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Republicans are happier than Democrats

  Author:  36704  Category:(Discussion) Created:(1/30/2008 11:24:00 AM)
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Yep, that's right according to the Pew Research Center. Republicans are happier on average than Democrats.

"The reason might seem obvious, since "Republicans tend to have more money than Democrats, and—as we've already discovered—people who have more money tend to be happier," the report states.

But even after adjusting for income, poor Republicans are happier than poor Democrats, and rich Republicans are happier than rich Democrats."

After taking out the money issue, any thoughts on why Republicans would be happier than Democrats?

And, Republican, Democrat, or other and are you happy or not?

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Date: 1/30/2008 11:37:00 AM  From Authorid: 63194    Selfish, ignorant bigots do tend to be happier than the kind hearted.  
Date: 1/30/2008 11:37:00 AM  From Authorid: 63194    But I am happy in my life - but I hate both Repubs and Dems.  
Date: 1/30/2008 11:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 61977    What kind of generalization is that Ben? have you met and personally know every Republican? I assume that is who you are talking about?  
Date: 1/30/2008 11:41:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    Do you have anything to back up your statement that Republicans are selfish? Do they not donate their time and money to charities in the amount that Democrats do? How do you come to the conclusion they're less kind-hearted?  
Date: 1/30/2008 11:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    On Paper I am a True Republican/Constitutionalist/Conservative. This America that we are in is by far my ideal America and I believe more people should know what 1776 means when it comes down to it but I am not unhappy. The problems with the world will not effect my happiness, which if I wanted to throw in my "guess", I would say a great deal of "democrats" let their "Worlydly Concerns" effect their emotional life too much. They just might be more "Concerned" with saving everything from the "Evils" of the world as a "Moral Need". More determination/compulsion which might make them more upset when the rest of the world isn't as "Morally Concerned" as they are and how things are not the "Utopia" they wish for. <--- You should feel obliged to actually get such a Guess from me because I rarely give them. I tend to stick to things that are more provable.  
Date: 1/30/2008 11:58:00 AM  From Authorid: 11251    ***takes a deep breath*** My husband and I are both college students. He is working towards an engineering degree and mine is in biology. Also, both of us work very hard to make ends meet every month. We own our own home, a small car, and a truck. Our bills are a constant worry for us. When I have a moment of spare time I volunteer with a local animal rescue. All of my 5 cats and 2 dogs were someone else's garbage. My husband and I are always willing to lend a hand when we can. I have no health insurance. My husband is insured, but because of a life long condition that he has it is still very expensive. Life is very hard for us a lot of the time, but we are very happy with our lives. Care to guess where I stand politically?  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 30093    I guess when you don't care about others you have more time to care about yourself.  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:04:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    I would tend to agree with your assessment Wiley. But, Utopia is never going to exist so living for it or hoping for it or even wanting it, isn't go to do much for anyone other than depress them. lol  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:06:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    I would guess Republican, Irish Raven. But not based on anything you said, you live in a red state, just playing the odds. lol  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    ^^ Possible Case in Point that can almost Validate my "Guess". All Nanaki had to say to end it was that Nanaki "cares" for people more than supposed "Republicans" and it Upsets Nanaki that his "Morals" are not everyones and the world is not the "Utopia".  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 61977    I tend to agree Wiley.   
