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I need some help here.... Messages from the Ex. :(

  Author:  20669  Category:(General Advice) Created:(7/19/2008 8:39:00 AM)
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If you had read my other post. "A Year of Learning" You would know that I have had some troubles in the past with my (now) ex-boyfriend.

He has been sending me messages on another site, and I have told him I wished not to speak to him anymore. After the things he has done, I wish not to talk to him. Some of the messages he has been sending me have been quite upsetting, he is trying to make me feel guilty for leaving him, and at times I do. He knows how to push my buttons, and it hurts inside when he says things to me. Yesterday he sent me a desperate message, asking me to call him. And then after that if I didn't want to talk to him anymore, he would let me be. So I called him, told him my peace, and told him I wished not to talk to him. I thought all was well, until this morning, this is the message I received.

(the message below has not been altered in any way)

"Well you made it clear that you'd rather not talk to me so that means theres really only one thing left to do, because you prolonged my death and let me feel love before the end, i should thank you, but you may not think i'm thanking you for i am about to make a life altering decision, well more like life ending, and because you dont care, it hurts me too much, i cannot live without you so, it's gunna be the end of me, so then your "desperate stupid ex" wont bother you anymore, i literaly ment i'd do anything for you, but my best isnt good enough for you, so that really makes me feel like crap, i'd even move to calgary if that's what you wanted, and the lack of being able to talk to anyone really isnt helping, and as much as i wish there was a chance to get back together apparently you dont want that. and i've been meaning to tell you the group you were hanging around with, think nothing but of themselves. well anyways, i've chosen the traditional hanging because i iguored by the time i realized it hurt i'll be unconsious so it'll be easy, well i'll give you till 5:00 pm to decide if you want me to live or die, choose wisely because im hanging on the edge of a knife, and i dont know if i can take another day of this being ignored. you say nobody cares for you, i seriously cant speak to anyone about this, i can leave messages, but always go unanswered, well enough wasting your time because im to insignafacant for you to care about, and to know that you dont even have a reason for leaving just pulls the noose tighter and tighter, well i guess this is goodbye then, see you in the next life."

I don't know what to do in this situation, and I am kind of freaking out here. Please can anyone give me any sort of advice?! I have told him why I left, why I can't be with him.. and now this... :(

Thank you in advance.

