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I love TROUBLE-- Is that really so bad? *smile* *DizzyME*

  Author:  9130  Category:(Debate) Created:(2/25/2001 10:58:00 PM)
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Hello all. I really do not like trouble-- I was just using that title to get your attention. I admit that I do love a good argument though. If someone agrees with me on a topic, that's great! If they disagree, that's even better! I am posting this to say that I think everyone should be more like that. If someone disagrees with you or is rude, don't get mad or suicidal-- get glad! Don't take it to heart! We are but words on a screen! What people say to you here shouldn't get to you... think about it. Who are we to you? We are nothing to you.

I read a post earlier about a girl who tried to commit suicide after reading a rude comment on here... I think that is ridiculous! How can someone on the internet get to a person like that? I know suicidal tendacies is a serious concern but people should realize that when they post something on the internet it is for the whole world to see. There will be times when people disagree but you can't let that take you down. I just think people should learn to get over things like that (rude comments). Why does it have to be such a big deal? And why is it people seem to consider a difference of opinion as being rude?

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Date: 2/25/2001 11:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 277    This is the comment I left on the post about the person who attempted suicide after reading a bad comment: "I really can't imagine what type of comment would make someone want to go kill themselves. I'm quite sure that this individual has/had other problems/issues going on in their life prior to reading their comments. You already said she had some serious mental issues which proves my point. I just don't think you can totally blame people on USM for your friends suicide attempt." I don't really believe that the story was true. Oh they said my story was bad....where's my razor? Give me a break! If someone gets a comment they don't like or just can't deal with, delete the darn thing and move on! But, you won't ever see me deleting any comments on my stories. I welcome all replies. If someone wants to disagree with me they can, but you can bet I'll have a response for them. I wish more people would grow a thicker skin. I'm also quite sure that everyone on this site may have similiar definitions of rude, but some do take comments that show a difference of opinion as rude.  
Date: 2/25/2001 11:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 7952    Okies..i am going to disagree with you (to make it even better of course!! hehehee) i agree with you on some of what you say...."What people say to you here shouldn't get to you... think about it." i agree with you 100% there. But when you say "We are but words on a screen!" & "Who are we to you? We are nothing to you." you are wrong there. Alot of people consider USM to be more of a home than their actual house. I do find it too hard for people to ignore the rude and obnoxious comments they recieve on their postings as easily as alot of people believe. If someone said "god you are stupid! get a life...learn to spell, you know nothing! you are immature!" i think that the person reading it may laugh...and infact delete it in some cases...but when it comes down to it they remember what that comment said. And no matter how many times they are told to ignore it, they cant. I am sure that you Dizzy would be able to recal rude comments left to you on your postings if i asked you. And even though you may dismiss it, not everyone is the same. They will take it to heart no matter how hard to try. =) No one is 'nothing' to 'no one' here i dont think..we may be screenames but there are feeelings too...just that there are more people out there who take things to heart more than others thats all...but i also do agree with you...no one needs to get suicidal over it...thats just silly =) Love~  
Date: 2/25/2001 11:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    Hi Dizzy..Some people with serious mental problems cannot use normal logic in their thinking process..Some do actually blame and feel that it is the fault of others for things they do that is not considered to be "of the norm"..This is just a small example why I was so opposed to the suicide section..Many do not understand the mental and emotional ill..Many are not qualified to deal with such serious matters.We as "average" people can reason within ourselves and we know how to cope and to deal with those who are being rude..But..Those who are having some serious mental problem many times looses hold of their abilities to reason..The girl with the problem on another post should seek professional counseling. Now..regarding trouble..:)I don't like debating issues..I love to discuss differences of opinions though..It seems easier that way to settle a disagreement when we "agree to disagree" when we come to a stalemate. :) Sincerely Rusure  
Date: 2/26/2001 12:45:00 AM  From Authorid: 3321    Well, because sometimes people state their difference of opinions rudely and insultingly. Simply using the excuse that we are "words on a screen" is no excuse to throw out the manners and become insolent.  
Date: 2/26/2001 12:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 15621    I dont know about the post your talking about,but I did read something about it.As far as people here being nothing to us....I disagree.....Some people here are more than just people on a computer screen...there friends.....and words can and do hurt peopls feeling  
Date: 2/26/2001 4:57:00 AM  From Authorid: 3642    I do Truly Believe That by Your words You do effect people --either in hurt feelings Or Joy--not every person Thinks The same way -----that dosent make one person right and another wrong ----sometimes It just makes them diffrent -something That would not effect You may indeed effect another ----if a person feels The need To harm another In such away They need to ask Them selfs why ----there is a insecurity In Them selfs when hurting another on purpose in that way makes Them feel good :(  
Date: 2/26/2001 6:00:00 AM  From Authorid: 21266    I iz soooooo with u one this one!! Go read my l8st post "2 ALL U USMERS OUT THERE" :P.
Some ppl take things a lil 2 seriously..they take my jokes personal as well!! thatz more than just ridiculous!
Just for the record, I LOVE TROUBLE! :P
-AHD
  
