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Date: 1/25/2004 1:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 55009
the most descriminated person today is your average white person... think about it, as you said we are "giving" so much to other races and lifestylists that we get little to nothing. i think it is dumb, everyone should be getting the same stuff no matter what your gender preference or skin color or what gender you are...  |
Date: 1/25/2004 1:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 2030
I may be discriminated against but I can handle it. I'll pull myself up with my own boot straps.  |
Date: 1/25/2004 1:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 11199
i agree with you.  |
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Date: 1/25/2004 2:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 62511
I don't understand why people constantly wonder about this. Without those scholarships, most blacks and homosexuals would barely stand a chance because of what they are, and I think deep down people know that. I don't know why people want to act as though race or sexuality isn't an issue when it comes to education, as if even if blacks/gays didn't have those scholarships, a straight white person wouldn't get chosen over a black or gay person with the exact same grade point average. You can't sit here and tell me that a black or gay person didn't have a large history of being supressed in this country more than whites ever did. If this weren't the case, there wouldn't be so many scholarships for blacks and gays. Think about it. And I have yet to see a black or gay president. I also have to disagree with you on saying that out of all the hundreds of scholarships there is, that it's mostly for either blacks and homosexuals and that'as not true. Especially for homosexuals. Majority of scholarships look at your GPA and just that. Not your race or sexuality. If you go on scholarships.com (which anybody can think of first when looking for a scholarship on the internet,) there's ONE section for minoirties out of the six listed. If you take the other 5 categories and put them together, there's more scholarships than the minorities section and I think you know that. And I'm sure that most of the people chosen for those other scholarships would be dominately white, because America is dominately white. There's enough scholarships for everyone, so there's no need to cry about it. And I'll say this again. If every race was treated the same in this country in the first place, there wouldn't be any need for scholarships for a certain race or group. |
| Date: 1/25/2004 2:37:00 PM From Authorid: 62511 Omg. Why did I say "supressed?" I meant "opressed." Sorry about that. |
| Date: 1/25/2004 2:41:00 PM From Authorid: 62511 And I have to disagree with the "little to nothing," comment. Are you kidding me? White people could have everything in this country if they really wanted to! Think about it. There's so many scholarships out there, that there's no way you can leave empty handed. And I don't know about where you live, but in this city, a white person would get chosen for a job over a black person any day. |
Date: 1/25/2004 2:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 62267
I have never thought of it that way...I think you're right....Freaq  |
Date: 1/25/2004 2:45:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12966
62511, first of all, I never said that out of all the hundreds of scholarships there is, that it's mostly for either blacks and homosexuals, i said that there are a lot for them and none for straight people or white people. I think all scholarships should be based on academics, financial need, and community service!  |
| Date: 1/25/2004 2:46:00 PM From Authorid: 52554 its should be for every one i agree^_^\m/CocaColaChick |
Date: 1/25/2004 2:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 32133
because we have to be "fair" to people who arent like everyone else wich is stupid because everyone should have a "fair" chance.....i dunno if you ever watch the show 'boston public but it was about this the last show.  |
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Date: 1/25/2004 3:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 62267
It aint fair to only have black and gay and different racial scholarships...they should be for everyone...blacks win mosy beauty pageants too these days....Freaq |
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Date: 1/25/2004 3:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 62267
most**...freaq |
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Date: 1/25/2004 3:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 32133
it is really really stupid when blacks say "well you ow me a scholership for making my ancestors come here and be slaves" for a few reasons 1.) alot of blacks dont even have ancestors that were slaves they came to america after the civil war...and 2.)even if they did have ancestors that were slaves they might not even be in america right now there family may have never made it to america without the help of slave owners. |
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Date: 1/25/2004 3:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 62267
I agree w/ u system...Freaq |
| Date: 1/25/2004 3:29:00 PM From Authorid: 62511 ? |
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Date: 1/25/2004 3:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 62511
For some strange reason, I'm not allowed to speak my mind like everyone else in the other topic, so I'll just write my response to the girl who tried to disable my comments here. Now I don't agree with things such as reparations either. I don't think whites owe black people for slavery, but you know that in most cases blacks and gays are looked down upon. And it's not only white people donating money in order to help these scholarships even exist. Every thing is paid by just white people, right? No, that's not true. If it was just based on academics, community service, and so on, many black people wouldn't have gotten scholarships in the first place because of their race. I don't know why so many people are blinded by this. It's like everybody thinks we're living in a uptopia of some sort where we're all treated the same. You know that there are still racists in charge. There are black racists too, but name a black racist you can think of that has enough power to oppress whole families. Think about it. If this scholarship mess was in the 60's, do you think they'd choose a lot of black people? Do you think they would even choose even 5 black people out of 100? If it weren't for those black scholarships, a lot of black people wouldn't have been able to get the education they got now even if they had the best grades known to man. It was brought about when all of this was and most likely still is going on. You think that they're just going to up and get rid of it now when some of this racial bull is still going on? Please. It's already bad enough that only whites can be of highest authority in this country. We all just have to live with it. Just be glad that if you ever have a son, he'll have a chance to become president some day. With that being said, just be glad that if you have a little boy that tells you he has dreams of becomming a president, that you can TRULY think that if he does run that he could even stand a chance! |
Date: 1/25/2004 3:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
me too.  |
Date: 1/25/2004 4:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
