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Obama or McCain? Take your pick and explain why.

  Author:  63644  Category:(Discussion) Created:(8/29/2008 1:21:00 PM)
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Who's side are you on? If I could vote, I'd vote for Obama. I'm not necessarily a "Democrat" or a "Republican." I just think Obama is the better candidate this time around. Obama-Biden seems a better choice than McCain-Palin.

I've seen, in various places on this site, that people have a "bad feeling" about Obama. For those of you with that "bad feeling," what exactly causes it?

I personally think McCain's set to continue those failed Bush policies - where will that get us? Nowhere...

Obama's speech yesterday was amazing - do you agree or not?

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Date: 8/29/2008 1:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 11176    I happen to agree with, though I wish Clinton was still in the race  
Date: 8/29/2008 1:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 11176    with you I mean  
Date: 8/29/2008 1:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 7830    Im for Obama. Another "Bushey" in the whitehouse will continue to throw this country into a worse economic state. McCain doesnt acknowledge any problems going on right now in the country's economy and thats a problem. The fact that its hard to find a job higher than min. wage is a problem, even for the military vets or college educated. The fact that thousands of jobs are being outsourced overseas and leaving many unemployed is a problem. The fact that food prices are up nearly half of what they were last yr this time, but wages are NOT going up is a problem, and its because of middle east oil dependency. The fact that I have to involve the state into my life just to get my kids healthcare is a problem, and that I cant go to see a doctor when im ill, unless I want to shell out $500-1000 per visit is a problem. Obama stands to do his best to BEGIN to fix these issues. True he wont be able to fix the mess our current government has made in the past 8yrs immediatly, but it's a good start as long as we get the greedy jackals out of the whitehouse and get someone in there who actually cares about our country and keep them there! If McCain is in office we'll be no better off.  
Date: 8/29/2008 1:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 10722    Best choice? Neither...  
Date: 8/29/2008 1:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    If I can personally get over Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers (and his wife), and his more Socialist proposals (and the effect it would have on our taxes), I will vote for him. I was not impressed after reading his book. And, I had to get over the whole "South-Side" of Chicago problem I had/have with him. But I admit, I was deeply impressed with his speech. Yes, there were a lot of "pretty words", but he has a fire about him. So, we will see....  
Date: 8/29/2008 1:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    I truly believe that Obama is going to win.  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 29532    Obama \ Biden 08! I could and will go on forever about why vs. McCain n co, but why now, I did enough already today lol  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 29532    I really appriciate Shai, she really studies up well.  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 21903    I find Obama to be the better candidate b/c Hillary is right: Can't see the diff between McCain and Bush and I hate where this country is right now...time for a change.  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:07:00 PM  ( Admin )   No more war.... War was a bad idea to begin with and it's still a bad idea.
Date: 8/29/2008 2:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 61977    McCain, is my choice this election year. In my opinion he is the best choice out of the two candidates. I have to choose one, and I might as well choose the one who harbors, MANY of the same values and beliefs that I have. No need for any further explanation or reasonings, IMO!!  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 64637    I second Mother Love, couldn't have said it better myself~~~~MidnightSun  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:38:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 63644    What are those values and beliefs, Mother Love?  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 50193    I agree with AX.  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 11240    Why I have "bad feeling" about an Obama presidency: His mantra for "change" is just shallow. He is controlled by the Democratic party machine whose only desire is to change the party in control of all branches of the government. His stated policy "changes" will cost this country billions upon billions of dollars to accomplish which I keep hearing him say "I will fund" and I wonder what is stopping him from giving all his money and all that ridiculously spent campaign money into working programs NOW? Of course, the reason he won't is because he is not offering "his" money to these changes but, rather, OUR money as in the U.S. taxpayer. There is only ONE change that will put this country in a position that actually looks like change, and that is to change our reliance on either of these two parties. Listen to the Libertarian Party candidate if you don't want to vote for the "lesser of two evils". He won't be in the debates, though, unless insisted upon by enough people. Unfortunately, he just doesn't have enough money to bang with the big spenders. How about CHANGING that? (I.e., that obscene amounts of money are spent to get a president elected to run our "FREE" country?) How about CHANGING the debate set-up? How about CHANGING the way in which our government runs -- into an efficient governing board vs. a bloated bureaucracy? How about CHANGING this country into one where EQUAL OPPORTUNITY is seen as in existence simply because a person is born and living in this great country, not one where the government is of the "hope" that throwing money into all sorts of social programs will result in a "equal opportunity" for every person in this country? I so had to laugh at a poster I saw the other day. It read: "Stop the drama. Vote Obama." Oh, geez, I have seen more drama from this guy and his supporters than any attempt to deal with REALITY. The reality is that most of our elected officials are power drunk and hold themselves above us pesky people that they are there to serve. I get that feeling from Obama also, in reading about him, that he holds himself above his extended family in Africa, his elders, and his fellow elected officials. You asked. JMHO. God Bless.  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 61977    Very nicely stated Deb, and I couldn't agree with you more.  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 63647    Obama '08! :] If only I could vote...~Jammy  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 19613    If Europeans could vote we would elect Obama by an overwhelming majority. Maybe that’s a mark against him for some of you though ;) It does show that Obama is the man most of us believe can restore America’s standing on the world stage. The only Irish people I’ve heard who spoke against Obama, did so because of his stated aim to punish companies that outsource. We’ve profited here from American companies setting up due to tax incentives and the like. Obama bringing these jobs back home can only be good for America.  
