Date: 8/21/2004 9:15:00 AM
From Authorid: 62424
alright I just saw it and o...m...g I personaly am glad I dont look like that...those dolls are just beyond freaky, the big hair and pouty lips...no thanks....  |
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Date: 8/21/2004 9:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 62838
I've seen them on telly a few times. The thing is though, even if these dolls didn't exist, the way we live these days, everything in the media, points to this kind of thing anyway. Young girls will see and hear and learn. They will be affected by these ideas of perfection even if they never own a Barbie doll and never see a Bratz cartoon. To exist in the society we live in now and not pick this up is impossible, at least I believe so, unless you become Amish or move away to somewhere remote and don't own a TV! - Kokoro |
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Date: 8/21/2004 9:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 62838
Self-esteem is the key - Kokoro |
Date: 8/21/2004 9:48:00 AM
From Authorid: 47218
wow, that Barbie site is something else...I think it's promoting an image of women to young girls as dumb bimbos who only think about shopping and boys..."like, oh my gawd guys, let's go shopping! Oh, that looks so totally cute on you! What do we do next? Like, why don't you guys go hang out in the food court and we'll go shopping!" gag!  |
Date: 8/21/2004 9:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 15400
Those Bratz dolls are just plain Freaky! But I do have to agree with Kokoro comment. Even if these dolls didn't exits there would always be something else pointed at young girl to lead them in the wrong direction.  |
Date: 8/21/2004 10:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 15675
Im not so much worried about cartoon like dolls as I am ya know pop culture (actresses, tv shows, movies, musicians, dancers, etc...) that kids see and want to imitate.  |
Date: 8/21/2004 10:38:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
Jaded,my feelings exactly!  |
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Date: 8/21/2004 10:40:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
I agree with Kokoro and Princess L.- it is everywhere and pretty hard to avoid. But to have something specifically directed at a kid seems worse somehow. |
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Date: 8/21/2004 10:41:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
Lol @Mollycat. Like,you're so totally right! |
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Date: 8/21/2004 10:45:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
Kaja- you're right.Kids are more likely to imitate real people rather than cartoons.But what blows my mind is that they start the brainwashing at SUCH an early age.I've heard a 3 year old say she wants to be Barbie when she grows up! Wow,huh? |
Date: 8/21/2004 11:03:00 AM
From Authorid: 49101
ugh... I am on dial up and I con nopt see it now, but as soon as I get home I will. Do you know how you can help STOP these sorts of things from selling? WRITE! Write, write, write, and get other people to write even more, about how distasteful you think this merchandise is. I can't stand big companies exploiting the minds of young children.  |
Date: 8/21/2004 11:11:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
It bothers me,too, but who should I write to? the companies themselves or newspapers..?I'm not good at this kind of thing.Any ideas would be appreciated  |
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Date: 8/21/2004 11:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 49101
Writting to the companies will draw attention to its' PR department which may make some changes, it may turn some heads. But writting to the media... WOW, that gets all kinds of attention! Write to ANYONE who will listen, but make you get other people to write too! |
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Date: 8/21/2004 11:21:00 AM
From Authorid: 49101
Strength in Numbers. |
Date: 8/21/2004 11:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 19772
I'm not worried about Barbies, it's the real girls out their in the media everyday that should worry you. You can always explain to your kids that a doll is just that, a doll. But people on T.V. and in movies (Like the Olsen Twins) are real people and to me they are a bigger threat. But thats the way society is today. Very rarely do you see any "normal size" models, singers, or actors out there. Unless you are rail thin and dress in band aids no one wants to put you on a magazine cover. ~Gabrielle~  |
Date: 8/21/2004 11:31:00 AM
From Authorid: 35720
I'm sure they're not intentionally trying to promote anorexia or anything of the sort.. thin is pleasing to society's eyes these days.. they're just keeping up with current trends..  |
Date: 8/21/2004 11:50:00 AM
From Authorid: 37101
Yeah. Chill out, cool cat, 'cuz anorexia is righteously phat. -  |
Date: 8/21/2004 12:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 62588
My niece is five, and she knows how to turn on thee computer, sign onto her screen name and fallow the desktop icon to barbie.com, myscene, polly pocket, flava, bratz, etc. She has the dolls, plays on the websights, and has the stickers, etc. Five years old is a very impressionable age, I would think... But in her little mind, things seem to go the opposite way.. She is skinny, and continuously says when she grows up she wants a big belly like me! My point is, if the children of today spend more time playing with a barbie then with an adult, they may grow up wanting to look like a barbie. If parents and older family members spend a lot of interactive time with their children doing things the kids will enjoy, we don't need to worry about what mainstream society puts out for them.  |
Date: 8/21/2004 1:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 62787
well, i dont think its anorexic..its just..would you buy an obese barbie? i dont think anyone would buy one..- Blade of the Samurai  |
Date: 8/21/2004 2:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 62249
What about that doll called "Betty Spaghetti"  |
Date: 8/21/2004 7:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 62624
my daughter has these dolls and she has gone to these sites. Yes, my daughter is very skinny. However, I do not believe that dolls are responsible for this. I agree with those who think that t.v. or movies are more influentual in these areas. My daughter says things like she wants to be like Hilary Duff, or Mary Kate and Ashley. She doesn't even play with her dolls anymore. I don't see anything wrong with the Bratz website. I've gone there myself with my daughter. She just thinks that they are silly. But I do have restrictions on what she watches.  |
