Date: 9/28/2004 7:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 12835
Conspiracy nut ?  |
Date: 9/28/2004 7:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 34487
LOL, yep...this is funny. The Kerry campaign will grasp at ANYTHING to try and win this election. So now...they turn to cows to pull them through....LOL. Do they have any dignity or self-respect and do they realize just how ludicrous all of these "secret plans" sound? If any administration would have secret agendas, I'd be betting on the Kerrys. They seem untrustworthy and sly all the way across the board.  |
Date: 9/28/2004 8:01:00 AM
From Authorid: 25390
Vote NADER!  |
Date: 9/28/2004 8:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 43807
Exercise your right not to vote!!!  |
Date: 9/28/2004 8:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
YC quote: "grasp at ANYTHING..". Oh, I could cite one big long list of things the Republicans HAVE done which clearly shows they will stoop to the lowest level and beyond in order to get and keep their voter base. How about this: Certain areas in Bible belt states were blanketed with literature saying "The liberals will ban your Bibles!" and alo they've said "Al Queda wants Kerry to win" or "A vote for Kerry is a vote for Al Queda!" and many other such utter nonsense.
As for any "secrets"? Their are many things that Bush would like to think are secret, but they are not. Many plans he and the right wingers have for American citizens. Don't suppose you'd like those listed here. Nah, didn't think so.  |
Date: 9/28/2004 8:50:00 AM
From Authorid: 13729
Vote Bush OUT in November!!!.........  |
Date: 9/28/2004 8:50:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15228
Thing is...if Kerry is elected I vow to disagree with him on real issues...not nutty conspiracy theories or on the basis of secret plans...I also swear not to compare him to Hitler/Stalin or any facist dictator or call him stupid, dumb or compare him to...let's say a gorilla since Bush seems to have the chimp comparision locked up...I may get out of hand occasionally and call him a socialist though.  |
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Date: 9/28/2004 8:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 34487
Hmmm...Yep Thinker, I don't think it's anything but common knowledge that BOTH parties have used unsavory tactics in elections. For me, the one that most recently takes the cake, is CBS's attempt at discrediting Bush's military record by using FRAUDULENT documents! LOL... that is actually comical. I mean, they used superscript in these newly created letters that were SUPPOSED to be from the late 60's when superscript hadn't yet been created! LOL! I'm still laughing about that one but I need a laugh now and then, thanks Kerry...that was a good one! :) |
Date: 9/28/2004 9:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 2030
I heard John Kerry is a member of Al Quaida, and that Bush is thinker's ex. husband (hence the hostility). And that since the main goal of so many Liberals is simply to vote Bush out, that if they win they will simply leave the position of President vacant. And if Bush wins there is a conspiracy to have him take a ride in a car with Ted Kennedy over a bridge.  |
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Date: 9/28/2004 9:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 2030
And don't even get me started on the Micheal Moore is Andy Rooney's love child with Ellenor Roosevelt theory. |
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Date: 9/28/2004 9:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 34487
LOL@ BCAR, thanks for catching me up on the latest gossip...I hadn't heard those yet. |
Date: 9/28/2004 10:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 4144
kerry needs therapy!  |
Date: 9/28/2004 11:07:00 AM
From Authorid: 17081
You forgot the secret plan to drop gas prices right before the election.  |
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Date: 9/28/2004 12:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Oh YAH...how could we forget that one!? LOL... :O) |
Date: 9/28/2004 2:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 19613
Why bother keeping secrets if he knows they will be dismissed as nonsense if someone questions him about them? just a thought.  |
Date: 9/28/2004 3:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
YC, I am glad you brought up the subject of Bush's service. The fact is, and this is fact, Bush never did report for duty in Alabama. Not one single person who was in the 187th at that time can recall Bush ever having reported. How did he get away with it? Two reasons, his daddy, and the man he was working for, Blount. At that time Blount had a tremendous amount of pull in Alabama, and with the National Guard. That pull was used to see that "W" did not have to report.  |
Date: 9/28/2004 6:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 37101
And, when George Bush's opposition runs out of ideas, they begin speculating other things that will attempt to oust him from office. But in the end, we all know they'll fall flat on their face. *shrug* -  |
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Date: 9/28/2004 7:08:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15228
Mfrompa, I'm waiting for that one to happen, they must mean like a week before the election because oil keeps hitting all time highs. And here I thought Bush was in Saudi Arabia's pocket..or is it Saudi Arabia is in Bush's pocket? |
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Date: 9/28/2004 7:12:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15228
Interesting that every year Bush was in the guard he got all his points. In fact, he was at minimum suppose to earn 50 points, but at his highest he earned over 300 at his lowest he earned 60. Also interesting the ONLY person they can dig up to say anything about his time in the service is an 80 year old former secretary...Everyone else who either roomed with him or swore him in the guard or was his commander have nothing but positive things to say...but of course Dan Rather doesn't want those interviews...it doesn't fit the obsession. |
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Date: 9/28/2004 7:25:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15228
Two Spirit, I assume You didn't support Bill Clinton, an admitted draft dodger who "loathed the military"? Kerry said the past should stay the past when Clinton was running for President. Guess he and his supporters changed there minds on that one..At Least Bush served two years full time in the beginning of his guard service, flying jets is no small accomplishment for a chimp. |
