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| Date: 11/28/1999 1:42:00 AM From Authorid: 774 is there a website for this kind of thing? if this is true, then give us the exact date and/or time that WWIII will happen because i for one don't believe it. |
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Date: 11/28/1999 8:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 1461
Author- I've read the book, "The Bible Code" by Michael Drosnin. It held lots of good information concerining the Bible Codes(recomended reading for those who haven't read it!!) This is very informative, GOOD WORK!!. It's amazing how God encoded everything in the Bible(Torah). Have you seen the code they found, suggesting a possible surprise nuclear attack on America on Dec.9th, 10th(this year) by Russia. If not you can go here: http://www.thebiblecodes.com/ to find it. Here is another url that speaks of this soon comining surprise nuclear attack: http://www.nationaleagle.org/ .If these codes are correct then GOD SAVE US ALL, only time will tell. Very Good work!!!, keep it up.....-Taz-  |
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Date: 11/28/1999 8:59:00 AM
hey why don't you write your own story instead of giving us a reprint from a bible code sales ploy. have you heard of plagiarism? that is what its called when you copy something word for word and then take credit for it. while I believe there is a bible code, I don't believe most are translating it well enough to be accurate and now I don't believe you as its a cinch that you have copied this. also few people know what the topical bible says from what I read on this board about 99.9 percent are totally bible illiterate. they need to know what the bible says in english instead of what is coded inside it. the message of the bible is quite clear, accept believe on Jesus Christ and accept him as your savior before he returns to earth or you return to dust. |
Date: 11/28/1999 10:16:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 2282
i could go on and on to site the numerous examples in the book itself or I could make it a lengthy report of all the trials, tribulations, and contacts made that Drosnin wrote about during his research but that would get very dull. I thought I would simply let you know of the book's interesting concept. Some of the information I presented you can read on the flap of the cover, the rest you have to read the book. As for people on this site being biblically illiterate, discuss that with them; I'm not preaching to you.  |
| Date: 11/28/1999 10:48:00 AM My opinion,Is that every man chooses their own path.If one person would have done something different there wouldn't have been WWII.God doesn't know which path you are going to take.He only knows the consequenses for the choices you have before you.God gave men a mind,not a computer chip.He helps you make the right decision,he doesn't choose it for you. |
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Date: 11/28/1999 11:38:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 2282
to comment # 3, I rewrote some of it in response to your plagarism accusation, although I feel I was paraphrasing, not plagarising. In any case, I don't want to take credit for Drosnins' research and I'm not a booksalesman (person) BUT I would like to hear people's input regarding this reported source of future predicitons. thx |
Date: 11/28/1999 12:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 177
I think it takes alot of faith/wishfull thinking, for you to put so much stock in this Drosnin fellow. People will find absolutley anything they want to find in the Scriptures. TC  |
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Date: 11/28/1999 12:42:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 2282
I haven't necessarily 'put faith' in this as much as I find it interesting. Yes, people do read whatver they want in the scriptures but it's entertainint and insightful to find a different unorhtodox use of them that is contrary to the inflexible bible-thumping types every where else. |
| Date: 11/28/1999 12:43:00 PM what stores can u get this book at? also, if god knew what was going to happen, it wouldnt have to mean that He chooses for us, it probably just means that He knows what we will choose for ourselves and what the outcome of that will be so far ahead that He knows exactly what is going to happen in the future |
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Date: 11/28/1999 12:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 2282
probably any major bookstore and most probably amazon.com. it's published by Simon&Schuster. |
Date: 11/28/1999 1:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 1631
I saw a show about this Bible coding and it really was amazing how much information the scholars had gathered through this technique. But now, because Taz mentioned that nuclear attack, I have to spend next weekend looking for a bomb shelter rather than doing my Christmas shopping (just kidding). I'm one of those who find predictions, like the works of Nostradomus, fascinating, but I would really rather not be privy to too much information. Kind of takes the spontenaity out of life. But for those "need to know" types, this is good information!...Ali  |
| Date: 11/28/1999 4:16:00 PM From Authorid: 1071 Sounds like an intersting book. Thanks for letting us in on it. SUZ |
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Date: 11/28/1999 4:21:00 PM