FOD

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Date: 7/19/2008 8:45:00 AM  From Authorid: 23075    the first word that comes to mind is "MANIPULATION" I don't know what else to tell you except that I hope things work out okay.  
Date: 7/19/2008 8:46:00 AM  From Authorid: 10245    forward it to his parents or a family member. no one should be held hostage like that.  
Date: 7/19/2008 8:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 64365    He's trying to blackmail you into coming back to him, and that's sad. So, what you do is correct his spelling, his punctuation, and grammar, and send the letter back to him....without any other explanation.  
Date: 7/19/2008 8:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 49689    Use common sense if it's another site then take it up with the people that run that site, change your name, or just leave that site..I'm sure there is something in their TOS that harassment isn't allowed.Would you stand there and take it,if he were in your face? Doubtful so there's no reason that you have to take it on the internet either!  
Date: 7/19/2008 8:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 63026    your being manipulated, and being held hostage. Set yourself free, and don't talk to him anymore.  
Date: 7/19/2008 8:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 3901    This boy is manipulating you terribly. I've been in the same situation as you before and while I can't say for certain, they are probably empty threats. For your peace of mind, is there a way you could contact the authorities in Alberta and let them know your ex is potentially suicidal and you would like him to be put on suicide watch? You have his message as evidence. I think you should find a way of cutting all ties with him. Delete any accounts he knows of and just start over, you're definitely better without him and without this guilt trip he's attempting to put you through. What he is doing is not right. It is not love and in the end, if he ends up manipulating you enough to go back with him things will be worse than before. I really and truly hope you the best and if you ever need to talk or just sort things out in your head you can drop me a line.  
Date: 7/19/2008 8:56:00 AM  From Authorid: 63743    Call a family member or the police and let them know about the situation (I would pick the police so that you dont have anything to do with his family either), dont let him make you feel upset or down cause obviously you made the right choice, someone that puts this kind of pressure on someone else does not love you and its thinking only about themselves.  
Date: 7/19/2008 8:56:00 AM  From Authorid: 49689    And No you don't want to contact him back..If you do then he'll know that he has gotten to you and he'll only sink his meat hooks in further!  
Date: 7/19/2008 9:01:00 AM  From Authorid: 63743    I hope everything turns out ok and if you need someone to talk to I'll be here :) (((HUGS)))  
Date: 7/19/2008 9:09:00 AM  From Authorid: 12709    Woah. Personally, I'd try turning that in to the police or something.  
Date: 7/19/2008 9:10:00 AM  From Authorid: 12709    I like Nani's response.  
Date: 7/19/2008 9:21:00 AM  From Authorid: 13546    You know how I feel about this situation. You know how I have felt since I met this guy, he always had this bad vibe around him, and I always stuck to my guns about it, but being your sister, when you were with him, I tried to accept him, but I couldn't. He was draining you of everything, taking over your life, and not in a good way. I watched as the year went by, and you sunk lower and lower, and farther from us, your family. And we couldn't do anything... I knew there was something more, and it angers me that he had did this to you. When you have already been through so much... He doesn't deserve you!!! We will get this figured out.. you are not going to talk to him again.. he is trying to guilt you, like always, and this time he will NOT win, because we are here with you. I don't think he will be bothering you much anymore.... We should call the authorities and end this once and for all.. Your brother-in-law had a ... "conversation" with him.. maybe now it will stick!!! to LEAVE YOU ALONE! God... I love you.. I'm sorry things have gone so wrong for you... but you are on the right track again. *hugs*  
Date: 7/19/2008 9:26:00 AM  From Authorid: 64566    Send letter to law authorities and his relatives and parents. I agree with Mercury and Karlita.  
Date: 7/19/2008 9:29:00 AM  From Authorid: 14909    What a load of Bull. Don't listen to him. What you can do is call the cops and tell him that he's suicidal and show them the text. They'll get him the help he needs. That way you know you did everything you could to save his life and won't have to feel guilty for his death. But after that just keep moving on hun, your doing great.  
Date: 7/19/2008 9:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 4995    HEAD GAMES..that's all this is...you deserve better and WILL get better then someone like this. I dont know youre whole situation but DON'T take him back. Not like this. Or,if nothing else,write a strong letter back telling him go ahead you refuse to be manipulated and wish him the best and say you are out to go on a date. They HATE that..trust me...:)  
Date: 7/19/2008 10:05:00 AM  From Authorid: 64365    I've been down this road before, and found an indifferent response is the best approach. The message is clear. He's trying to guilt you into loving him, and that can't be done....no matter how much guilt he lays on you. Blackmail and stalking are punishable by law. Don't let him know you are afraid he will go ahead and do it, just demonstrate you don't care. He'll get the message. And, if he can't make it hurt you, he'll go away and lick his wounds, hopefully...if you turn it into the police as a suicide threat, they'll probably come out and handcuff him and take him to the nearest Psyche facility for an observation period. That might be good, but it also might make him mad. Hopefully, it will embarass him to the point he will crawl into the nearest hole and leave you alone.  
