Date: 2/24/2001 7:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 18103
I have struggled with this for a long time. I am going through a Divorce now & have always been against them. It is difficult.GRAYWOLF65  |
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Date: 2/24/2001 7:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 21357
no i don't think it is wrong. maybe god does, maybe he doesn't |
Date: 2/24/2001 7:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 13079
Hiya Dizzy *hugs* I will copy and paste *from another post* my stance on divorce: Well.....Im not big on divorce...In my opinion, divorce is usually a "permenant solution" to a "temporary problem"....the bible has conflicting verses on this subject.....good luck figuring it out! *hugs*  |
Date: 2/24/2001 8:00:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
I'm sorry Pixie-- i didn't mean to post something you have posted before-- but this is a little different than your post so i will leave it up :)  |
Date: 2/24/2001 8:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 16845
I think that divorce should only be considered for extreme reasons i.e. abuse....But if there are children involved I believe that the parents should do everything in their power to stay together. Here In Colorado their trying to pass a law making parents go through a year of counsoling before their divorce is granted.  |
Date: 2/24/2001 8:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 15033
I believe in the foundation of the wolf society. It is more on a spiritual level. Listen to my ideas before you are tempted to wave them on, K? The Wolf was considered to be the perfection in portraying the ideal structure of human relationships. There have been many ancient relics left behind, such as stone carvings, which depict a wolf walking beside a Holy Man. This had a message. The alpha wolf male and female (the leaders of the pack) are drawn together as though they were born for each other. They mate for life. The rest of the pack has a place in the pack for the good of the whole, each and everyone of them. Very, very, few have what it takes to be an alpha. They understand that and take their rightful place accordingly. If there are other alphas' that are born to the pack, and the parents (present alphas) are not dead, they leave the pack to find their mate (in another pack) and form their own. I believe marriage amongst men and women is seen the same in God's eyes. Not everyone is predestined to be married. No man made ceremony is going to make it real! Just like in the wolf society, each and every member is sacred and important, its just that none give direction except the alphas, because they have an express communication with the power that links them all to the universe, to the Creator of that universe. I have studied the wolf society all of my life, mainly because when I was attuned more to my native up bringing, many referred to my spirit as an eagle and a wolf. I have a great respect for the wolf. They show us what we were meant to be like, and if we followed their ways we would likely have no divorce...just my feelings on it...Love,  |
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Date: 2/24/2001 8:09:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Thunderhead I find that very interesting...I never really knew that about wolves... it is a different way of looking at things |
Date: 2/24/2001 8:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 16128
Yes, I think marriage is to easy to do now days, look at all these young kids getting married, and marriage is no bed of roses LOL!! I think they should have some kind of counseling before marriage. I don't know if divorce is a sin to god, so I can't answer you there, but I know the divorce rate here in Ok. is very high, and I think when some (not all but some) people feel the heat, they just look to divorce, it is an easy way out, but there are times when divorce is the only solution, as in if there is abuse to the spouse, or children, and if one commits adultry, I know if my husband cheated on me, there would be no other solution than divorce b/c I could never trust him again, and what kind of a marriage would that be if there is no trust. I do think that if they just aren't getting along, they should seek counseling, I left my husband, part b/c we couldn't get alon, we were fighting all the time, and part of the problem was alcohol, but instead of a divorce, we lived in seperate homes, and went to counseling, and I am so happy we did. So I don't think I have answered you ?, but my opinion is I agree with you on marriage, and divorce being to easy these days. As for multiple wives, I don't know, I don't think it is right, I know I wouldn't want my husband being married to more than one woman. I can't help you there, sorry ((HUGZ))  |
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Date: 2/24/2001 8:32:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Sap-- I am glad to see that you worked things out through counseling-- it just proves that if people take the time and try to make things work that things CAN work! |
Date: 2/24/2001 8:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 8428
hmm yes divorce is considered a horrible sin.i havent seen any bible texts about them having multiple marriages but i know some middleastern relgion allow it.also divorces should never be illegal if the marriage just isnt working out then u dont have to be forced to stay.its like a job u sign up for it to work for it and everything but if u dont like the job then u can quit it.so i think divorces are neccessary if the problem is serious enuff.  |
Date: 2/24/2001 9:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 25046
Check out Matthew 19:3-12. Also 1 Corinthians 7. I believe that it should be more difficult to marry. It seems to be a fade sometimes.  |
Date: 2/24/2001 9:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 20497
I do believe that people are getting married for the wrong reasons....some people....and that there is always a way to work through the problems that come up in a marriage......and I also believe that divorce is an easy way out...problems can be worked out with counseling....it really works if both want to save the marriage...JMO...bwearsie  |
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Date: 2/24/2001 9:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 28568
Why would it be a sin if you get a divorce if the other person is cheating on you? Or beating you? I think that God would understand. |
Date: 2/24/2001 10:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 27706
I think you need to understand that people change. Not always for the better. It is great if two people can grow together, but people do grow apart. There are a lot of factors that people part. I think God would understand in most cases, but there are too many divorces that occur for silly reasons. I think the biggest sin that leads to divorce is adultery. I can not stand it when people do this. It is very discusting to me. But I think you will be forgiven if you live your life to its fullest. -J.D.  |
Date: 2/24/2001 10:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 17525
Dizzy, do you believe in ths separation of Church and State? I ask this seriously because you question whether to enact laws based on religious doctrine. Personally i find that a threat to my freedom. JMO  |
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Date: 2/25/2001 12:25:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Osiris-- there were two seperate parts to the questions here-- one pertaining to religion-- the other not. |
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Date: 2/25/2001 12:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 28087
Divorce is not a sin when it is because of adultery, if you life was in danger or your spouse abused you, I do not think God would want you to stay in that situation. In the latter case, I think the best solution would be to ask God to guide you in the situation. I think people could try harder in some cases, and I really don't think marriage counseling is for everyone. I think for some people it's just an easy way out. At some point in the Old Testament, God gave the commandment that we should only have one spouse. |
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Date: 2/25/2001 1:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 15033
Oh come on Osiris, you don't have to open posts that threaten you for criminy sakes!...lol!! Especially where they have no effect on your life...geez...Love, |
Date: 2/25/2001 4:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 5484
in the old testament they had alot of wives,i guess thats why they wrote a new one.getting a divorce sint bad if your partner is cheating on you,beats you etc.only God knows why.my sister was married for 14 years and her husband beat her the last 8 she finally got a divorced and moved on or he would have killed her.  |
Date: 2/25/2001 6:39:00 AM
From Authorid: 20699
I believe it should be more difficult to get married. Undergoing marriage counseling would be an excellent start (before marriage). Maybe it can make you see something you didn't notice before. As far as "til death due us part" and it being a sin, I don't see how God would want anyone to stay in a marriage with someone that is abusive who can definately make "til death due us part" a reality if you know what I mean. JFD  |
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Date: 2/25/2001 6:39:00 AM
From Authorid: 20699
I meant do not due. JFD |
Date: 2/25/2001 10:33:00 AM
Actually the bible says you can only get a divorce if your spouse commits sexual immorality. take it any way you want. God hates divorce, so i don't know if it's a sin. But the lord does want you to be happy. So just pray about it. You know prayer does work if you believe in it.