So right Ali, the more you know the less freedom and peace you have, the expense of knowledge has the price of a burden. If the codes prove to be true then I believe that we are looking at the beginning of the end of the world; because that would mean that God has opened the book up to everyone and we would no longer have need of faith to believe in God or to live in faith for God. The bible at the end of the book of Daniel says that "at the end time, that knowledge shall be increased" but the wicked won't understand only the wise shall know that we are at the end. M. |
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Date: 11/28/1999 4:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 1461
M- You have made a valid point. In the book of daniel in the last chapter Ch.12 vs.4 where it says: shut up the words , and seal the book untill the time of the end, encoded in this verse was found the year 1997 & computer. The same year that the bible codes were discovered.Even though God has opened the book for all to see, faith in God is required in order to survive the coming tribulations. We have certainly entered the beginning of the end....-Taz- |
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Date: 11/28/1999 4:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 2242
My opinion is that this is much the same as the theory about the grand gallery in the great pyramid predicting events or Terrance McKenna's timewave zero. I think if you look hard enough you can find a pattern anywhere you want for any thing you want. and i believe its possible it may even work to some extent. But I don't thing it was placed there on purpose. About 10 years ago I read about a guy that had a formula to predict which of the 2 major candidates would become president. It was 100 percent accurate...and it was based on what letters formed there first name. Is there some mysterious force controling who becomes president? well...maybe, but i doubt its determined by the name. But its an interesting concept and i may have to buy the book just to check it out. thanks for the info. ~roland~ |
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Date: 11/28/1999 6:31:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 2282
Hey Roland, does that formula for presidents work for football games also? If so, I have a friend who would be really interested. In a more serious nature, I would understand the disbelief for past events considering how hindsight provides so many more avenues for justification. However, I find it strange regarding accurately predicting the future. The presidential formula would be much more simple to explain because stastically speaking, in most cases it is only a 50% probablility (33.3% in others, realistically). Would like to know more about that little formula though. I just think that this Bible thing is on a more complex scale if it's true. |
| Date: 11/28/1999 10:25:00 PM well taz since I am a born again and believe in the pretribulation rapture of the church, I don't plan on being here to use my faith to make it through the tribulation{-; I know that sounds like "pie in the sky" to some but thats how I read it and I have a lot of time into study. but as for those who might not make the rapture, you make a very valid point as it is always going to take some amount of faith to believe in God. the most religious people of the world at the time of Christ did not believe in God even when He was standing in front of them. |
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Date: 11/29/1999 1:50:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 2282
I don't mean to sound silly and I am not making fun of the above comment but could someone please explain this concept of pre-tribulation rapture? |
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Date: 11/29/1999 8:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 1461
Author- The word rapture, comes from the greek translation of the word rapere, meaning rapid. The words rapere, or rapid, is used to translate the greek expression caught up. The words raptured, snathched, or caught up have come to be used interchangeably.They are used to describe the initial phase of the second coming of Christ, who, by the word of his power, will snatch, catch up or rapture his true church out of the gravitational pull of this planet to meet him in the clouds and to remain forever with him. This event, as noted by many pre-tribulation rapturists, is part of the larger truth of a literal second coming of Christ. Pretribulation rapturism represents the belief that Christ will rapture true believers before the tribulation period or the seventieth week of Daniel begins.....-Taz-.. |
Date: 11/29/1999 9:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 1461
To the comment above 2282(10 5:42 PM): I'm glad you are born again and pre-trib.I also believe that before the great tribulation begins or what some may call the Day of the Lord that Christ will come back and rapture his church. I think you might have mis-took what I said for something else. I was simply stating to M- that although god has revealed to us in our generation the bible codes and for good reason, that doesn't mean that we can now lay aside our faith in God. When I mentioned "trials and tribulations" in the comment above I wasn't reffering to the Great Tribulation, I was reffering to the trials and tribulations that we may face in our everyday life. I believe that things(world events) will get worse before they get better, I don't plan to be left behind when the rapture takes place.Even though no one knows the day or hour I have a strong feeling that it will occur in my lifetime..(if there is any questions on why God would put hidden codes in his word, then go here ttp://www.thebiblecodes.com/faq/purpose.htm.......-Taz-.. |
| Date: 11/29/1999 12:10:00 PM From Authorid: 1036 Seems like a good way to make money to me--if they really believed what the taught and wanted the word out--they would provide the information to you without cost. Yes the Bible does have all the answers--but I will learn to understand them when the time has come!! |