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Date: 9/28/2004 9:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Kelly, the fact is that he lied about his service, and how it was covered up. It will eventually all come out, but it will not be the media or either party that brings it to the forefront. As for Clinton, I was almost brought up on Article 15 UCMJ charges for openly voicing my sentiments to junior enlisted personnel during his administration. Instead, I recieved a reprimand that kept me from regaining the stripe I gave up when I went to security forces. |
Date: 9/28/2004 9:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
Kerry has at least 30 years of "service" we need to look very closely at also. His service is now coming under some intense "looking into" as well. He loves being popular, we know that. How will he solve the War on Terror though? The US has been a World Leader when it comes to humanity, we don't saw off the heads of any civilians or military who commit crimes and publish the last death screams on the Internet for the world to watch in horror. Not under this democracy. We strive for peace, and fight for liberty, justice, and hope all will benefit from our efforts as a world leader and what our current President is doing, taking a stand against global terriorists and their one man crews of destruction. Elimatinating the possibility of what happened recently in Russia, happening in our schools. And who can say when and where it WOULD NEVER happen? And what measures are we taking? Do YOUR children know where to hide if attacked in their schools?  |
Date: 9/28/2004 9:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
Why is the Bush guard thing and the Kerry medals and whether he really earned them or not such a big deal? They were both young and I'd like to think people can grow as humans in 30 years time. Shouldn't the issues they stand for now, and the policies they want to implement be more important than fingerpointing and making accusations about who did what 3 decades ago.  |
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Date: 9/29/2004 3:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 47296
Brenda, our track record when it comes to humanity is nothing to brag about. We have comitted our share of atrocities in the past 20 years. The thing is, when you are the US and it is happening in places like Central America, it doesn't always make the headlines. You speak of what happened in teh Russian schools. Do you seriously think Bush, or anyone else for that matter could stop it from happening here? If you do, then it is time for a serious wake up call. If we can't keep a student from walking in with a gun and shooting their classmates, or some demented sniper in the trunk of a car from shooting at our kids, then what makes you think anyone cane keep what happened in Russia from happening here. We can't, and if it does happen, then you had best be preapred for the worst, since most law enforcement agencies are not trained to deal with terrorist situations. |
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Date: 9/29/2004 3:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 47296
Base, it is called credibility. |
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Date: 9/29/2004 5:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 2030
I'm not the least bit impressed with the military record of either one. It's a non-issue for me until one of them (Kerry) comes out with his lame "reporting for duty" garbage and tries to trumpet his military service that he disparaged and trashed 30 years ago. I call that hypocritical. Plus you have the Democratic side of the fence that told us for 8 years during the Clinton administration that military service was not an issue as qualification for commander in chief, now they want to pick at the Bush Gaurd record and make their guy Audie Murphy (again the laughable, reporting for duty thing) Hypocritical again. |
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Date: 9/29/2004 5:54:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15228
Two Spirit, show me the proof where he lied. Lied about what? He has released all his military documents...there is nothing that shows he lied about anything..I guess if you keep repeating something long enough, everyone will believe it as truth. |
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Date: 9/29/2004 6:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Kelly, the proof will come out concerning Bush's service. The records of most units from back in the 70s were kept on microfiche. Most all those files are presently being restored on disc. As of this date, there is yet to be found any record in the files of the 187th that Bush ever reported for duty of any type. How do I know? One, the 187th is my old unit, and I still keep abreast of what goes on with that unit. Two, I know several of the people involved in the archiving of the units records and doing the synopsis of reports. In fact, one of them is my ex. |
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Date: 9/29/2004 8:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
Two Spirit, I'm still reeling after hearing someone tell me about code 5, in one of our surbanan school districts. She started a new job there and no one told her, or forgot. Means a drill to find somewhere to hide. I get so mad just thinking about little kids needing to search for a place to hide in schools. I do not think any one person can ever stop a nut from killing or hurting a child, but I expect a that today, any President better instill some fear in those who are so evil and insane. NOT much will worry them, so they kill and maim, only one thing stops people like that. |
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Date: 9/29/2004 8:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
TwoSpirit...from everything I've seen and heard about Bush's military record, it's on the up and up. They have PROVEN NOTHING negative about it. As for Kerry, that's a whole different story. |
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Date: 9/30/2004 5:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 47296
Brenda, I spent part of my career in security training for anti-terrorism. You do not scare, worry, or deter terrorists. They thrive on instilling fear into the people. Their targets are often targets of opportunity. In the cases where their targets are chosen, such as 9-11, they are well thought out and planned. To put it plain and simple, you do not stop terrorism. Instead, you learn to live with the threat. Any President that thinks he can decalre war on terror and win, is do nothing more than blowing smoke. |