Date: 2/26/2001 6:31:00 AM  From Authorid: 3648    First off I do agree with some of what you said here....but you know we all have different ways of thinking and there is nothing wrong with that at all, we are only human. But some ppl do let rude comments get to them, even deleting with a smile may not help that much. As far as it just being words on a screen yes to a point it is, but friendships are made over a screen so it becomes much more then only a screen. We all can't agree all the time it's not humanly possible and it's fun to see different opinions, ideas, etc. But I also believe we need to think before we comment, ask ourselves would we want to see that on one of our own stories?? Because some do take the comments to heart and it can hurt feelings....I realize everything isn't going to be sunny but why make it worse? A nice comment and a smile can do wonders for the soul...and lift your spirit. :)  
Date: 2/26/2001 6:56:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    I know many of you think that my comments are rude, but I never intend to "hurt" people. I will usually only zing back at someone with a comment if they really annoy me *smile*  
Date: 2/26/2001 9:30:00 AM  From Authorid: 19016    I,m with you on this one.I don,t think people should take these comments so seriously.They should be taken with a grain of salt.We are a family of very different personalities.That is what makes us unique. Sometimes toes get stepped on. And I do not believe it is enough to push someone over the edge. Just my opinion. angel 1  
Date: 2/26/2001 9:39:00 AM  From Authorid: 15777    I agree to disagree...LOL!! No really, a good debate is always indeed a fun task! I don't take anything personal and I don't get angry nor do I take it personal when someone disagrees with me!! I don't hate someone for it....  
Date: 2/26/2001 10:37:00 AM  From Authorid: 20497    I guess it boils down to how *you* view people on the other side of the screen....if you don't care....then it is easy to be rude or *sound* rude...if you are a caring person...then one would be a little more careful in how the words are written. I do agree that it is a little far when a person tries to hurt themselves over a few words....but *words do hurt*, so as members here we do need to attempt to watch how we say things. I do not view anyone here as just nobodies on the other side.....I view them as my friends til they give me a reason not too....and since I treat my friends with respect....well there ya go....:)  
Date: 2/26/2001 11:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 16671    I dont know about all of you, but its not just something on a screen. I have found such good friends on here and we share each others joy, and sadness, our very lives we talk about. Not only in usm but in emails and telephone calls, instant messages. Some here are so very near and close to me, they are a extended part of my family. We share pictures, and things that happen with our children and grandchildren, our work. Word are a powerfull force and not everone is mentally balanced and so many have been hurt so bad that it doesnt take much to send them over the edge. When someone is crying out for help, its up to us to help that person and be loving and kind toward them and try and help them through the problems they have. Some may only find love that they need here. We dont always know what goes on in their outside lives, but we must care for people and becarefull of what we say. We should try to encourage people in any way that we can. Sure, some of the regualars here we have got to know pretty well and can tease and joke with them in perphaps a not so polite manner, but those people know we are joking. Take me and j.t. for instance, people would think we hate each other, but we dont. I hate no man, for hate causes bitterness in our own bodies and this is not good. People, I ask you all to encourage all that you can to anyone that you can. You dont know when you might be saving a life.  
Date: 2/26/2001 12:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    ~Karma Killer runs up and hugs Firstborn~ This is not a word that normally comes out of my mouth..but Amen to you sister. Love,  
Date: 2/26/2001 12:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 23610    I stand with Karma Killer and say Amen also to Firstborn. Words are powerful tools and they can show one's intelligence or one's ignorance...one's kindness...or one's cruelty. In a medium such as this words are almost all you have to offer in order for another to form an impression of you. -Lady Nyx  
Date: 2/26/2001 1:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    You are so right Lady Nyx (good to see you BTW). I think the internet is a very powerful forum and can be a wonderful way to get to know the "real" anyone. I mean that there are no distractions here (looks, money, clothes, race, etc), so one must be 100% themselves all the time. All one has to offer is oneself. I would hope we all try to offer our best self.  
Date: 2/26/2001 1:16:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    LOL @ Karma Killer-- you really think that all of the people on here are being themselves? i don't agree. i think that this is a place where many people try to be what they cannot be in "real life"  
Date: 2/26/2001 1:17:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    ^^^ "this" meaning the internet, not specifically Unsolved Mysteries.  
Date: 2/26/2001 1:43:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    Hawk-- I think you said it perfectly! I totally agree with you!  