| Date: 11/29/1999 6:06:00 PM From AuthorID2282. Note that the mathmetician (Dr. Rips) who wrote the computer program openly states that, although his work may be able to locate encoded text that can be construed as supportive of past events, he disagrees that it can be used to predict the future. |
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Date: 11/29/1999 11:25:00 PM
Hey taz tried to put this on early today but the stie went down or something so here tis. yes I think we are very much in agreement on what you have said and we are just saying things a bit different, Very well put in stating the pretrib rapture position. I have done a bit of reading on the bible codes including the bible code book but its not near as in dept as one should get on such a topic. As a matter of fact it {the book} is quite topical on the matter of the bible code. there are so many sites on the internet now about it one should not have to go and buy this book as the web sites are free. all one needs to do is type into search "bible code" to come up with many web sites devoted to this discussion; plus there is a book by a guy named Grant Jefferies that is supposed to be a much better written and more indept book. there are even computer programs out not from several companys that let you run your own codes.now afa the trials and tribulation thing; I misunderstood what you were saying, but I have also had my share of trials and tribulations and someone elses to I am afraid. M |
| Date: 11/30/1999 3:29:00 AM nobody ever explain the codes and just say they have codes that show the future. Well i haven't seen them predict anything that hasn't happen yet. They just say owe yah it predicted this and that. I think they just made it up. Nobody can really precisely word for word right in english what the bible says. So how can they precisely predict anything. until they make a prediction and it comes true its a bunch of bull |
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Date: 11/30/1999 3:35:00 AM
Yah we got the right to choose if we want to be good and evil. Nobody can stop u from what u do. I think events like wars and stuff like that are already a done deal and will happen but our choices or whether we want to be apart of these evil ordeals is up to us and that is where god sees what we do. God watches us and see what we do to make see if we deserve to be in heaven. Which i believe everyone should go and everyone should be forgiven for what they did, but i am not god and he desides he is head hancho. |
| Date: 12/1/1999 10:37:00 PM awesome. we would like to know more about the bible code? |
| Date: 12/9/1999 8:45:00 AM Okay, to the second reply, did you hear on the news about the Russian spy they caught that has threatened national security by bugging a meeting room in one of the offices in Washington. My apologies for the vagueness, but I was getting ready for work. The feds are worried how much info was leaked and how long it has been going on. Very interesting! |
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Date: 12/9/1999 10:21:00 AM
This is the report from Yahoo today: A Russian diplomat was caught gathering information from the State Department with an eavesdropping device and ordered to leave the country, ending an investigation that began this summer when his repeated visits outside the building drew suspicion, officials said today. Investigators said the sting underscores that the United States is still a ``desirable target'' for spying by the Russians and other nations. MMC |
| Date: 12/15/1999 6:32:00 PM from AuthorID2282. Well, I think significant time has passed and we haven't been nuked yet by the Russians. Anyone have a comment on that? |
Date: 12/16/1999 12:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 2734
No nukes, just spies. I wonder how the book explained it. I think that it is kind of strange the whole Russian spy thing happened, especially since we, as Americans, have let our guard down. Maybe the code was interpreted wrong and it was supposed to read "unclear" attack instead of "nuclear" attack. :-) MMC  |
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Date: 12/16/1999 1:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 177
Along with this alleged Bible Code, the supposed predictions of Nostradamus as well as things found in the Great Pyramid of Giza are also said to predict the future. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. I've yet to see anything that really immpresses me. TC |
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Date: 12/16/1999 10:17:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 2282
nice touch, MMC |
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Date: 12/19/1999 6:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 1280
That's why God gave us a mind....We can think for ourselves and choose the right path or the worng path. Have you noticed that throughout the entire bible it does not counterdict itslef in any way! All of the scientific explanations try to say that the bible was made up and all that....but if all of those people were to lie about something so great and powerful....wouldn't you think that somewhere one of them would counterdict the other. Just for your general knowledge. ~~~Samantha  |
| Date: 12/29/1999 8:46:00 AM Iam interested in all this stuff and i'm going to read the bible code. |
Date: 12/31/1999 10:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