Date: 8/29/2008 2:57:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    I was incredibly impressed with last night's speech.... it's rare that a politician's words can move me, but he managed it. I'm still undecided and will most likely remain that way until t-time.  
Date: 8/29/2008 3:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 53284    I'm caught on the horns of a dilemma. The current administration has been a disaster for business. As I approach retirement (a faint light at the end of a long long tunnel) I need a strong economy in order to retire. I don't think that social security will be there in any significant way past the year 2020. I see McCain as far less than an expert on the economy and as such can't see myself voting for him. On the other hand, Obama tends to be a bit of a socialist. When I look at his web site, I can't see how he plans to pay for all the services that he wants to offer. So, I'm not too excited about either candidate. I think that whoever is elected will have the troops out of Iraq in a couple of years. I'm also a little concerned that McCain might view the military as a solution looking for a problem and I'd really rather not have the US military be the "world police force". I do think that Obama would try a more diplomatic approach to world affairs but there are some nations that won't respond to words alone... So, in reality, I don't know who I'll vote for.  
Date: 8/29/2008 4:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 53284    I think that I liked Obama's choice for VP better than McCain's choice. Obama chose Biden who is very experienced as a politician and who, in my opinion, could fill the shoes of president if that were to become necessary. McCain chose Palin, who has very little political experience and has only been governor for less than 2 years. She does not have the experience that I would like to see in a world leader. I have to give Obama credit in his first big decision by choosing someone who can take the reins of office should it be necessary.  
Date: 8/29/2008 4:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 29532    Amen bob. God love ya!  
Date: 8/29/2008 4:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 11240    Wouldn't his "first big decision" be to run for president in the first place? And his judgment in picking an experienced running mate -- what happened to his judgment when he made that "first big decision" in the first place? And if his presidency is meant to "change" our country, how does picking a running mate that has been a part of the status quo for 30+ years equate to change? Circles, I tell you. God Bless.  
Date: 8/29/2008 5:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 19613    I presume that for any actual change to be achieved, it can’t be a case of simply parachuting a lot of new politicians into Washington, rather, it requires working with everyone who is willing, to achieve progress. As for Obama’s first big decision, presumably the millions of people who have and will vote for him, are convinced and glad that he made the decision to run.  
Date: 8/29/2008 5:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 34663    McCain if your going to force me to chose but I question his roots, I don't believe he's african american, especialy since he has no roots to trace and with a name like Barak Obama he is of course from the middle east and a possible terrorist. If he is brought into office who knows what havic he may reek, but then again I may be wrong and the reason he is hiding his past is because he doesn't want to be labled a terrorist but thats unlikely but he does have some good views and if gets in office and doesn't bring in all his friends from the middle east to take over the country he would do good  
Date: 8/29/2008 5:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 2030    There was a hotly contested primary 8 years ago, between two men who were very much divided on how their party shouldmove into the future. One was George Bush. the other was John Mcain. Mcain would have been a good choice then. Personally I Mcain is a very good man who follows his heart, and I would rather he retire and earn the peace he deserves in the later part of his life instead of the thankless and self destructive job of President. As I've said before I'm a registered Libertarian but more than anything I'm anti Democrat, with their pandering they are responsible for more poverty and government dependance than any natural or man made disaster, Obama is just the latest and probably worst example. So figure that out.  
Date: 8/29/2008 5:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 62993    I would say neither. I'm moderately conservative with libertarian leanings. I would vote for any candidiate that's not Obama to keep Obama out of the Oval Office. I'm likely going to vote for Bob Barr, instead of Mccain, though I might look into Palin's record. Obama's speech last night was impressive, but he is all style and no substance and far too leftist for my choice. Yes, our ecomony is failing, we have to worry for about gas prices and eventually resources, but Obama's rhetoric about the government providing everything cetainly won't help the economy. Mccain is too much like Bush, who helped our country fall into the problems that we have now. That's my opinion right now.  
Date: 8/29/2008 5:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 5301    ...if I lived in the states and I had to make a choice between the current options, I'd probably just stay home, get drunk and get a head start on everyone else that thinks that either of the two candidates is going to make a definitive influence or impact on your daily lives other than emptying your wallet faster. No choice is not a good choice.  
Date: 8/29/2008 6:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 19613    ...wow.  
Date: 8/29/2008 6:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 36352    Neither I was going to vote for Hilary. Mccain is another bush, no thanks. And Obama is fear of the unknown and scares the hell out of me and I really wanted to like him and he is a likeable guy but then so was Ted bundy, so you can't go by that alone.