Date: 1/30/2008 12:12:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    Pretty much and I disagree with both Ben and Nanaki. I don't think Republicans care less but just feel that people need to step up to the plate and not just lay everything at the feet of the government. Both want to help people in their own ways, one side by delegating it to the government and one side by doing it without government and leaving it up to private charities and communities. But, that's just my opinion.  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 11251    Base...I very much agree. As you can tell by my example of my life. We want no one's help and we are making it for the most part (yes our parents do help on a rare occasion...but we hate this).  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 61977    Irish Raven, I am glad that you chose to share portions of your life with us. Just because an individual is Republican does not make them selfish, heartless individuals. I agree with your stance Base. It is not how every individual lives their lives it is how they CHOOSE to view their lives that makes them who they are. Being rich or poor plays no part in my opinion.  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:28:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    I think it's in the way you choose to view it Mother Love. I can feel bad for starving people in Africa and maybe I can donate some money to feed them but I can't help millions of people. I can, however, go down to my local homeless shelter and volunteer or hand out food at a food bank. So, I can't improve the living conditions for millions but I can for a few and be happy that maybe it made a difference for someone.  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:29:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    You guys will get to where you want to be Irish Raven and where you get there on your own I think in the end you'll appreciate it more. For the record, our animals were all "garbage" also.   
Date: 1/30/2008 12:30:00 PM  ( Chatmin-IR )   Base...I do already...more so everyday!
Date: 1/30/2008 12:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 11251    oops! wrong uniform...lol.  
Date: 1/30/2008 12:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 61977    Since Base and Irish Raven stated how they acquired their pets, I thought I would also tell you that my cat "Titan" was also garbage. I agree with you Base, wholeheartedly.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    My Dog Ginger was an Abandoned Austrailian Shepard as a puppy, in a trash bag full of puppies right by my house. It went real well with my male Austrailian Shepard. One of my cats was an abandoned kitten, and was practically feral. Now it doesn't want to ever go outside.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 2030    I tend to look out for myself and my family first and formost and other than my disdain for having my tax dollars spent foolishly I've managed to do quite well under both Republican and Democratic regimes. If taking personal responsibility for myself and striving to better my situation and enjoying the fruits of my labor makes me a selfish biggot then so be it.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 15228    I suppose it's because democrats see themselves as victims more so than republicans. Someone is always holding them back, the man is out to get them...that would depress me too, if I thought someone, and not my own deficiencies, was purposely holding me back and making me one of the downtrodden for evil and nefarious reasons. (I managed to squeeze in two words of the day in my comment).  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 15228    Hey, My dog Jesse was abandoned, hairless, full of scabs and bleeding from mange when she was dropped off at my house. She was a disgusting mess. I spent some serious money on her treatment. How does she repay me??? She gets a seizure disorder. Oh well, I love her anyway.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    ^^ I also helped to find all the other puppies a home. Now as far as donating to "charities" at random I usually put it like this. Say you are outside your local grocery store and a random "Santa" is jingling a bell asking for donations to such and such for needy kids. Well besides the fact I usually pay for everything with plastic, there is no guarantee if I dropped $10,000 dollars in this mans bucket that real needy kids will see even a $1 of it. Yet, when you just walk on by the man you might garner the "Evil Eye" stare of someone who is supposedly morally superior to you because They dropped in their $1.50, while holding onto anything bigger. I would rather, personally to visit friends who I know are very poor and bring them ground meat/steaks in a cooler to eat than drop a penny in a unguaranteed "Charity". I would rather Give something to a physical Child I can see with my own eyes than roll the dice and do something that is only supposed to make me Feel "Morally" good, if I actually believe for 100% that my $1.50 made it to someone who actually needed it.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:18:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    I thought this was interesting as far as Republicans being labeled "selfish." http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2005/11/generosity_inde.html The poorest states, also Red states are more charitable than the richer blue states.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 15228    I guess one other reason is that republicans are more religious than democrats. In surveys, religious people are happier than non religious people. I don't know why that is.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    I wonder how many of those states feel buying into the Feed the Sally Struthers Program made them morally superior to someone who actually volunteered time at a soup kitchen?  