I must say...I do not understand why many people act as though God is hiding things from us..The purpose of Gods Word..The Bible ..was not to predict but to tell us Gods plan of salvation..and to give us His laws of righteousness..If people would take Gods word in the simplicity that it is given to us ..and obey it..then this would be a beautiful world..I must admit that the book of Revelations is somewhat diffuclt...but the majority of it has already happened and the theme is still the same as the other books of the Bible..That is...Calling all men to repent and be saved from the terrile consequences of the disobedient..Why look for secret codes that is supposedly have come from God...God doesnt play games with His creation...God is so plain on all things that pertains to salvation..I JUST DONT GET IT WHEN MEN MESSES AROUND WITH GODS WORD...If God wanted us to know..He would have told us..and not in codes...  |
| Date: 1/5/2000 3:04:00 PM i have heard about the coded bible before on a television program interesting |
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Date: 1/21/2000 8:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 3392
I've heard many times about the bible telling stories of the under the sea theory of Atlantis and airstrips. But I haven't seen it in scriptures any where. If you find out anything in this I would be interested in reading about it to...receiver  |
Date: 1/22/2000 6:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 3648
I agree with 3125!  |
Date: 1/23/2000 12:32:00 AM
From Authorid: 3400
Well, Dec 10th has come and gone..We didn't blow up!!Aren't you glad! If God, knew in advance what kind of decisions we would make and what the outcome would be...why did he put us here??? I mean, why did't he just put us in heaven..if he KNEW alot of us would mess up and go to hell??? Seems kinda mean to me..I mean he could have prevented alot of eternal torment..instead he created it, created us..and said..go ahead..your going to go to hell anywway! I mean he knew all along, did't he???!!!!  |
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Date: 1/28/2000 9:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
to 3400...God created us and gave us common sense ...God also made us to be upright and good..."In His image made He them"....God doesn't sit there and think..things like .."Oh,This one is going to heaven,this one is going to hell"..We make that choice. We are His creation and God knows all things that are best for us...it is our duty to follow His rules.We, as parents know what is best for our children..even though they don't think so many times.Our children rebel against our authority over them but we know we are wiser and we protect them with our rules....God is the same way...He is much,much wiser than we are..and we may not always understand His ways...but when one learns who God really is...they can see the wisdom in His rules.....Now ..to show you that God doesn't look on us with an all-knowing prediction...In Genesis ..God created man..He thought it was good...Now ..in Genesis 6:6...It repented God that He had made man on the earth and it grieved Him at His heart.All through the Bible you can find places where man disappointed God...Now if man can disappoint God..that would mean that He didn't know that man would be as they are..He gave them chance after chance..but they kept going after evil things. In the New Testament..you will see that God says ..It is not Gods will that any man should perish....You can find so many warnings about what the terrible consequences are for those who continue to do evil....But ..The world continues to grow worse .People continues to ignore Gods warnings...As they did in the days of Noah..Now...God has great love for His creation..God waits patiently for people to come to Him...God doesn't have to do anything..If He wanted us in torment..who..or...what..could stop Him? He could have created us into a hell to begin with..but instead..He gave us all that we need to sustain life ..He made man a little lower than angels...We are more important to Him than the animals ..who have no conscience of what is right or wrong.God loved us enough to give us His words to go by...the Bible...This is where you can learn of the love of God ..if you will study it and be in total obedience to it,you will see that ...GOD DOES KNOW BEST...sincerely |
| Date: 1/29/2000 4:37:00 PM to 3125... Thanx! It's about time someone speaks up for God! I agree with you! Why read into things, why not just take it for what it's worth, and live by it! |
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Date: 3/22/2000 3:59:00 PM
One can take anything and interpret it to mean anything. Why is it, that Mankind constantly goes out of it's way to place a wet blanket of doom on life? I've read the bible and for myself, have found it to be the most depressing book on earth. It holds nothing but doom and gloom and makes many wonder, what's the use of even trying to live life. We came into this life with the greatest of all gifts. Free Will. Now according to the world's Bibles, It's a sin to be alive and a sin to be in existence. If that's the case, then why bother to believe in a god of unconditional love and forgiveness - the Bible seems to cancel that possibility almost immediately. Or, is it just another ploy for the world's religions to once again gain control over the masses by reinforcing fear that well known con game called "guilt" in order to control lives as well as bank accounts? You decide for yourselves - if your have the courage. |
Date: 3/23/2000 4:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 4309
bible code....l0l.....the mans a thief...he stole those predictions from other psychics(which has been proven)...this has been a great controversy for a long time....words are words...theres no hidden meaning...the mans a fraud pure and simple.... |