Love and Smiles :o)JJ
  
Date: 8/29/2008 6:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 16376    Obama. There are many reasons that I am for him. As for McCain, I don't hate him, but I would not like to see him as president. I really don't like the fact that he picked a vice presidential candidate with only two years experience as well. If he were to die in office, we would be stuck with an ultra conservative woman with hardly any experience.  
Date: 8/29/2008 6:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 15157    If Obama gets elected I fear all hecks gonna break loose. Don't ask me water kinda Heck...I just know.
McCain was smart to make his choice of his running mate. All eyes and fingers who wanted Hillary will get his vote. I have never been so disappointed in the Presidental choices as I am in this one. All those people will have died in vain for the war.

  
Date: 8/29/2008 6:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 31531    I personally don't like neither.So I won't be voting.I feel very very bad vibes for either one.Something just isn't right here.Changes are good but not on this one.Just my opinion and feelings.I think this Country is in deep doodoo.>>HUGS>>  
Date: 8/29/2008 7:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 25481    I still haven't decided and I don't know how to make up my mind!!! I was an Edwards fan in the beginning and since he dropped out I haven't picked someone new.  
Date: 8/29/2008 7:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 64154    Mccain is a war freak,and Obama is a baby killer.Either way,we lose.  
Date: 8/29/2008 8:38:00 PM  From Authorid: 16376    It is also funny because I have many friends that are republicans but are voting for Obama. My grandfather for example is very anti-democrat, but recently told me he is voting for Obama. I guess only time will tell whether he will win or not.  
Date: 8/29/2008 9:35:00 PM  ( Admin )   I have always thought McCain was good person and one of the best politions in Congress. I would have voted for him except for the two things he believes that are problematic for me. 1. The war was and is a good idea and 2. John McCain said that he considered $5 million in income the threshold for being rich in America. That would me that slightly less than that would be upper class. That puts middle class in the $1-2 million mark. I think he has lost touch with the real numbers.
Date: 8/30/2008 1:19:00 AM  From Authorid: 37900    I will be voting for Senator McCain because I believe he has the proper perspective on the issues that affect us most. His answer to the question of how to handle evil is succinct and decisive: “Defeat it.” There is evil in the world, and there are evil people. Face-to-face negotiations with people that have expressly stated their intent to destroy another nation is futile and a waste of Presidential clout. Senator McCain understands why jobs are leaving U.S. soil: the tax code is prohibitively unfair, punishing any company that dares to make what some arbitrarily term “windfall profits.” Senator McCain understands that it is not Americans that are the problem, but elitist Congress-people that refuse to solve the problems because solutions would remove them from power. Why can’t our leaders pass a balanced budget and live within their means? Why can’t they give the President the power of line-item veto? Why can’t they drop the Federal gas tax and help “the little guy”? It’s not that they can’t; they won’t. Senator McCain knows that Big Government is the problem, not the solution. Senator Obama doesn’t seem to grasp any of this, and that is why I favor his opponent.  
Date: 8/30/2008 7:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 11240    I simply cannot believe that a man who spent five years as a prisoner of war is bound and determined to make other people endure that. In fact, it would seem that the converse would be more in keeping with someone who had to go through what McCain did in Vietnam. Why would parents whose own children took the call to serve our comfy behinds sitting around talking about this WANT to put their own kids what this man has been through? It is counter-intuitive to me to think of McCain as a "war-monger". I think of him as a REALIST, who understands reality isn't the movies . . . God Bless.  
Date: 8/30/2008 10:23:00 AM  From Authorid: 34663    Another problem with Obama is he wants to yank out all our troops at one and that would have a realy bad effect and McCain wants to gradualy bring them home. Also McCain being a POW and war expert would great in office for the war against terrorism, and why would Obama want our men back so quickly, is it so he can then import his terrorist buddies over here, and then he'll give them jobs in office and the terrorist will slowly take us over from the inside out  
Date: 8/30/2008 1:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 24673    McCain knew some idiot would bring up that $5 million dollars statement! Of the two running I thing McCain is better for the job.  

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