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 15228    Wiley, most of those people give directly to their churches. Many churches run highly successful outreach programs, food banks, day-cares, drug rehab programs that help the poor so much more than any government welfare program ever could.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:28:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    Yeah, I saw that in the article, it also said married people are happier and that people who live in the Sunbelt are happier. lol  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:31:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    I don't think it necessarily makes them feel morally superiour Wiley, at least it shouldn't. I think what it comes down to is similar to the example you gave. Republicans want to decide on their own where their money goes rather than having it doled out by the government. It doesn't mean they don't want to help others, or that they're not going to help others, just that they don't want to be forced to. And also what BCAR said about looking out for himself and his family first, imo that's how it should be. If you can't take care of yourself and your family then you're not in a position to really be able to help others. It starts with caring for oneself and it spreads out from there.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 64566    To be honest with you , I care less about any parties. I wish we could just have one person that knows right from wrong. Here's a perfect example. I had a friend that only supports Republicans no matter what. There was a Democrat that was running that he was hoping would win as governor so Alabama could get the lottery. Guess what? He could not break his tradition so he could not vote for a Democrat............Clifford the BIG Red Dog.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Heh, I was talking about the Blue States. Buying your Superior Morals without doing the work or at least making a contribution to something more "guaranteed" like your personal church. It is actually similar to "Buying Carbon FootPrints" in a way and acting morally supperior because you "Offset" your Carbon. What did you really accomplish for 100% fact? Sending money to Struthers was a bad joke, even though she did increase in size throughout her Feed the Children Campaign, but all in all what was really guaranteed when people sent her money and how is that better than doing something for someone in your actual community. Something you know is physically real/guaranteed. I was just wondering how many of those Blue states subscribed to giving unguaranteed charities money vs doing something that was 100% guaranteed.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Big Red Dog. On Paper I am a True Republican/Conservative/Constitutionalist. The "Parties" you speak of are Politicians. There is a difference.  
Date: 1/30/2008 2:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 15228    The "carbon offsets"...LOL, good analogy. Like Clinton saying one time that he didn't feel like he paid enough in taxes. What's stopping him from paying more in taxes?? Nothing, he could sit down and write a check to the IRS and feel morally superior any time he wanted. Just saying it though was enough. Giving to the Feds would do no more good than if he threw it at the local, street corner wino though. Somehow many have come to see the Government as the giver of happiness, the giver of wealth. I don't understand it.  
Date: 1/30/2008 3:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 61977    I do not get it either Kelly. Perhaps, we will never get it. I am still waiting to hear from someone on this post who will make me understand it. LOL  
Date: 1/30/2008 3:15:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    Voting party lines is common in both parties, Clifford. I wish more people would vote for a candidate rather than a party, but some people are so blinded by anger for the other party that they can't see passed that to even listen to what someone represents.  
Date: 1/30/2008 3:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 27403    Democrats are more concerned with the welfare of others, so always have something to worry about. Ignorance is bliss! LOL! LOve and Light  
Date: 1/30/2008 3:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 15228    Lightworker may have hit the nail on the head. Democrats worry more about people they don't know, think that though they are doing well, others aren't and therefore they think the federal government should solve the problem. Perhaps republicans feel more empowered because they actually do something that doesn't involve the Federal government. They do more for the people directly around them as Wiley states, take care of there own family as Bcar stated. When depending on some large bureaucracy to take the place of a husband or extended family, that can't bring much security or comfort.  
Date: 1/30/2008 4:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    This was one of those Rare occasions that I agree 100% with what BCAR said taking care of your family and of course what Base expanded on after your affairs are in order, it spreads out from there.  
Date: 1/30/2008 4:21:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Its just a rare day today. Is there some weird Scientologist Comet passing by or something?  
Date: 1/30/2008 4:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 12072    sounds to me like a last ditch effort for the republican party to convince a few more people to follow them--wonder how much the Pew Research Center was paid to "research" this (BTW I'M ONLY KIDDING! LOL!)  
Date: 1/30/2008 4:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 7830    I dont consider myself repub or dem....but my sister is a true red repub till she dies..yet shes miserable lol. shes also one of the most loving, giving and caring people ive known in my life. so i think all the generalizing being done in here is unfair.  