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Date: 8/22/2004 10:58:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
Kimberly- the Bratz website isn't that bad.Go watch the My Shows on the myscene website and tell me what you think.A few of them are cute, but the rest... Blade of Samurai- There is a biiig diff between obese and normal. These dolls are way beyond what anyone can ever look like. So they're cartoons, that's not an excuse, look at the cartoons in the 80's, they were cool and looked normal.Betty and Veronica are skinny but they don't look like swizzle sticks. |
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Date: 8/22/2004 11:05:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
Melissa, I agree in a way. My sister doesn't seem affected by what she sees on the media very much, and she gets plenty of attention and love so that hopefully she won't ever have to obsess about her weight. But what about all the girls out there that feel insecure? Plus, a lot of people are genetically predisposed to think thy're fat, and with the media out there constantly pushing the idea... |
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Date: 8/22/2004 11:06:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
That's cute about your niece, by the way |
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Date: 8/22/2004 11:12:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
Jynx- did you see Mary-Kate? Oh my god, I feel so bad for her.I wish the media would leave the poor kid alone. That way she'd get her privacy AND kids wouldn't see her skinny bod and think she's cool. |
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Date: 8/22/2004 11:16:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
Rika- I'm sure it isn't intentional , either , but it's still there. And wheather the bods of the dolls are too skinny or not, the mini cartoons still make Barbie look braindead. |
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Date: 8/22/2004 11:21:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
SC- you're kidding,right? You gotta be. |
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Date: 8/22/2004 11:23:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
McBacon - somehow the Betty Spaghettis don't bother me too much.I can't imagine a kid wanting to look like one of those ugly things |
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Date: 8/22/2004 11:24:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
I probably am over-sensitive about this,it's just that I'm a recovered (hopefully) bulimic. I started when I was 12. |
Date: 8/22/2004 10:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 51070
The thing is, its a jaded point of view. I saw something totally disturbing today. My mom and I were out shopping and we walked past this shop called Libby Lu. All these little, bitty girls - probably 6 - 9 years of age - were being dressed in little skimpy tops and makeup. In a mall crowded with people! It's one thing to look good and take care of yourself, be healthy, and all, but what our media is promoting today is a very jaded view of what femininity is. Women are supposed to be passive, obedient, fluff-brained anorexics who care only about getting boyfriends and clothes. They aren't portrayed as people with true interests or intelligence. It's sick and twisted. And women probably aren't the only ones feeling pressure. Men are pretty much feeling pressure to be big, muscle-bound macho men if they want to get the girl. And then the guys interested in art and the intellectual are being called deragatory names directed at homosexual people for having interests other than beer, girls breasts, and cars. Our society is totally screwed up! But, truthfully, I don't think all women want muscle-bound Arnold lookalikes, and I don't think all men want anorexics. I think, when it comes down to it, personality and intelligence is probably what is most important. Ehhh...sorry for my ramble. Things like this get me worked up.  |
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Date: 8/22/2004 10:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 51070
Perhaps we all should get together and write to these companys, like Miss C suggested? Cool idea, Miss C! |
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Date: 8/23/2004 9:03:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
CF- you're not rambling at all And things like this make me mad too. Despite the way my post makes me sound I'm not all that conservative, but I think kids should look and act like kids. My lil sis dresses very cute and in style and manages to avoid looking like a mini-Britney. I've seen some clothes shops like you've described too. Once I even saw this little girl with jeans hanging so low her lil undies were showing,and a tiny halter top. It made me sick to think of her walking around like that when there are so many child molesters out there. |
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Date: 8/30/2004 7:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 35720
Yeah I can only imagine how braindead the cartoons make her seem.. "oh *giggle* he's so CUTE *giggle giggle*" |
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Date: 9/3/2004 12:31:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
Lol. |
Date: 2/2/2006 5:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 11097
Well when I was little I played with barbies and I never got that impression and still don't from barbie dolls. But... I dont like the Bratz dolls. They are extemely provacotive looking for little girl toys and their clothes are as well. I have a little sister and I wouldn't buy any of those dolls for her, I think they give people a distorted image. Thanks for sharing!  |
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Date: 2/12/2006 12:11:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 42259
I also played with BGarbies as a kid and they didn't alter my self-image,either. I really had more of an issue with the Barbie video clips. You're right, the Bratz dolls are worse. |
Date: 4/3/2006 8:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 63209
First of all, let me get this straight- it is a DOLL. Dolls can be WAY less influential to real people (Britney, Olsens). The kids KNOW they can be someone real rather than an inanimate doll. I know, sometimes things can get into their heads that aren't real, but really, the dolls actually WEAR something! MyScene- fine, at least they aren't doing very nasty stuff. Bratz- sure, they can get skimpy sometimes, but at least they aren't cussing and being rude. Anorexia? No.. anorexia is a disease, how would kids get anorexia if they don't already have it? Okay, sorry for the long post.. it's just that dolls are DOLLS.  |
Date: 8/22/2006 7:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 7574
Ugh, it makes me sick.  |
