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Date: 2/20/2001 10:06:00 AM
From Authorid: 3538
I am not sure what to think about the same sex openly kissing in public,etc.I guess as long as it does not offend anyone,then it is okay.I would feel weird and uncomfortable seeing the same sex kissing in public,but,I could always look the other way or walk another way.I guess it is okay.As for the young kids,I am not sure if they should kiss in front of them.I think they should be kind of discreet about it when around young kids.  |
Date: 2/20/2001 10:06:00 AM
From Authorid: 25390
I think it's too far on the line for anyone to be kissing in public....gay or straight. I'm not talking about a peck...that's fine (besides I'm guilty of that)  But when you start getting up in each other's face putting on an over-the-clothes porn show..BLEEEEEEEEEEECH. I don't really have a prob w/ppl holding hands, gay or straight, it's just different. luv =Odd=  |
Date: 2/20/2001 10:07:00 AM
From Authorid: 21912
Well it all depends...gays in a way should have the same rights as us straight people...but i don`t mean the marriage and adopting stuff! But for anyone, i think it`s ok if they hold hands and a small little kiss on the lips. I think frenching is disrespectful!! *SwEeT hOnEy*  |
Date: 2/20/2001 10:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 25856
I am not sure. I mean, sure, it's disgusting to watch gay people together, but I mean, they are just people too. I know that I wouldn't want to walk out of a store and see two men kissing, but that's just me. I honestly don't know what to say.  |
Date: 2/20/2001 10:10:00 AM
From Authorid: 25828
I don't think holding hands or giving a 'peck' kiss is bad...but I agree that intimate kissing - gay or straight - should be done in private..I've never been one to openly display affection - other than holding hands..I don't think that homosexuals should be kept from PDA just because they're gay, though..I think PDA should be kept at a moderate level regardless of orientation....~heather  |
Date: 2/20/2001 10:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 10733
Gay or Straight there should not be a difference, they should be allotted the same consideration. As for myself I don't think that Public displays of affection are appropriate, yes holding hands a hug, even a quick kiss. BUT to maul your significate other in public well that should be saved for the privacy of your own home. just my wittle opinion. ;-)  |
| Date: 2/20/2001 10:37:00 AM From Authorid: 16567 I'm myself gay and seeing a straight couple kissing makes me sick. I don't think straight couples should be displaying their affection in public. How about that?? People should just _try_ to look at the world from different points of view. And I still don't and will probably never understand why this kind of behaviour by gays should "confuse" kids *more* than that by straights. Don't think that all I want to do is having sex with my boyfriend in front of the public. No, I'm just somebody who's dreaming of being able to walk with his boyfriend, hand in hand, in any public place (streets, malls, etc.), without being exposed to disturbing stares. If you were in my shoes, I'm sure you'd be depressed to know that this dream is just too impossible to come true for most of the gay/bi people. Blue Knight, please don't be offended, this comment is not addressed to you personally. I just wish people in general would be more open-minded. -- L.T. |
Date: 2/20/2001 10:38:00 AM
From Authorid: 14754
Iam Not Sure What To Think On This Subject...They Do Have Rights..But I Dont Want To See It...So Where Is The Happy Medium Then? Iam Not Sure...Great Post...Something To Ponder About...Thanks..~Tweeti~  |
Date: 2/20/2001 10:43:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 25438
So what about the children. I mean I don't have a problem with gay couples in the movies or anything but kids shouldn't be seeing that....it will confuse them  |
Date: 2/20/2001 10:44:00 AM
From Authorid: 25183
I agree with L.T., what's wrong with a gay couple walking hand in hand. I agree with the authors that say intimate displays should be saved for private places for both gay and straight couples. People that choose to ignore and discriminate against homosexuality are those perpetuating the hate and ignorance. I have a 2 year old daughter and will choose to educate her on all types of sexuality when the time comes, and she begins asking. DoodleBug  |
Date: 2/20/2001 11:06:00 AM
From Authorid: 19435
In all actuality you single out gays with the title-Then go on to mention anyone...Open Public Display of Intimate Affection is not right for ANY person to be doing. To witness a COUPLE gropping and fondling as if having sex with their clothes on standing up is sickening regardless of the gender of the ones involved. People need to get a grip and put a lid on it until they get home where they can be free to behave sexually in private.  |
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Date: 2/20/2001 11:08:00 AM
From Authorid: 10733
oh and I have to say that my opinion above is not soley for the Gay people it includes the straight people. My sister is a Lesbian and at home her and her girlfriend give each other pecks and hugs and my 5 year old see's this and she knows that they are a couple. I just think that mauling your partner in public weather straight or gay is not kosher. |
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Date: 2/20/2001 11:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
Groping, mauling, sucking face, in public is NOT cool, it is NO CLASS.....for ANYONE no matter what their gender or sexual preference. The Thinker  |
Date: 2/20/2001 11:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 24405