Date: 1/30/2008 5:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    ^^ I only consider you Conservative/Republican/Constitutionalist if you believe the things they are supposed to believe in. Which is why I said on Paper thats what I am. I find most "Republicans" are not very "Republican" at all.  
Date: 1/30/2008 5:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Some people do not even know that they are not "Republican" heh.  
Date: 1/30/2008 5:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 24673    Most of the Dems I know act like the "sky is falling" all the time--always doom and gloom. So that would be my guess as to why they are mostly miserable. I'm Rep., not rich and happy.  
Date: 1/30/2008 6:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 998    Where ever there is a line drawn in the sand, there will be winners and losers. I have never wanted to decide to be on one side or the other. That doesn't make me a fence sitter .. I think that puts me squarely in a position of watching what everyone is doing. I vote for the best person for the job, with the best strategy for getting it done .. period. I think our government needs to be more accountable for every dollar, and where and when the important items on the agenda will get something done on them. Call me neither Republican nor Democrat .. but a realist.  
Date: 1/30/2008 6:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 998    And Base .. nice to see you back here raising questions. We have been missing your posts around here !!   
Date: 1/30/2008 9:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 30093    Base and Wiley certainly have an amazing sense of humour.  
Date: 1/30/2008 10:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 21903    I am stuck on the money thing. Interesting discussion topic though  
Date: 1/30/2008 10:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 21903    I fully agree with Wiley's first statement. And maybe a utopia may never be able to exist, but why just shrug it off at that and go on being selfish or careless? Shouldn't we strive for something close to a utopia. I do tend to take the weight of worldly issues on my shoulders. I wish I didn't, but being the kind of person I am (in general, not b/c I'm a dem) I just worry about others a lot. But I too, am NOT UNhappy. I am generally pretty happy, and happiness is relative, so who can really say that the republican whose income is equivalent to mine (which is about 10,000 b/c I'm a student) is happier than me?  
Date: 1/30/2008 10:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 63194    My generalization is based on those I know personally.  
Date: 1/31/2008 6:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 2030    Thank you Wiley and to further throw off your existential bearings I also support Ron Paul (primarily because of his fair tax stance). And I wholeheartedly agree that face to face charity or charitable efforts mean much much more than sending cash to some proffesional "charity" that is maintained to employ the people running the charity. The Federal Government being a prime example of that, and with the power to forceably take your money from you.  
Date: 1/31/2008 7:12:00 AM  From Authorid: 15228    Ginger, I'm truly curious, have you ever actually voted for a Republican for a major office? I find most independents and realists usually espouse liberal to moderate idea's, but talk about there independence and almost always vote Democrat. The only exception I know to this are my mother/father-n-law. They call themselves democrats, but since I've known them, at least for the Presidency, they've always voted republican. I think they probably vote Democrat for the local offices and their state reps. I think of them as Reagan democrats.  
Date: 1/31/2008 9:50:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    Do not get me wrong, I do not support Ron Paul, he is just not provably evil and the rest are. His ideas also make the most sense. AKA like you mentioned Flat tax, such as 0. Breaking the IRS like it constitutionally should be because a man's labor without putting a "Retail Value" on it and seeing what "Profits" are made you cannot legally tax it. Going back to the Gold Standard slowly is also needed. If I supported Ron Paul and he lied to me with all his ideas that make /Duh Sense then I would be dissapointed but he does look like the best choice. Too bad the script doesn't have him possibly winning so far because he so far is the only "provable" Republican/Conservative. The only two things I can find remotely evil on the man is that he was once in a Fraternity, mild of course compared to Skulls and Bones, and he that old news that his name was on those "Official Letterheads" that supposedly proved Racism. It wasn't buyable then and it isn't buyable now. The man, unlike every other slime politician, did the facinating thing of Honing up to it and taking responsibility instead of doing the Usual politician thing and running for the wind. BTW I always address everything I say in an Agnostic tone, there is actually more evidence that Something does exist other than nothing so I would be far from an Atheist.  