As a hispanic female, I would much rather be chosen to go to college because of my GPA than because I am a woman and a latino.  |
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Date: 1/25/2004 4:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 18527
I mean think about it, to me it is insulting for people to want to give me help because I am of a certain background and gender. Like I can't perform as well as someone else, just because I'm a woman and hispanic. |
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Date: 1/25/2004 4:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 55009
62511 untill you have had a job you are more qualified for and a college opening you are more than qualified for ripped from your grasp because of affirmative action and government controlled laws on racial numbers in a work place you can see my point of view, i hold no hatred against any races or anything like that i just think that those most qualified should get the positions and what they apply for, the only reason i know i was a higher canidate for what would have been my job was because my friend who is of another race applied and was told that they got the job over me because of her race by the store manager's daughter. and being how there was only one opening and only two applicants... and to you also saying that white people can get what ever they want, i will agree to an extent but you also have to agree that any race and gender can get what they want to an extent, they might not land president but then again there arn't many good things about being president then again in my eyes there arn't; no private life, everything from you past comes back to bite your rear-end and it is a super stressful job. well anyways i do however understand where you are comming from although blacks and "alternative lifestylists" stand just as much of a chance as we do if they were to only grasp the chance by the horns as the whites have done. and i personally believe all the scholarships are based on discriminations because you have to fit into different catagories to recieve them, if that is not a form of discrimination what else could it be? |
Date: 1/25/2004 5:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 62338
It is messed up and if you say anything about it then you'll be called racist.Sad ain't it...Rawhide  |
Date: 1/25/2004 5:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 6867
i haven't read any of the comments above me, but If you applied to go to a historically black college(assuming you are white)you would get preference over a black person. There are plenty of scholarships and financial aide out there for EVERYONE. LOVE YOURSELF,  |
Date: 1/25/2004 6:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 35720
I don't agree with scholarships based on anything other than merit/scholastic acheivement or extracurricular activitie awards.  |
Date: 1/25/2004 6:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 32806
Women, blacks, gays, etc etc were treated like dirt for centuries. These types of measures were, and are, necessary to balance out the discrimination that is still rampant in peoples minds.  |
Date: 1/25/2004 6:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 16442
Ummmmmm Gloria, there is a big difference in being black and being homosexual. You cant hide your color but you dont have to tell people about your gender preferences, so if gays are discriminated against, then its their own fault for thinking everyone cares what they do in the bedroom.  |
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Date: 1/25/2004 6:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 62267
Guess I ain't entitled to my opinion heeere which is rediculous...prolly wasnt u that deleted it but thats ok...oh well...Freaq |
Date: 1/25/2004 6:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 4144
it is messed up. there should be no scholarships just for blacks only, whites only, homosexuals only, males only, females only................they should go by grades only. there shouldn't even be a race box to check on anything. i don't think it's fair to anybody to go by anything other than grades.  |
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Date: 1/25/2004 6:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 6867
system i don't think it is very fair of you to make the assumption that black ppl think they are "owed" scholarships. It has nothing to do with that. I'm black, and I feel like I deserve scholarships and financial aide because I have the right to an education period. I do not have the money to go but I am willing to work hard and make the grades to get a degree and better myself. <---That is another place alot of black people are coming from also. Don't make narrow minded assumptions. And I will get my scholarships, even if I have to use my race to get where I am going because no one else is going to take care of me but me. And last but not least, the struggles that my ancestors(yes, my people, my ancestors)endured will not be in vain. I will take advantage of every oppurtunity that is given to me because they paved the way for every black person in this country today, doesn't matter if their ancestors were slaves are not. So thank slave traders? No thank you. That's just ridiculous. Love Yourself, |
Date: 1/25/2004 8:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 61928
It would seem to indicate that blacks need the help more.  |
Date: 1/25/2004 9:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
Its kinda ridiculous. If the Scholarships come from Private Funding, ie:NOT the State...then who cares, its their money they can do what they want with it. Nothing stopping White people getting together and putting their own money into Scholarship Funds for Whites Only applicants. If its from the State, then thats a different story altogether. In my country I am a minority (NZ Maori)...and there are scholarships etc on offer for people of my race (who tend to be somewhat socially disadvantaged) to encourage them into Tertiary Education, to get a good education and thus further themselves and their families through increased employment prospects. The greater majority of those Scholarships are set up by Private Organisations ie:NOT tax money being diverted to one culture. There are Grants etc that are partially funded by the State, but they are few. That said...I do not agree with preferential funding/scholarships/admission quotas etc etc, IF it is taking away Tax Dollars we all pay, and IF it holds anyone else not in that cultural group back. Besides...I find things like being offered State Money to attend University, or being offered an 'easier in' to a Tertiary Institution somewhat condescending. I didn't need it when I went...and I still kicked the greater majority of supposedly superior non-Maori butts...hehehe. Peace,  |
Date: 1/25/2004 10:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 19460
in my opinion, i think it shouldnt matter what color or sexual preference you are. I think what should matter is what your grades were like throughout school. Some folks think going to college is party central. I dont think any college should even let people in the doors if they havent maintained atleast a high C, never had any problems with fighting or acting up in school, and that they were serious about their studies. College should be a privilidge to get a higher education, not the chance to party and then flunk out. There should be more scholarships for kids that actually try academically in school.  |
Date: 1/28/2004 4:58:00 AM
From Authorid: 36967
I agree. |
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