Who cares???? People treat gays and bis like they're some kind of disease. They should be allowed to do whatever they want in public just like straight people do. I for one, am straight. But I think gay people should have the same rights as we do.  |
Date: 2/20/2001 11:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 19220
It doesn't bother me to see a hetrosexual or homosexual couple holding hands, hugging, or even kissing in public. It when the gropping begins....that goes for both couples. IceQueen420  |
Date: 2/20/2001 11:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 27046
I think they should be able to show the affection that they feel no matter where they are. As for it confusing young kids, it is a part of the world and they should know about it. Seeing other gay people do it is not going to make them gay, you are either attracted or your not, its not like one day you wake up and say you are going to start being attracted to the same sex. Whether you believe it or not, you have known about it for a long time and seeing it is not going to change your sexual orientation............Azairyia  |
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Date: 2/20/2001 11:40:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 25438
I agree completely...^^^^^ its just that I know I wouldn't want my children to be asking those questions at the age of 4 and have to explain these things to them when they are first discovering themselves |
Date: 2/20/2001 11:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 277
There's nothing wrong with hand holding or a little peck at the mall or anywhere else in public. To tell you the truth, I can't stand to even see straight couples totally making out in public. But, I know it would be hard to answer my kids if they ever asked me why two guys were kissing like a mommy and daddy!  |
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Date: 2/20/2001 11:58:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 25438
Exactly...and FYI!!! I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MAKING OUT AT ALL...EVERYONE AGREES THAT IS GROSS, what I was asking is about the smaller stuff in public places where kids could see it and also people |
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Date: 2/20/2001 12:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 19220
If my children seen it, o'well. I would eplain it the same why I explain why a man and a woman kiss. IceQueen420 |
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Date: 2/20/2001 12:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 277
Author, Why the hostility in your above comment? I did give my opinion on "smaller stuff in public places where kids could see it and also people". And FYI using all caps is considered yelling. |
Date: 2/20/2001 12:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 13283
Its okay for two women , but not two guys. It startles and shocks alot of people . If it is gonna upset alot of people two guys should show affection discreetly . Dont offend anyone please . Im a big fan of Freddie Mercury btw , Raz aka  |
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Date: 2/20/2001 12:13:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 25438
Sorry HAWK...that was not directed towards you...it wasn't ment to be yelling either...I just wanted people to see it. Everyone is talking about making out and that wasn't my question..I was talking about holding hands and peck kissing and such. Misunderstanding..my bad |
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Date: 2/20/2001 12:14:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 25438
Author 13283...what are you trying to say. That it is ok to be lesbien but not gay??? I mean honestly that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. Why is it o.k. for two women to kiss and hold hands but not to men? |
Date: 2/20/2001 12:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 24963
Well, my opinion on this is that, holding hands and kissing on the lips(quick peck)or cheek to me is ok. I do agree with french kissing in public is disrespectful to everyone else around you, wether you are a gay, or straight couple. I have to admit I'm not too crazy about seeing a gay couple holding hands or kissing, but it's none of my business and they aren't hurting anyone. ~Mirada69  |
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Date: 2/20/2001 12:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 19220
I just don't get it. How is it ok for 2 women and not 2 men? Not tring to be rude or anything, it's just something I don't understand...IceQueen420 |
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Date: 2/20/2001 12:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 13283
I find it very uncomfortable seeing two guys go at it , but it dont bother me to see two girls go at it . I am not anti anything . Im cool with gay people though. I dont bash . You asked an opinion i answered honestly . Raz aka |
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Date: 2/20/2001 12:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 19220
ok..Thanks for being honest....IceQueen420 |
| Date: 2/20/2001 12:22:00 PM From Authorid: 28137 This was a good question, although why you would be made sick by a gay couple kissing when yourself are 'bi' is a bit confusing. Basically, for the betterment of society, gay couples should learn to keep their affections under wraps. I know the politically correct thing would be to say it'a alright for them to hold hands in public, but let's be real...Nobody wants to see that, and children should not be subjected to it. No matter how many times Oprah or Rikki say homosexuality is okay and something to be embraced, it doesn't make it true. Personally, I don't think ANY couples should be making out in public. It's rude and embarrassing. But a straight couple holding hands and pecking is sweet. However, you will notice that as we remove taboos from our society (I live in America, so if you don't this may not apply to you) our problems begin to compound, and the ones it effects the most are the kids. This is very selfish and irresponsible parenting as a community. Remember, it takes a whole village to raise a child. |