Date: 1/31/2008 9:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    I will note that your comment further makes me feel like the Twilight Zone is running again with yet another revival.  
Date: 1/31/2008 9:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 30093    I'd hate to turn this topic into a Ron Paul topic, but I HAVE to address Wiley on what he said. Ron Paul owned up to the racism in his newsletter? Certainly, after it was brought to the public attention. That's no different than any other politician. I happen to like Ron Paul, personally, but he DID allow the racist remarks to be in something he controlled. So either he's a racist or incompetent in certain areas.  
Date: 1/31/2008 10:01:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    ^ He didn't even KNOW about it until they brought it up. It doesn't prove incompetence. Defrauding the FCC with 4 underreports like Hillary did, with News Coverage about the event throughout the years revealing this, would be incompetence. Making up your own interpretations (Actually reguritating someone elses) also suggests incompetence because you cannot stand on your own laurels and think for yourself. Not only did the man not know about it but he accepted responsibility right away. The fruit cakes that actually attack someone who finally does something humble never surprise me.f  
Date: 1/31/2008 10:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    Look beyond prejudice because "Attacking" that subject is sad.  
Date: 1/31/2008 10:11:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    TBH someone who wants a Utopia and expects us all not to trust one another is the funnier part. Remind me if you ever write a Newsletter for me that I am not supposed to Trust you at all not to go Racist on me. (In only a few of Many Newsletters) and that I should read them all just in case in one of them you up and go Racist.  
Date: 1/31/2008 10:20:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    ^^ BTW The writers of those News Letters where not provably racist either. Just provably politician pandering to a certain crowd to earn support. They did what they could do, put out a few statistics on a few of the newsletters that where not exactly inaccurate, just not ACLU sensitive. Nobody ever argues the Acuracy of those few, OMG OMG Such a Big Deal to Attack Ron Paul By Proxy /YAY, statistics. Just that they where frowned upon and uncouth to the ACLU. These are the same people that do not want you to be angry about Illegals having Drivers licences and obviously their "Supperior Morality" overshadows your common sense. All the other canidates have done some things that are provably uncouth, directly themselves but here you are focusing on your percieved enemy, grasping at straws with ancient bogus rhetoric. I more than anyone would love to find some real dirt on the man to prove he is a normal Human Politician and fools that spread around garbage like that actually make it more difficult to ever find a real skeleton or when a real skeleton is found it will be scoffed at as another Tin Foil Hat comment made by the usual suspects.  
Date: 1/31/2008 10:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 2030    I'd like to meet the first person who could prove they have never had a racist thought or deed.  
Date: 1/31/2008 10:36:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    ^^ On that note it is the PC ACLU types that actually pretty much force the rendering of our Children's Highschool History Textbooks to exclude things such as how "Racist" Abraham Lincoln was so the children cannot learn from real History.  
Date: 1/31/2008 11:27:00 AM  From Authorid: 30093    Wiley, I'm not sure you actually read anything I wrote. It seems you usually see "Ron Paul" and any negativity in a reply and go into this long tirade. In case you m issed it: I LIKE Ron Paul.. He doesn't have my vote, but I like him and I think his ideas should be spread and understood. I also cannot stand Hillary so I'm not sure why you even brought her up?  