Date: 2/26/2001 1:50:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    Dolphin Witch--I know many people consider this a home and i realize that this is a place where people come to escape from reality. i just don't think we should shield them from honesty...  
Date: 2/26/2001 1:52:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    Prsephone-- there are many different opinions on what is "rude and insulting" one person may find a comment by you very insulting, as another may not... i just think we should just deal with it or delete it..  
Date: 2/26/2001 1:53:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    AHD-- I looked for your post and couldn't find it, i guess it got deleted! LOL  
Date: 2/26/2001 1:54:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    Boofer-- that is the way everyone should be... they shouldn't take everything to heart  
Date: 2/26/2001 1:57:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9130    To those of you who say we are NOT just words on a screen. i do disagree. I think that yes, e can make friends on here, and they can mean a lot... and that is wonderful! but everyone else, the rude people, the people you just don't like for whatever reason, should be nothing to you. I don't mean we shouldn't care about people... just don't let them get to you... that is what I mean by "we are but words on a screen"  
Date: 2/26/2001 2:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    I cannot speak for others. I can only say that what is represented is really as I am...Is it all that I am. No. I have a life outside of USM a full one that doesn't require an online persona to bolster it.  
Date: 2/26/2001 2:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 16442    I have to agree with you Dizzy Me on your opinion that some people do not portary their actual self via the internet and instead choose to play a part. But I also think that we can try our darndest to state our opinions with tact and without hurting anothers feelings although I think we all fail at this at times. Sometimes its hard to do this by writing and I think many times what we are trying to get across is not how the person whom it is directed at takes it. ~MOONPRIESTESS~  
Date: 2/26/2001 2:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 23610    Nope...I think people's true colors come on when they feel they are anonymous. Some people are the same in the cyberworld because they don't need to hide themselves from anyone. Others who may be repressing their true feelings in real life because of fear or insecurity come out more real here than they would around people who actually know them. Even if one is creating a false persona on the internet I believe that that is the real person's feelings coming out...so again I believe that the words one chooses to use does represent them and does give an impression to others of what that person is really like inside. Anonymity to this extent allows for opening up that side of you that you may not want others to see that have dealings with you on a daily basis in real life. But I do agree Dizzyme that people should not consider a difference of opinion as being rude. I'm all for hearing each other's point of view. I guess it just depends on how it is said. There are those here who are deliberate in their rudness (repressed anger in the real world) and then there are those who merely are trying to be honest about their own opinions. I think most of us have enough common sense to know the difference...but there are some who are more suceptible to hurt than others. It's just a fact of life I guess. -Lady Nyx  
Date: 2/26/2001 4:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 14464    I don't see what is so wrong with criticism anyways. I mean people need it so they know what they need to do to make thier work better.  
Date: 2/26/2001 7:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 8428    i AGREE with you that people shoudlnt really take these posting to seriously(specially like the suicidal one tell me where i can find that)but for what i read of ur material u are a tad to harsh and u need to tone it down but not to much where u wont be no fun to argue back too  
Date: 2/26/2001 9:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    Ah, Karma, hugs to you to. And amen sister. That is so sweet. Ladynxy, i agree with you also and amen to you. I'm like karma, I have a life outside of usm. Matter of fact just ask some that call me on the phone, its crazy at my house, always something going on. I'm who I'm on here or at home. I dont come here to escape reality, I come here to find reality. lol God knows i dont have of that at home. lol. Havent you got close to anyone dizzy? dont you trust anyone? I'm not trying to find fault with you, just saying that I disagree. Peace.  
Date: 2/27/2001 9:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 3321    I've said my opinion on it, and I know a lot of people agree with me, as well as disagree.  
Date: 2/28/2001 8:58:00 PM  From Authorid: 12709    Oh my gosh... DizzyMe, I'm so sorry hun! I think I totally took your response to my story the wrong way! I'm going to delete all the comments except for your first one! I feel terrible for thinking you were trying to start something. I'm SO sorry!! And I totally agree with you! =)  
Date: 2/28/2001 9:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 12709    I feel so bad! Sometimes it's hard to tell if someone is sarcastic or serious over the computer. When I read this I realized I was completely wrong about your reply.  

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