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The USA not a Democracy. Alpha-Zero

  Author:  41708  Category:(Debate) Created:(9/29/2004 2:22:00 PM)
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I am tired of the way everyone says "America must stay a democracy!"

America never has been a Democracy and it never will be. It is a Constitutional Republic. Franklin Roosevelt started the Democracy idea. He did it so that he could put restrictions on banking, bussiness, the people and take away restrictions on the government. Why? Because he could justify doing those unconstitutional things because 'it's what the people want'.

Now, lets say that there is a rapist sitting in a county jail, about to go to prison for six months, because a judge let him loose because of something in the laws. Now, lets say that a violent mob forms, calling for this man to die for what he did, so they break into the jail and drag him out and beat him to death.

Who do you agree with? The judge who followed the law or the mob who did what they wanted?

If you said the Judge, you cannot support democracy, as that is rule by the people. Rule by the mob. You cannot have rule by law and rule by the people. It is only feasible on paper.

If you try to run a nation on law and mob rule, only the laws the mob agrees with will be followed. Oh yes, the laws about theft, murder, traffic and other illegal things will still be there. The mob aggrees that those must be there to maintain order.

The Bill of Rights and teh Constitution, on the other hand... well, they don't maintain order for day to day life, do they? No, therefore the mob says that the government can change them.

There has never been a true Democracy on this planet that has maintained order. A true Democracy is anarchy. Mob rule taken to it's epitome. Look at the African anarchies and tell me you want rule by the people. The situation would be different here, but it will have the same result.

So what party should you support to put America as a Constitutional Republic again? There is none. The Democrat(not democratic) and Republican parties have the power to do it, but if they do, they lose too much. Some of the Third Parties have the drive, but not the power.

As I and my friends have all discussed this, we came to one conclusion. We have passed the point of no return. There is no way for the US government to turn itself arround and return to what the Founding Fathers set up.

No... I take that back. There is one way.

Revolution.

Alpha-Zero

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Date: 9/29/2004 2:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 37101    They are different types of democracy. Pure democracy is where all the say goes to all the people and that's chaos. Representative democracy, which the US is, contains the idea that certain officials are elected to best represent the will of the people they're elected to represent. We're a democracy. -  
Date: 9/29/2004 3:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 45630    If we look at the true ideology of Democracy i.e Periclean democracy America is most definatly a democracy. Just because it comes from the greek word for poeple (demos) doesn't mean that sole control is given to the people. I very much agree with Smooth Criminal on this one.  
Date: 9/29/2004 4:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 1225    Indeed. As I stated in my report on American government during my senior year in high school, direct democracy in large societys is impossible.  
Date: 9/29/2004 5:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 5886    America is no longer a Country either, it's just a giagantic Corperation.  
Date: 9/29/2004 6:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 28363    We need to clean house on the professional politicians for sure. They have a sweet life and all they have to do is pander to their own special interests. Any real person who comes into politics will quickly learn how the system works, and they better fit in or they will find themselves outside the loop. Us regular folks are too far outside the political system to make any difference. All you get is feel good points if your side wins, and hurt feelings if they lose. Great post  
Date: 9/29/2004 7:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 52155    The Queen would be upset by reading this...  
Date: 9/29/2004 10:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 37900    Americans have the power to change their government, but relatively few take advantage of their blood-bought right to vote. Revolution overthrows what exists but seldom offers an improvement. An educated populace that will vote is far more effective, as evidenced by the groups that politicians want to appeal to. Seniors vote; members of unions vote; environmental and homosexual activists vote; born-again Christians vote. Likely voters that are educated about the issues that concern them will do more to help restore this country to its roots than will any other means. Good post, Alpha-Zero!  
Date: 9/30/2004 8:30:00 AM  From Authorid: 19613    "There has never been a true Democracy on this planet that has maintained order". Speak for yourself. According to dictionary.com's definition of a democracy; "Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
A political or social unit that has such a government.
The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
Majority rule.
The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community." my country (Ireland) is most definatly a democracy. Plus our president is actually elected by the popular vote and we have proportional representation in our elections. :)


  

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