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Date: 2/20/2001 12:31:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 25438
You straight boys crack me up...that seems to be a general opinion royaluz. Two chicks is cool but two guys..uck!! Author28137...very valid entry...thats pretty much what I was saying. As far as my sexuality...I just don't like seeing two guys or two girls goin at it in public...I know better and don't do it at all...what I do behind close doors is my business, but there are people who are offended due to religion or just belief that shouldn't happen and they shouldn't be exposed to that. I guess I am just real big on avoiding confrontation if at all possible. Unless the cause is good |
Date: 2/20/2001 2:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 9130
I am not really that fond of seeing anyone make-out in public... I could care less if they are gay, straight, bi, tri, or whatever  |
| Date: 2/20/2001 4:31:00 PM From Authorid: 19691 In a closet, behind closed doors. Mordred |
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Date: 2/20/2001 4:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 27650
I think a small kiss, holding hands, or a hug is fine for anyone. Why should they keep it in the closet? I could see it being offencive if they were cram'in tongues down each others throats. And i dont think it would confuse the kids. Its just another question for the parents to answer. If you dont mind me asking, how would you like to keep your life in a closet? |
Date: 2/20/2001 4:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 20873
I am glad I have not seen it often or I would go into the ladies room and toss it up! Sorry but this world is meant for WOMEN AND MAN and NOT any other way. I am entitled to my opinion and thats that.DINA  |
Date: 2/20/2001 6:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 21839
I agree with majority...a hug, a peck or a kiss on the cheek is ok but anything more than that needs to be dealt with behind closed doors... I'm guessing here but I think maybe 2 women in public would be more acceptable due to fact you can rent movies or watch adult tv with women together but how many do you see with men together???? Like I said this is a guess ....Sugar Bear  |
Date: 2/20/2001 6:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 11097
Hey there, in public i think anyone is entitled to what they wish to do as long as if is appropriate. I have a bf and i probably wouldnt think twice about kissing him in public, so why should gays. I think this is teribble how we discrimminate against each other like this. Love-  |
Date: 2/20/2001 7:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 11091
I think everyone has the same rights and their relationship should be respected. To people in love is beautiful regardless of sexual orientation. My children all know that people love who they love regardless of gender and my daughter thinks it is just as gross for a straight couple to make-out as a homosexual couple. There is nothing wrong with them holding hands, hugging, and kissing. America is one of the few socities were love and sexuality is a closed and hidden subject. The rest of society is quite open with their love for one another. I would much rather my children see these forms of affection than not. If children do not learn by example how to show love, they will not know how to show love to their life partner or children. Without affection a relationship doesn't thrive.  |
Date: 2/20/2001 9:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 22361
No, nobody should have to hide who they really are simply because other people don't agree with it. Should a straight couple not show public affection because a gay couple doesn't like it? Of course not. As for the children, the latest study shows that the gay community in the U.S. is at 10% and growing. You can't hide that many people from your kids forever. Try educating the kids instead of keeping them in the dark, and you might find that kids are alot more accepting of things than you think. For the record, no, I'm not gay, but live and let live. -Mighty Mouse-  |
| Date: 2/20/2001 11:42:00 PM From Authorid: 28137 Why is the gay community growing in this country you ask? BECAUSE KIDS ARE EXPOSED TO IT! It's becoming acceptable behavior and not being recognized for what it is, which is a very dangerous symptom of much larger problems. As our children grow in a more volatile society, without parents at home and good structure, their reactions and the effects, whether conscious or not, will become more drastic. You gave the statistics yourself, and it's a shame that we've let it get so far out of hand that it cannot be reversed. It only gets worse from here. |
| Date: 2/21/2001 6:05:00 AM From Authorid: 17852 Well guys shouldnt kiss in public man or woman they should even hold hands the gays should stay in the closet. Who cares if straight kiss in public cause straight is normal so I dont mind if I see straight kissing but If I see a gay I will say something and all these post about they should have the same rights thats bull crap cause they r not normal so Y should they have the same rights and yes it does affect kids to see gays kissing and holding hands. We need as few gays as possible |
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Date: 2/21/2001 6:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 19220