Angel.
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Date: 2/25/2001 10:35:00 AM
Also the only ones who had multiple partners were in the old testament. that does not apply today. Marriage is actually a picture of jesus and the church. Jesus has one church, and the church has one jesus. So that thing about wives submitting to the husband is just like the church submitting to jesus, and husbands love your wives as in jesus loves his church. Note i said church and not churches.
Angel.
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Date: 2/25/2001 9:08:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Angel-- that is an interesting way to look at things... |
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Date: 2/25/2001 9:10:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
JFD You are right about the abuse thing... I cannot see why God would want people to stay in a marriage if there was abuse (or adultery) going on... |
Date: 2/26/2001 9:58:00 AM
From Authorid: 19016
Here we go. Yes divorce is a sin in the eyes of God.Anyone who puts away his wife for any reason other than adultery, causes her to commite adultery by remarrying.Jesus said that Moses gave a writ of divorce because of the hardening of their hearts,But from the beginning this was not the way.About more than one spouse . Every man should have his own wife, and every woman her husband so that they do not sin. Angel 1  |
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Date: 2/26/2001 2:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 20699
To the author angel, explain to me how God hates. I don't understand that. How can God who is all loving hate? JFD |
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Date: 2/26/2001 5:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 19691
yeah well too bad. "nowadays" is now. we live now. we do what is to be done today. So don't even try to bring the past back. time goes and you cann't live in the past. Living in the past means denial. Freedom is the way of today. Marriage is not as important as getting laid. Getting laid is the top priority. Mordred |
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Date: 2/26/2001 5:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 19691
And not all people are christian. Muslims have several wifes. Non religious people live their lives too. You can't make divorce illegal, that would be worse that communism. Mordred |
Date: 2/27/2001 7:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 27678
Muslims may have four wives. They must be able to take care of them financially. The Koran says that usually widows with small children to care for are to be wives no. 2,3,and 4. Many men in the Old Testament had many wives. Again, they were usually women who had lost their husbands through wars in which the Israelites had fought with them. They had an obligation to care for them. Like POW's. King Soloman had 300 wives and 700 concubines. Whew! I bet he was busy. LOL. Divorce is too easy to get these days. Marriage is a job. It requires hard work and lots of self sacrifice to work through the years. My husband gave me a Bill of Divoicement once. Yes, devoicement. Seems if I kept quiet, we'd stay married. Unfortunately for him, I just couldn't do that. LOL LOL LOL. We've been married over eleven years and he's used to my "voice" now. Isn't it funny that the things we find enduring in our spouses in the beginning, drive us nuts later on?  |
Date: 2/28/2001 5:06:00 AM
From Authorid: 9605
I truly believe that God wants us to be happy and if he can forgive us for the wrongs that we may have done throughout our lives, what makes choosing the wrong partner any different. He knows that we are not perfect and since Love is so broad, sometimes we make mistakes on what we consider true love to be. So I really think that He will understand...good post:)  |
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Date: 2/28/2001 10:27:00 AM
From Authorid: 28866
It is not sin if the two people realize they are not for each other, and that they might love someone else. What is sin to God is when one of the two people goes behind his partners back, or when the marriage effecting badly children or others. He does not like divorces because of the children and the hurt it brings to one partner, if he/she is betrayed. |
Date: 2/28/2001 1:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 28767
how can god hate. If you married someone and realized you don't love them, why would you want to stay with em'. or another example a wife married her husband than later on he beats her. She has a right for a divorce.  |
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Date: 3/1/2001 2:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 18562
no devorse is not a sin ...Jesus never said that he did say that you were commiting a sin if you were to have relations with another women after you are devorsed becouse you get one shot at marrige if it dont work...you are out of the mateing game...peace PatrickO |
Date: 3/15/2001 5:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 17673
there are some cases divorce is nessecery, like husbands who hit their wife and kids. If u are unhappy why shoould you stay in a mrriage and make it worse
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Date: 2/18/2002 10:40:00 AM
From Authorid: 6817
I think he considers it a sin because it even talks about it in the Bible.  |
