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Operation Gunwalker, a scandal with a body count

  Author:  15228  Category:(Discussion) Created:(9/28/2011 7:21:00 AM)
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For those who don’t know, the Gunwalker scandal goes like this: For whatever reason, the ATF decided that it was a good idea to let guys that they knew were buying guns in mass quantities to give to the Cartels in Mexico… go ahead and do it.  Those weapons were then used to murder at least a couple of hundred people, including American federal agents, like Border Guard Brian Terry.  They were giving guns to guys that were, in the words of the ATF, “stone cold killers.”

The DoJ initially denied knowing anything about it.  As the investigation has proceeded, not only did the DoJ know, but the FBI was probably involved in destroying evidence in the Terry case, and the connections go all the way to the White House.

Now, it turns out that the ATF didn’t just let them buy guns — they went ahead and bought a few of them directly and swept the paperwork under the carpet.  This goes way past Watergate.  This is like deciding to replace the “plumbers” with FBI agents, and they happened to kill a few security guards at the hotel on the way.

Watergate didn’t have a body count.  Gunwalker has hundreds.

http://phelps.donotremove.net/2011/09/way-past-watergate/

I remember a couple of years ago Obama giving a speech about guns flowing across the border into Mexico.  I remember thinking at the time it was kind of strange, since most guns trafficked into Mexico come from South America.  He said it several times, including when the President of Mexico was visiting. 

I have no idea who would come up with such a hair-brained scheme, maybe it had something to do with getting tighter gun control legislation??  They didn't count on a border agent being killed with one of the guns though.  I guess Mexican citizens were just collateral damage.  Also, a gun dealer knew he was probably being set-up to take the fall if anything happened, so he taped conversations he had with the FBI.

Seems to me if the press were at all interested this story could be pretty big.  However, I think they're more interested in protecting Obama.  Maybe you can come up with an alternate explanation because normally a scandal with a body count would be a pretty big deal

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Date: 9/28/2011 7:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 2030    No it's all about a trumped up jobs bill and more political infighting on both sides. I'm sick of the whole bunch.  
Date: 9/28/2011 8:16:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Oh, you mean the jobs bill that Obama wanted passed two weeks ago? The one that wasn't even written when Obama insisted it be passed? The one that is so important that Harry Reid is the only sponsor in the senate, and he won't even bring it to the floor for a vote until after the senate break. The one that is like the first stimulus that didn't work?? That jobs bill??  
Date: 9/28/2011 8:19:00 AM  From Authorid: 13729    Watergate, a simple break and enter gone bad lol, what a bunch of bumbling fools. But this is right along the lines of the Iran/Contra. Why isnt this a huge story?...  
Date: 9/28/2011 8:23:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Worse than Iran/Contra even because I don't know of any American citizens who died as a result of that. This isn't big because the press has chosen to ignore it.  
Date: 9/28/2011 12:19:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Just read that charges may also result from two investigations by Mexican authorities, and Mexico could file charges with the International Criminal Court.

  
Date: 9/28/2011 12:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 2030    All in an attempt to target some American gun dealers who MIGHT have been selling guns to straw buyers who in turn sold them to drug cartels. The ATF decided to cut out the middleman and became the middleman. Nice,So what if a couple hundred Mexicans and a border gaurd get killed?

Pretty much falls in line with the ATF wanting to go after outlaw bikers so they co-opted and created their own outlaw biker club. Yea they bought some illegal guns and put a few people in jail and spent Millions. At least their agent who went off the deep end and was then abandoned by the ATF got to write a bestselling book out of it.
  
Date: 9/28/2011 5:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 11240    Well, the funding for this is line itemized in the Stimulus Package. I would think that knowledge is implied by whomever signed that . . .

Thus, the purpose here had to be to stimulate the economy! Why, of course, the Mexican cartels needed this type of protection in order to deliver their goods so that they can make money, employ people, and have all that income out of the realm of being subject to income tax, or even partially into sales tax what with most of it being spent in Mexico. U.S. Government subsidizing the Mexican Drug Business with taxpayers money -- with the only "benefit" to those taxpayers being an increased influx of Mexican citizens fleeing into the U.S. in order to both get away from the volatile atmosphere AND all the "free goodies" provided by the taxpayers.

THAT IS THREE STRIKES AGAINST THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS! ARE YOU READY TO GET OUT OF THIS GAME?

(Heads up, Kelly, here comes a Paul-bot . . .)

The "war on drugs" is spilling into this country, with the result being what you are seeing down in Mexico, be-headings, bombings, gore. If there was no war on drugs, but rather allowed each state to be governed by the people of that state in deciding whether drugs should not be criminalized, individual liberty is exercised and those who wish to live in a state where drugs are not criminalized, can move to that state. That state would ostensibly have laws that allow the growth and sales of drugs within state lines. The sales would be taxed (erasing those three strikes) PLUS there is no loss of liberty to individual freedom, no taxpayer funded punitive measures, and no pumping up the Mexican Cartels.

Since no one is moving fast enough at the federal level to handle this as the obamanation it is, the positive approach is to make sure we don't continue being played. I staunchly believe that the only real hope for real change is the real deal, Ron Paul.

God Bless.
  
Date: 9/28/2011 7:10:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Noooooo, not a paul-bot!! LOL, just kidding ya Deb.  
Date: 9/30/2011 1:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 21435    A friend of mine told me that whenever he complained about shady dealings to his father, his dad had a standard reply: "Boy. if you want to find out who is responsible..."just follow the money trail." Interesting stuff, Kelly. Write on.....  
Date: 10/1/2011 6:43:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Kronk, I don't see this having anything to do with money. It's more to do with tightening gun control I think.  

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