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Is bombing Iraq the right thing to do?

  Author:  27678  Category:(Debate) Created:(2/19/2001 9:47:00 PM)
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I'm curious to know whether you guys think this bombing was right or not. Here's an interesting column on this.

Why Did Bush Bomb? by LEW ROCKWELL The Clinton administration helped train us to never believe the official rationale for a bombing of a foreign country, particularly an impoverished one. In the 1990s, foreign policy had more to do with domestic woes than with actual international threats, no matter what Clinton or his spokesmen said. But when it comes to providing something believable in place of the truth, the Bush administration seems even less competent than its predecessor. All the Bush White House could come up with for why it is bombing and killing people in Iraq was "self defense." Look: Americans know what self defense is. It’s when you shoot the guy who has broken into your home to attack you. It’s when you blast the fellow who’s trying to mug you or steal your car. It’s a violent action taken to prevent an aggression against your person or property. Transfer the idea of "self defense" to national policy: it is something a nation undertakes when its borders are attacked or its embassies blown up. The US military was not defending itself when it dropped bombs outside Baghdad, even if you believe that Iraq was bolstering its anti-aircraft capacities. When you are standing on Iraqi soil and look up to see US fighters zooming around your airspace, and you look around and see that the country has been beaten to a pulp by ten years of cruel sanctions, and you notice that these planes drop bombs on a regular basis to correspond with US political priorities, you too might consider bolstering your defenses. Let’s call the US bombing what it was, not defense but aggression, an extension of a decade of aggression that has taken both economic and military forms. There is no moral code, no religious tenet, no traditional accepted rule of international law under which such a policy can be seen as anything but immoral. What’s more, it has undermined US credibility yet again, just at the time much of the world was willing to give Bush the benefit of the doubt. What is it about the office of the US presidency that leads men who would never kill anyone in their capacity as individuals to believe that doing so is fine so long as you use a weapon of mass destruction funded by the taxpayer? What does George W. Bush think when he sees pictures of dead Iraqi civilians and wounded women and children? Is he really (like Madeline Albright) prepared to say it is "worth the price"? Under what system of ethics, what rule of law? We know W. as a man of compassion, someone who reaches across the aisle to befriend even sworn enemies. He’s turned the other cheek many times, in the election and since becoming president. He likes to put the past behind him. What then are we to make of his behavior toward Saddam, which seems designed to make a lifetime enemy at a time when relations were moving toward normalization? He wouldn’t lift a finger to punish Clinton’s gang for trashing the White House, but let Iraq try to protect itself from armed American warplanes and Bush starts shooting and bombing people he’s never met. Listening to the pundits, reading discussion boards, scanning opinion columns, you can take your pick of what you think is the REAL reason he gave the go ahead. The number one theory says that Bush is settling old family business, continuing a war begun by his father. In this scenario, both the president and the vice president are simply pursuing a vendetta against Saddam Hussein. But it’s a heck of a way to do it, since every bomb that falls on Iraq only strengthens Saddam’s political standing in Iraq and the entire Arab world. Other explanations are more creative. The Bush administration is in hock to the oil interests who want to keep Iraq crippled in its producing capacity, and thereby keep prices high and give monopoly profits to their friends in Texas. This theory notes that Iraq has dramatically increased its oil production in the last quarter – possibly becoming a competitive threat to American oil interests. Another theory has partisans of Israel within the administration attempting to take the focus off the investigation of the Marc Rich pardon. Or maybe Bush just wanted to bomb someone to show everyone in the world, including our allies, who is boss. There are other stories of splits within the administration, of conspiracies left and right. Whatever the case, the official rationale is not believed, either at home or abroad. The stock market, hurting from very bad inflation reports, tanked the day of the bombing. The question everyone is asking is: do we have another warmonger in the White House? How tragic when Americans can understand the meaning behind a cartoon that appeared this week, showing Bush dropping bombs and saying "now I feel like a real president." Bush has shown himself willing to learn from the mistakes of his father’s administration. He should remember most of all that his dad’s war glory was short lived. He brought him 90 percent approval ratings that lasted only as long as the bombs fell. Later, he lost his reelection bid. The greatest legacy that his son could leave is different, one even greater than cutting taxes: peace. It’s not too late to reverse this very bad first step. Stop the bombs. Pull the troops out. Start friendly trading relations. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. February 19, 2001 Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr., is president of the Ludwig Von Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama

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Date: 2/19/2001 10:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 27849    Is hurting innocent people alright? Is bombing any place on earth alright? I think we all need to come together and live as one. Please check out my stories. go to search then type Super-snaz Thank You very much.
Date: 2/19/2001 10:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 177    Who elected us policeman of the world? Honestly, I've got mixed reactions. Part of me says let's kick serious bu##...especially if innocent countries are attacked. Dubyuh has inherited his dad's problem. I hope he won't base his Iraq policies on inherited family ego problems.  
Date: 2/19/2001 10:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 17525    It's a bogus lie made up by stupid men for the ignorant to believe.  
Date: 2/19/2001 10:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 27398    Crap, Bush shouldn't have bombed, if they wanted to hurt Saddam, they did the opposite, he's more popular now because of the bomb!  
Date: 2/20/2001 1:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 3321    Well, there ya go.....I didn't vote for him, but he is one of this countries greatest mistakes.  
Date: 2/20/2001 4:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 15823    Well I don't enjoy seeing innocent Iraqi women and children suffering the effects of bombing, but Saddam is an evil tyrant who thinks nothing of murdering his own - and other - people and exporting terrorism across the world. And let's not forget that he has used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and murdered thousands of women and kids just because they dared to oppose him. He invaded Kuwait and many Kuwaiti prisoners of war have simply been eliminated (murdered) and if he managed to shoot down a US or British fighter plane he would use the crew as hostages. Of course he's not the only tyrant in the world but he's the one who would dearly love to start a full-scale middle-east war and pretend that he's the saviour of the arab people. British planes took part in the bombing and assist the US daily patroling the Iraqi north and south 'No Fly Zones' and I want the pilots to return safely, so if saddam can't be 'bumped off' by his own opposition then we just have to 'take out' his military rada installations every time he sets them up. WARS...large or small are brutal and sadly it's always the innocent who suffer until right prevails. Soesis.   
Date: 2/20/2001 5:17:00 AM  From Authorid: 19173    I think it's a personal vendetta he has against Saddam. He took the first chance he got to bomb Iraq. Let's face it, it's never good when your allies are against you and are pissed off about something you did. The US and England were suppose to talk it over with NATO first, but they didn't they just took it into their own hands and bombed them. It was against international policy, Dubya is just flexing his military muscle and he better get over it. But 15823 has a point if Iraq was attacking our planes in the no fly zone then we can't just sit back and let them do that because Saddam is a madman, and he can't be trusted, and he can't be let loose because the first thing he will do is try to take over a country and cause serious problems. I'm torn on this issue. LISANY1  
Date: 2/20/2001 9:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 18737    Hiya, Free Girl... Saddam Hussein is a puppet of the United States. ... George Bush is merely doing what he is told by his advisors *capitalists* and their agenda is to keep the Middle East destabilized by whatever means necessary. ... The United States *Britain, Europe, etc.* are the aggressors in the Middle East and Hussein *or anyone else indigenous to that area* is totally justified using whatever means at their disposal to repel foreign aggressors. ... There is NO justification for United States citizens *soldiers* to meddle in the affairs of any other sovereign country. ... In this case, the result will eventually be the bombing of a U.S. shopping center, office building, school, etc. and we will have no one to blame but US *U.S. citizens*. We are paying for and supporting these war crimes committed against a sovereign nation/s. ... *Oh, that's right, THEY are "evil" and WE are "good" ... ROFLMAO*... Good post. May peace and harmony be forever yours. /s/ J.T.
Date: 2/20/2001 10:47:00 AM  From Authorid: 7152    I think bush kind of jump the gun,,I mean he has not be the president for more then 6 months and already he is starting a war! Come on now, is this they way we work????  
Date: 2/20/2001 3:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 16612    I think bombing Irq was the right thing.What we should have done along time ago is bomb Iraq, and all those other bad middle eastern countries and take their oil.-TessekTheQuarren  
Date: 2/20/2001 5:01:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 27678    Thanks for your replies. I, too, am concerned about this bombing in Iraq. We've got no business interfering with the sovereignty of other nations. We should enforce the other United Nations sanctions against other nations, like Israel, for example instead of singling out certain nations we don't like. The people of Iraq have repeatedly said they will not "bow to us" in the many news articles I have read lately, and I think this is how they view us. As kings and dictators that want to tell them how to live and what to do. These sanctions have killed over 500,000 children the past ten years in their country. The Muslim people are a moral people and do what is right from what I have read. I think a lot of this Saddam is a "madman" junk is nothing more than propaganda. As far as the fact that he had killed Kurdish folks in the north, hey, what's the difference? Didn't our country kill the people in Waco for the same reason? Being some kind of threat to the existing regime? I personally voted for Bush, though this action of his, is one I am ashamed of. I only pray that we don't see the men of our country have to go back to war over there and be guina pigs for our "chemical" weapons. Have a good day, ya'll.  
Date: 2/20/2001 5:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 19173    Well, I honestly believe Saddam is a madman, I think the man is one sick puppy. LisaNY1  
Date: 2/20/2001 6:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 177    On the whole, I think we should back off and mind our own borders.  
Date: 2/20/2001 6:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 177    Clinton had his Monica's war. G. dubyuh has his dad's war.  
Date: 2/27/2001 7:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 23604    Okay, let's be jsut like the country that we are supposed to "despise". Trying to do what they are after will jsut help us more. (That was sarcasm.) We missed over half of our targets and we're stooping as low as Hussein. Let's become murders and injure innocent people! Making Hussein mad will get us nowhere. Okay, we want to teach him a lesson. We want to warn him. What if he warned us? We've put sanctions on his innocent people. He deserves punishment but it's not up to us to do it. It's in his own mind. My opinion, anyway. -Ariah  
Date: 3/5/2001 8:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 15823    First off - don't equate Waco with the invasion of Kuwait. Waco may have been mis-handled but Saddam knows exactly what he's doing when he murders THOUSANDS of Iraqi women and children and executes anyone who dares to oppose him. And if you really believe that he is Mr Nice guy and his reputation is merely Anglo-US propagander then try talking to some Iraqi's who've managed to escape from Saddams brutal regime. And while you're about it -- answer this: How many Iraqi's are allowed to chat live on USM? And even if they could they'd never dare openly criticise their government in the way that we can ... and often do. The sooner Saddam goes (one way or another) the better for the Iraqi people and the whole of the middle-east. Soesis.  

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