion at all in school, and let them pursue it OUTSIDE of school. If they wanna talk to a teacher about it, whether getting support in their decision or whatever, then let them do it. But i think it's kinda stupid to teach ONE religion in a school (especially public schools). That's the reason for the Separation of Church and State, so this exact thing won't happen. B/c what if a Bhuddist goes to a public school that focuses ONLY on christianity? Big problems there....better all around to just leave it outta the class.  |
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Date: 10/27/2003 6:08:00 AM
From Authorid: 27046
Rusure, they aren't going to teach him ABOUT God. That is what Sunday school, or religious education are for. Most kids that come from a religious church going background attend a religious class that is taught by one of the parishners of the church. I never learned ABOUT God in school. We learned about Christianity and what the definition of Christianity was, as well as ALL the rest of the religions and we didn't discuss those things until we were old enough to comprehend. There is a lot of science to start with, and lot of social studies to start with. He will spend most of his elementary days learning about HIS country. Social studies will consists of learning the 50 states and their capitals, learning about the cival war, the constitution, the colonies, the branches of government, the mason dixon line and all that basic stuff that furthers their knowledge for when they get older. For science, he is most likely on the same track that my daughter is on. Learning about the weather. Last year they did little experiments like bringing snow in from outside and watching it melt. God, creation, and all other religions don't start coming into play until they start learning about the advancement of our society and the relation to other countries and learning about the cultures that they practice. We learned about Buddhism. We weren't taught ABOUT Buddha. We knew who he was, who "worshipped" him and when it's existance came in. I clearly remember learning BC and AD. Had to learn that somehow right? I don't disagree with the fact that the basics SHOULD be taught in school, learning ABOUT these things in depth. Nope, because everyone's interpretation of their religion is different and THAT is where the conflict comes in. |
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Date: 10/27/2003 6:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 27046
Perfect example. My neice is 8 years old, lives in NC and attends a private Christian school. They have class called Bible. That kid can recite each chapter of Genesis and she hasn't the slightest clue of what she is talking about and I can tell by the way she rattles it off. You ask her if she knows what that means and she hasn't a clue. To me that is going to far and personally I have made statements to my sister that my neice is beginning to sound like a thumper and I mean in the literal sense. She had both of my kids completely confused. Everything out of her mouth to my own children when they came up here last year (which made her just barely over the age of 7 reciting Genesis) "Did you know that God...blah blah blah." I was answering questions with my own kids for weeks. And they were totally things that they could not understand or even begin to comprehend at that age. It's one thing to talk about God with kids that age as it is a private Christian school, but throwing the Bible in front of them as a daytime story is just plain ridiculous in my eyes. My kids "know" (believe it or not) that there is a God, that he loves them and he watches over them and all the things in the world, even Mommy's new car...LOL. For a 4 and 6 year old, that is plenty, I live with them and I am their sole caretaker, I know what they can and can't comprehend and diving into God, creation and the whole thing is WAY over their heads. |
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Date: 10/27/2003 8:29:00 AM
From Authorid: 3125
Az, That was the point I was trying to get across in my first comment" I believe they should *learn about all religions*, but *teach none* at all." Perhaps I should have made it clearer as to what I meant by *learn and *teach. I do not believe religion should be *taught in school. However, neither do I believe evolution theories should be *taught..To learn about it is fine, but teaching it as fact is what I object to. There are many fields in science that should be taught in school, but the theory of evolution is not one of them. |
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Date: 10/27/2003 7:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
Rusure, you were clear on what you meant. I understood what you meant with your comment. |
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Date: 11/14/2003 12:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 14549
At my school, we have religious studies that cover all of the major religions of the world, as well as the big bang and evolution theories (but we were taught about those in biology and physics too). We mainly have separate topics about aspects of life then discuss them in terms of different religions. Our learning is broken into sections like marriage, abortions, genetic engineering etc. They don't force any particular belief onto us. |
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Date: 11/14/2003 2:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 14549
At my school, we have religious studies that cover all of the major religions of the world, as well as the big bang and evolution theories (but we were taught about those in biology and physics too). We mainly have separate topics about aspects of life then discuss them in terms of different religions. Our learning is broken into sections like marriage, abortions, genetic engineering etc. They don't force any particular belief onto us. |
Date: 11/14/2003 2:26:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 32133
no uc im not sayin that there right out there sayin it in grd K but if a kid asks a teacher in kindergardedn "HOW WAS THE WORLD CREATED?" is the teacher gonna say "GOD CREATED IT" or "THERE WAS A BIG BANG AND THEN EVERTHING CAME TOGETHER AND FORMED THE EARTH". think about it
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