Date: 1/31/2008 11:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 30093    " I'd like to meet the first person who could prove they have never had a racist thought or deed. " Certainly. It's the fact that it was published in his newsletter (authored by him or not) that I was discussing. Maybe we should take the Ron Paul talk somewhere else and keep Base's topic where he intended it to be.  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    When you start naming off which races are statistically a higher percentage of the Welfare System and Prison system it is Not Racist Nanaki. Just ACLU followers think it is even if its true. There is a difference between saying the truth about most illegals in this country coming from Mexico and attacking the Mexican race itself which is actually racist. Get off your high horse and realize you are incredibly wrong and haven't got a leg to stand on. It is possible someone might have embelished those Statistics to garner more support from who they wanted support from but it by no way equals Ron Paul is a Racist. It doesn't even prove the writers of that News Letter are racist. All it says is Ron Paul should sadly be less trusting of News Letters writtin in his name and it is something that he learned from but still took Moral Responsibility for even though they did not represent his views. If you vote for anybody else then that is your problem because it definettly is hypocritical. Every other candidate can be actually linked to actual evil and even actual Racism / Too much "Pride" in ones own race. Not some silly supposed "smoking gun" newsletter by proxy. Its a sad world that you cannot trust someone to write a News Letter for you and you have to read every single word they ever write to discover those few "Statistics" or otherwise that might anger the Morons that think everything is racist.  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    "Nelson Linder, president of the Austin chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), defended Paul, saying that he has known him for 20 years, saw him as a "free thinker", "very intelligent and very informed", talking about "real issues" that "invite attacks on him", who was "correct in what he's saying", and that knowing his intent, he believes Paul has been misconstrued and taken out of context."  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    ^^ That man knows more about Racism and Ron Paul than you. Why not go Tell him your great secret knowledge of "Racism" so he can teach you what reality is.  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    "The magazine also cites a 1993 tax document showing that Ron Paul & Associates reported an annual income of $940,000 for that year. The document listed four Ron Paul & Associates employees in Texas (Paul's family and Rockwell) and seven more employees around the country.[147] This now-defunct entity, in which Paul owned a MINORITY STAKE, was during some periods the publisher of the newsletters; at other times, they were published by the Foundation for Rational Economics and Education, a nonprofit Paul founded in 1976"  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    I do not "Like" Ron Paul. I do not put my "Like" into any politician but I doubt you "Like" Ron Paul or you are just that naive to believe in bogus ancient/revisited Mud Slinging that might as well be anything scripted by Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly the "Harborers of Truth" and "Facts" that they are. You slander the man with bogus you know nothing about and then you sit there and tell me you Like the man and I am spinning some long tirade? It has nothing to do with "Any Perceived Negativity" it has to do with Provable Reality which you know nothing about obviously but want to defend it anyway instead of admitting you may be mistaken as if it would kill you to do so. If you came in here with some documented evidence of Ron Paul accepting Bribe Money or something sinister I would be the first one to spread your information around instead you come with Bogus and expect people to find you Credible? Get real.  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 30093    When you learn to have a rational debate or discussion without it becoming personal or making baseless assumptions, I'll speak to you again. Until then, I'll stick to BCAR or Deb or Base for opponents in intellectual discussion. For now, I'm sure you'll have a great time with your best friend the strawman.  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    If you want to take this somewhere else I suggest you stop posting and make a topic instead of trying to look like you are taking the Higher ground by "suggesting" it. Besides this is possible proof of Base's Topic anyway. You are being blindly biased and more emotionally invested than you should be or you wouldn't be using such a sad/bogus argument to attack a man. "Democrats" tend to get over emotionally involved in something which clouds their reasoning enough to believe in something as foolish as this and try to spread it as truth.  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Nanaki. You would have to be an intellectual first.  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    My best friend is being blunt and tactless by the way. Just because it is Blunt and Tactless doesn't make it any less true. Your friend is the strawman because you grasp at straws and provide nothing of substance. Your arguments where flawed no matter how many times you say Strawman and they do not gain anymore credibility. In fact they lose more credibility. Prove your statements for 100% fact or retract them. It is that simple. If you where rational/humble you would have retracted them already and I would have accepted your retraction. You are the one that has dug your own grave with Mud Slinging Lies, I am just the one filling it back up with provable reality.  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    I got an idea. This website itself has had plenty of things on it that the ACLU would have found more "Racist" than those few Newsletter Articles. Why not call George an incompetent racist for all of them. Same kind of logic and I would defend George just the same if you came slinging that Mud in his direction. I might defend him moreso because George is obviously a Loving man and I like and respect him dearly.  