Who determines what is normal and what isn't? Some people think that if you eat pancakes at night thats not normal or if you dye your hair purple with green dots then your not normal. If the only reason you see something wrong if it is because of what the bible says then tell me what happened with the other sins? 17852....you and I both know who each of us feels on this issue. I will not hide my child away just becasue this world isn't what some people think it should be. That isn't going to help anything! IceQueen420 |
| Date: 2/21/2001 6:44:00 AM From Authorid: 17852 well IceQueen Soceity is to decide what is normal and well GAYS r not normal. I dont see how someone could let their child be exposed to this behavior and feel its ok. Dont u think their is a reason Y Gays cant Adopt kids? |
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Date: 2/21/2001 6:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 19220
What are you going to do..look your kids in a room with nothing but white walls? You can't hide them forever. Wouldn't you want to be the one to explain homosexuality to them? And since you are against it, they might not know what it is and understand it completely and try it. Yes experiment. Then what are you going to do? You are right. Society does decide what is normal and what is not. Well homosexuals are part of society. They don't do anything that 2 people of the oppisite sex do, they just happen to be happy with someone of the same sex. If a child does see this, that doesn't mean they are going to become gay or anything else. IceQueen420 |
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Date: 2/21/2001 6:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 19220
oops..thats suppose to say "LOCK" noy "look" sorry IQ420 |
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Date: 2/21/2001 6:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 19220
Man if I could spell it would be scary.....thats NOT...not noy...ugggggggggg |
| Date: 2/21/2001 7:26:00 AM From Authorid: 16567 17852, you think kids turn out to be gay because they see gays around? You don't seem to know anything about the concept itself. That "fact" you so kindly reminded us of about God creating Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve shows this. And to others who think gays should keep it all in the closet not to affect kids badly, you think the same kind of behavior by straights won't affect these kids? Try to look at things from this point of view (and I'm not yelling, "ACCEPT THE TRUTH!!" like some others): you're prejudiced against homosexuality just because it was "taught" to you like that and for no other reason and you don't really know anything about it, and anything gays do is wrong just because you don't understand it and/or it doesn't conform with the "standards." -- L.T. |
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Date: 2/21/2001 2:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 20873
THANK YOU!! 28137 thank you for putting that out. thank you !! 17852 you are so very right!! DINA |
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Date: 2/21/2001 2:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 19220
I feel just fine about it. I don't take my child around and look for gay couples and say "now watch them" but if we are out and one of them sees two people of the same sex hug or holding hands, I will not cover there eyes and say "Don't look at that. It's gross and gay people are sinners and are bad people." Thats how hate starts. I want my children to be accepting and not hate others for what they believe and/or who they love. I have a few bisexual friends. Two of which are parents and good ones at that. IceQueen420 |
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Date: 2/21/2001 3:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 11091
IceQueen very well said. 17852, we have had this discussion before and this is not the place to have it again. Society judges what the norms are, not you. Society has decided that homosexuality is OK. Maybe if you took a few sociology classes you would learn that the world is not what you want or what you perceive or think it is. Homosexuality is about love, I will love who I love and you have the right to love who you love. |
| Date: 2/23/2001 6:25:00 AM No they shouldnt. Thats the same as discriminating (spelling?) on the basis of sexual preference. If they want to, go for it. And if someone doesnt like it, dont look. Plain and simple. And, 17852, society does NOT decide what is normal, you yourself do. The ones trying to force gays or bi's to show affection in public are the biggest bigots in the entire world. There is a line, gay or straight, for public affection and it should end at kissing or a slap on the butt for any sexual orientation. -Dark Angel, not logged on- |
| Date: 2/23/2001 6:26:00 AM YIPE! I meant show affection in private. Sorry, brain isnt working -Dark Angel- |
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Date: 2/23/2001 8:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 20873
dark angel, we are society. And no I DO not hide my child from everything but my God there is no need for them to express themselves in anyway.If this world was meant for both ways then God woud have made us different! I mean physically different .lol, DINA |
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Date: 2/23/2001 8:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 20873
opps, i mean for them to show their affection in private also...now I know I started it up! not meaning to I am just saying how I feel. DINA |
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Date: 2/24/2001 7:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 19220