Date: 7/19/2008 10:14:00 AM  From Authorid: 62618    he is a threat to himself, to you and to society in general. you are doing the right thing by being strong and standing your ground. Don't let him hurt you any more than he already has, let him know that if he hurts himself he is doing it on his own.  
Date: 7/19/2008 10:34:00 AM  From Authorid: 64497    No one has a right to make you feel this way, and I repeat NO ONE. He sounds like he has a lot more problems that you just leaving him, and I think it is a good thing you left. I would do as many other have suggested, contact a family member and let them deal with this. Cut all contact with him, this guy sounds crazy. You don't deserve to have this kind of emotional blackmail, and I have a feeling it might be an empty threat.  
Date: 7/19/2008 10:48:00 AM  From Authorid: 51393    If anyone truly wants to die for the sake of love,he or she will do it without a word.Like what everyone hear says,"manipulation" is all you have here sweety.I would not worry so much,if i were you.Ignore him and move on with your life....Take care..Much love and God Bless....  
Date: 7/19/2008 11:00:00 AM  From Authorid: 25390    Don't fall for it. If you're concerned w/him actually doing something, forward it to his parents and then add him to your ignore list. DO NOT talk to him in any way, shape, or form. He doesn't believe that you don't want to talk to him, because..well..you're talking to him!! You need to cut all ties with him and just ignore, ignore, ignore.  
Date: 7/19/2008 11:07:00 AM  From Authorid: 27705    I would print it out and take a copy to the authories and also get in contact with his family but DO NOT contact him yourself best wishes im sorry you are going through this he doesnt care for you if hes playing these messed up games  
Date: 7/19/2008 11:29:00 AM  From Authorid: 42945    Have no contact at all with him hun, none whatsoever. You obviously still have some feelings for him, and he most probably knows it. But, do not answer his messages and try to forget him, try extra hard....{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}} Gramma  
Date: 7/19/2008 12:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 48809    Author, this guy is being very dramatic and childish and is trying to frighten you into doing what he wants you to do.This guy obviously believes that if he hangs himself that he will not know anything more ever again and that he will be free from his sadness. He is SO WRONG! Tell him that the minute he passes over he will be wide awake and in a very dark place and he will be very sorry that he has committed suicide . He may even be sent right back here again and into a situation that is even worse than what he has now.Tell him if he wants to kill himself then it will be up to him to explain to God why he wasn't man enough to face up to what has happened.  
Date: 7/19/2008 1:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 4144    well, is it 5:00 yet? i know. i sound like a cold hearted witch. lets just say i've been there. my daughter's ex used to do the same thing to her. she would go running back and he would get his way just like he wanted. about a year ago i found one of his many suicide letters. sounds a lot like your message. i can't tell you what to do but i can tell you that the guy is a selfish you know what. he doesn't care about you or anybody else. i say send the message to a family member and let them deal with him. do NOT let him dump on you this way. sorry if i come off sounding like a witch (or whatever) but i have no sympathy for people who commit suicide or threaten to commit suicide. and remember, no matter what it's not your fault if he does it or doesn't do it. it's his choice and his alone.  
Date: 7/19/2008 1:32:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 20669    Thank you to everyone who has commented. i feel so much better knowing that there are people who care, and people who have been through what i'm going through. Thank you again. :) I did talk to his brother, and hopefully he'll talk some sense into the guy. Other than that, i'm cutting off all contact with him. It's going to hard, but i have wonderful friends, my family, and all of you guys to help me through this.  
Date: 7/19/2008 5:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 13297    Basically my input is the same as everyone elses. Just keep your family and friends close by as you will need their support as you go through this. *hug*  
Date: 7/20/2008 2:06:00 AM  From Authorid: 35720    What a moron. Unfortunately, I tried the exact same nonsense on someone I cared about in the past.. it was manipulative, unfair, and just a horrible thing to do. He didn't fall for it and neither should you. Chances are he IS just a "desperate, stupid ex" and you should go on ignoring his childish cries for attention. He will get over it.  
Date: 7/20/2008 7:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 15677    i had an ex do this to me over an over an over an over i went runnin to save him. he never really went thru with it, i called the cops many times his family but it got to the point where one day i had to say im sorry i love you an good bye, i then sat down in the floor an cried like a baby in my moms arms....all for nothin...he didnt do it. it was all a game to get me. i would report him to family an the police an walk away dont answer anymore messages your just feeding his need and he will move on.  
Date: 7/21/2008 12:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 52489    This guy is Bad News. He's a jerk who is trying to control you by manipulating your emotions. Don't let him do it. Save his emails in a special file and if he continues to try this, tell him that his emails will be used as evidence in your filing a Restraining Order against him. Many police agencies and ISPs recognize Cyber Stalking as a crime. Unless he wants to spend the next few years making license plates, he'll leave you alone. Hang in there!  

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