Date: 1/31/2008 1:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    BTW if I was the one slinging Mud at George I would hope that people would Defend George just the same as I would. If I was a Bag of Wind, spreading lies by proxy from information I heard from a Bogus source, I would want to be called on it and I would not rationalize it further when you are right. I would simply apologize and retract my statements.  
Date: 1/31/2008 2:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 30093    Back on topic: I consider myself neither a Republican or Democrat, but I can see from my vantage point why Republicans might be happier, but it's hard to swing away from the money issue. Just exactly how does one go about measuring a persons happiness anyway?  
Date: 1/31/2008 2:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    ^^ Yes, you have such republican views and are not a Bleeding Heart Liberal who is over emotional about Bogus at all. Like when you made that Post about Horse Racing being so so cruel to the Horse. We all should have taken that as completely true and Not what BCAR said about the matter. Nothing like that wastes your time being over emotional over bogus. You know how you measure happiness. Be Happy.  
Date: 1/31/2008 2:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm496455.html  
Date: 1/31/2008 2:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Back on "Topic" (Even though it still was on Topic Technically). Money has nothing to do with happiness. It can help but bitter people think that those with Money are "Happier" than they are because they have no clue how to be happy themselves. All they can do is be bitter.  
Date: 1/31/2008 2:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    "George Carlin's "The Planet Is Fine"

We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these bloody people kidding me? Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're going to save the bloody planet?
I'm getting tired of that crap. Tired of that crap. I'm tired of bloody Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don't give a crap about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me."
Date: 1/31/2008 2:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Planet has been here for 4.5 Billion years. It isn't going anywhere unless it spontaneously blows up or we do it. It will be fine. The people might disappear but the Planet will be just fine.  
Date: 1/31/2008 2:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 30093    You have to realize that I was a child when I joined this site, and now that I am an adult I realize that 90% of the views posted by that child were pretty silly. I appreciate the effort, though. Why do you have it out for me? I told you I want nothing more to do with you so if the rest of the thread is going to be like this I'm inclined to not post in it anymore.  
Date: 1/31/2008 5:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    ^^ This isn't personal eh. All you had to do was admit you made a bogus statement about Ron Paul being a racist. It really isn't that hard to do to be humble.  
Date: 1/31/2008 5:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    "Date: 1/30/2008 12:01:00 PM From Authorid: 30093 I guess when you don't care about others you have more time to care about yourself." Is this supposed to be a credible comment?  
Date: 1/31/2008 5:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    "Date: 1/30/2008 9:11:00 PM From Authorid: 30093 Base and Wiley certainly have an amazing sense of humour." You going to rationalize that this wasn't childish and you really meant I had an amazing sense of Humor? Why did you even mention Base at that? He made rather serious comments that deserved no mockery, sarcasm, or a condescending reply whatsoever. If he did then I probably would be the first person defending you.  
Date: 1/31/2008 5:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    I am blunt and tactless but all the comments you left where baseless, matter of factly, and holier than thou. I will more than apologize for my "Tactics" if you for one second admitted the things you yourself have done wrong here without backpedaling and rationalizing it further. Finding people that are willing to do that are few and far between, I do not exactly make it easy for them of course, but I am not here to coddle people into possibly doing the right thing. Takes someone that I can truly respect to admit they are wrong in this type of situation. The Rest of the thread will not be like this as long as you either admit your mistakes or you just ignore me and not feign like you are right, while pretending like you want nothing to do with me but still replying to me. In that case I can be satisfied that you do not hold secret knowledge that proves Ron Paul is a racist or any of the other things you said like Republicans do not care for anybody but themselves and their happiness stems from money. I give you a chance to do either, the decision to do either is up to you. If you want to continue to hold onto the bogus though and continue to spread it then you will not just be coddled and allowed to say everything unfettered. All the choices are yours.  