17852....gays are not the same as murders, rapist, etc...You say you would confront a gay couple that were holding hands if you were in public with you child. What if I said, if I saw you and your wife holding hands I would ask you what you thought you were doing? Gay couples do nothing that married or hetersexual couples do. Now since you think gays and murders are in the same catergory, I'm with LT on this one and will debate this no more. IceQueen420 |
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Date: 2/24/2001 7:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 11091
17852, You live in Tampa, thats kida ironic. I lived in Tampa a good portion of my life and have spent the rest in Florida. Have you ever been to YBOR city or Guavaween? Have you ever been to a night club, the colleges, the malls, the shopping store, the movies, outside? Have you ever been out in public, in society. Somehow you have lead a very sheltered life in one of the largest gay pride cities in the world. Tampa is known for its alternative scene and gay pride clubs and orginizations. I used to live there and was active in the public for gay rights. Also the military can't ask you if you are gay, it is against military law and procedure. One of his fellow recruits may have asked because they expected him to be. There are always exceptions to the rule, but the exceptions are not the way of the world. Open your eyes and maybe read a little factual information and you will see that as a whole gays are accepted into the world and it is the few who voice their opinions loudly who get noticed. And you can donate blood if you are gay, it is not like if you take a blood transfusion from someone who is gay, you become gay. The blood banks here don't care of your sexuality because they test your blood for the same diseases whether you are gay, straight, bisexual, or transgendered. And for your comment of what you would say to a gay couple, I hope you enjoy jail. That is considered a hate crime. I also feel sorry for your children. If they are not straight they will always hide their life from you and you will NEVER know who your children are. It is not about what feels good, it is about love. You can't love a homosexual or bisexual, then you may end uo hating your children. What a good follower of your religion you are. |
| Date: 2/24/2001 11:09:00 AM From Authorid: 17852 well birdfeeder I meant to say if u cant donate blood if u was gay before a certain time period.and I dont know were u lived I live right down the street from USF and go to school downtown and not once seen a gay couple o and BTW I am always outside at malls and lots of other places if it was so accepted and open in Tampa Y have I never seen it. And yes they did ask my cousin was he gay. O I been to Ybor one time its to dirty for me. And I would rather my kid to hide his gay feelings and live a straight life then to be gay and live a gay one. And how is asking a GAY what they doin holding hands kissing etc in public a hate crime. And If u were to open ur eyes a little u would see more r against gays then for it. Let me give some examples Eminem is against it. Allen Iverson is against it. Johnny Vershate(misspelled)was killed while checkin the male. Their r tons of websites against it. God is against it. The list goes on and on. |
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Date: 2/28/2001 7:21:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 25438
Well...pretty interesting points guys. Now that I have your alls point of view..here is mine. No, being gay is not normal. No it never will be. But it is a fact of life and people are just gonna have to get used to it. Thats the bottom line. People have gotten used to mixed couples, to people with 20 year age differences getting married and neither one of those is "normal" either. People will accept it, just not now. As far as being "wrong" everyone is entitled to there own opinion. I believe that if anyone wanted to argue the biblical part of that with me they would more than likely loose. I will follow anyone around for a week in there life and they can do the same with me and we will see who stands a better chance at getting into heaven!!! |
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Date: 2/28/2001 9:25:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 25438
I would never tell someone that they couldn't get into heaven or that they were going to hell for there actions. Sorry if I came across that way. What I ment was that homosexuality is one sin of about 2 million. People who condemn gays and then turn around and cheat on there wife/husband, have pre-marital sex, use the Lords name in vein, cuss, disrespect there parents...the list goes on so as "wrong" as it is in the bible what I am saying is that there are alot of gays that live more religious lives than straight people...Its not the only sin...or the worse for that matter |
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Date: 8/16/2001 10:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 39164
i dont think that the3y should be restricted from affection i lso dont agree with the making out but its life you gotta deal with it so just ignore them or something as as gfar s the thing about ALSO******My question is not about making out in public..its about any form of affection...should gays "keep it in the closet" to protect children or people who believe its wrong from having issues or contraversy!!!! NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO DISLIKE YOU OR THINK THER IS SOMETHING WRONG. I KNOW SOME PEWOPLE WHO BELIVE THAT IOF YOU ARE CHRISTIAN YOU ARE EVIL ITS SAD BUT TRUE SO MAYBE INSTEAD OF HIDING OUR DIFFERENCES WE SHOULD EMBRACE THEM AND EDUCATET OSE IGNRANT PEOPLE. AND I DONT MEANT HAT IN A BAD WAY WE ARE ALL IGNORANT ALL ABOUT STUFF |
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