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Date: 3/23/2000 9:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 3457
Wiley, which prophecies are you referring to and who was the psychic that predicted them first? Mr2282  |
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Date: 3/24/2000 4:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 4309
lol...the thing is its not just that.....mr bible code here doesnt have a clue of what he is talking about...for one there is no hebrew bible that is in gods words...in fact there is no bible that is like that.....the old hebrew writings where much like our bible...they are just translations...not to mention each individual writing,wherever they are found,are translated and written by different men....they are words of men not god...lol....heck in the time when one could say religeon was of "gods words" they hadnt even invented writing yet....long story short men of the past used to create hymms,songs,and tales to teach people of god....memorized mind you...passing this knowledge down from generation to generation....until one day a collection of this knowledge was written down to later become the religeon we have to day....lol....thats the reason the catholic church is named the catholic church....catholic meaning all religeon or collective religeon.....anyway whether its hebrew,christian,or whatever every written account...is just a translation that has been passed down... |
| Date: 3/24/2000 5:53:00 PM Wiley, it is my understanding that the author of this book doesn't consider himself a prophet but he is stating that the Bible is encoded with this information. I had read once that ancient Hebrew and similar languages like Canaanite foms existed as far back as 2 to 3 thousand years BC. These also would be the same approximate timeframes of eras involving the Great Flood or Moses' exploits on Mt. Sinai. I myself, however, also believe that the Bible, because it was written by men of limited scientific knowledge, is as much a fantastic fictional work of literary art in as much as it is a historical reference. Are parts of it truly the direct word of God as taken down by certain men who received his dictation? Well, not being a biblical expert, I don't know. Could you tell me when you believe the 'written Hebrew' language was to have been invented (as it pertains to the old testament being documented)? Mr2282 |
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Date: 3/27/2000 1:03:00 AM
I reckon the bible code is pure coincidence. Check out these sites. AN IMPARTIAL OPINION ON THE "TORAH CODES" http://www.nsli.com/.../torah/ Assassinations Foretold in Moby Dick! http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html |
Date: 4/6/2000 10:07:00 AM
From Authorid: 4739
I have read this amazing book! This book was written by a reporter, but the actual bible code was discovered and prooved by top mathematicians. It's theories have been tested many times over so you cannot blow it off so easily unless you are afraid of what it may really mean. It does not say that God makes these choices for us, but that every possibility and every possible outcome of every possibility is encoded in the bible. The author has every right to bring this book up for debate. For those of you who don't like it then why read it? When Oprah has her book of the month club, is she plagarizing?????  |
Date: 4/14/2000 2:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 5484
ALL I KNOW IS GOD GIVES US THE CHOICE TO SERVE HIM OR NOT!  |
| Date: 4/17/2000 11:22:00 PM I didn't know Oprah had a book o' the month club. It's not one of these "here's a new chicken soup for the soul" kind of things, or is it? Mr2282 |
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Date: 4/19/2000 8:20:00 AM
From Authorid: 4739
Mr. 2282, Oprah's Book of the Month club actually comes up with some really good reading. I don't watch her show because I don't have the time, but I've seen books listed as "suggested reading by Oprah's Book of the Month club"; and have had a couple of chances to see her reviews. The last book was "The Seat of the Soul". Read it! Pretty darn good! But she does a variety of books too. |
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Date: 4/19/2000 9:13:00 AM
From Authorid: 4739
Mr. 2282, Oprah's Book of the Month club actually comes up with some really good reading. I don't watch her show because I don't have the time, but I've seen books listed as "suggested reading by Oprah's Book of the Month club"; and have had a couple of chances to see her reviews. The last book was "The Seat of the Soul". Read it! Pretty darn good! But she does a variety of books too. |
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Date: 4/26/2000 9:04:00 AM
From Authorid: 4739
Oooopppsss! How did that get there twice? |
| Date: 6/12/2000 11:14:00 AM I have read the book and I would recommend it to anyone who loves to be mentally challenged. |
| Date: 7/5/2000 7:23:00 PM ^^^ Thanks... one question... have you had the opportunity to review the critics' side of view? MR2282 |
| Date: 10/2/2000 11:23:00 AM This book only re-affirms what I have felt all my life.Incredible reading , lets hope that it is not too late to heed these warnings |
| Date: 3/3/2001 6:30:00 AM The book by Drosnin is nothing but dribble...everything you need to know is in the Bible for your reading pleasure. You don't need to be able to read Arabic or Acoine Greek to be able to understand it, that's why the Almighty had someone translate it for us and it needs no adjunct books to add to it. The Bible proves itself if not taken apart/out of context. God has protected His book and will continue to do so. |
Date: 6/27/2005 7:20:00 AM
From Authorid: 16376
interesting...  |
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