Date: 2/1/2008 10:05:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    "Date: 1/30/2008 12:01:00 PM From Authorid: 30093 I guess when you don't care about others you have more time to care about yourself." That's merely his opinion and view of Republicans. If it's even his true opinion, which I doubt it is. As far as, Authorid: 30093 Base and Wiley certainly have an amazing sense of humour." facetious or not, I'm usually told I have a warped sense of humor so amazing is a step up for me, I'm good with that. lol  
Date: 2/1/2008 10:24:00 AM  From Authorid: 30093    Yeah my comment about Republicans not caring was a joke, not "backpedaling". I guess it's not so easy to convey MY type of humour through text. Such a big fuss over something that wasn't even that funny.  
Date: 2/1/2008 10:45:00 AM  From Authorid: 53284    The most affluent people that I know tend to be Rebublicans. As a group they give more to charity than the democrats that I know. They also donate more time to worthwhile causes then the democrats that I know. But the dems spend far more time worring about racism, climate change, collapse of social security, "no child left behind", the war in Iraq etc. They don't seem to actually be motivated to do anything about their concerns but rather they like to cast blame (It's all George Bushes fault) or just whine about it. I'm a pro labor democrat but actually consider myself a fiscal conservative.  
Date: 2/1/2008 10:51:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    LoL@Base. Now thats some Humor.  
Date: 2/1/2008 10:56:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    "He made rather serious comments that DESERVED no MOCKERY, SARCASM, or a condescending reply whatsoever." BTW That pretty much covers it.  
Date: 2/1/2008 11:03:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    http://www.harwich.edu/depts/hscomp/ROCCO/living.wav  
Date: 2/1/2008 11:06:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    All the Fuss was your own and you still could not own up to your slander against a man that is not here to defend himself which is what all the "Fuss" is. If you go through all my comments that is the only thing that is repeated. Trying to overshadow that isn't going to change anything. "I appreciate the effort, though."  
Date: 2/1/2008 11:12:00 AM  From Authorid: 4309    With that I can pretty much conclude that you have no Secret Knowledge that proves your slander but I was fair, I did give you a chance to prove it but you instead tried to dodge it with nonsense that only made it obvious you where trying to hide the obvious fact you have no proof. You no longer have to try to say Strawmen, Stop Attacking Me Personally, etc etc to try to "Prove" your case. It is obvious you cannot which is all you had to admit and there would have been no "Fuss". You put the eggs in the basket, I just tipped them over. Choices have always been yours to make.   
Date: 2/1/2008 11:19:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    Last author only, I completely agree.  
Date: 2/1/2008 11:20:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    Maybe their lack of motivation stems from their lack of happiness, Wild Bob...kidding people, kidding.  
Date: 2/1/2008 11:35:00 AM  From Authorid: 30093    I'm still unsure as to how you measure somebody's happiness.  
Date: 2/1/2008 11:38:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    I think on this they asked people to rate their happiness, somewhat happy, happy, very happy, not very happy. So, the people themselves rated it. And I'm rather surprised that no one looked it up. The percentages between the Democrats and Republicans weren't all that different under 10 percentage points in difference. Not very many Democrats or Repulicans were "very happy" under 50% on both sides.  
Date: 2/1/2008 11:40:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    I could have got the "very happy" part wrong it may have been a different term. But, I'm just too lazy right now to go back and look it up.  
Date: 2/1/2008 11:45:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 36704    A side note, Republicans have rated as happier dating back to sometime like 1972, so it's not a just in the last few years (Bush regime). It doesn't seem to matter who's in the White House as far as happiness between the two go.  
Date: 2/4/2008 7:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 2030    Perhaps it stems from Republicans being aware that they are responsible for their own happiness while the Democrats are waiting for government funded programs to do so.  
Date: 2/4/2008 10:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    Well base, my daughter has been a repub and a democrate and still says LIFE SUCKS. So guess it doesn't matter what one is huh? LOL  

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