Date: 2/28/2001 7:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 15033
Okay, Bigpoppa, lets just hope you haven't been getting abducted for years and the memory of it has been overed up each time. Lets hope it never happens to many of the average people that do not have the courage it takes to face them, live with the memory, and take the judgemental comments of others. I had to live with the memories and it was a nightmare. I never did go to anyone for regression...I managed to be in a situation where there were others who were being abducted at the same time I was, and our stories always jibed, perfectly. I see how you could be easily lead to believe many people are somehow making it up, sometimes it can be ones that are going to Phychs about it. I could put so much more down to make you think but it would be easier to just encourage you to research the subject a little more before you make a judgement....You are welcome to read my web site, I have real stories of my own about a 10 year experience. I am just glad to be here, good therapy...Thank you for your time. Love,  |
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Date: 2/28/2001 8:34:00 PM
I am also very sceptical of hypnosis. Hypnosis aside, there are still the hundreds of people (maybe thousands) that have total recall of their abduction without the need of hypnosis. Not all people that have been abducted have only suppressed memories. These abduction memories are as much in their conscious mind as any other real memory. If one were to try to build a case verifying abductions and threw out all abduction stories revealed by hypnosis, it would not even make a dent in the total of the evidence. Please keep studying. A little knowledge can be dangerous, but a lot of knowledge is a wonderful thing. Brent |
Date: 3/1/2001 6:01:00 AM
From Authorid: 24673
I went to a hypnotherepist to be regressed, not for abduction reasons and discovered I probably was abducted. The hpynotherepist didn't ask me abduction questions, in fact, she thought I was being mollested! We never expected this session to be of an alien nature and it was so upsetting, she suggested I see a counselor before I was regressed again, which is a story I wrote about. It's just so unbelieveable to me to think we are in this universe alone. None of us know the whole truth. Thanks, bye. Garbage  |
Date: 3/1/2001 1:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 12637
Considering our minds need an average 8 hours of sleep or a good 1 or so of REM a night just to help process all the information we gathered during they day, I'd say hypnosis and regression techniques would be fairly accurate in tapping into that subconcious understanding that gets it's own time 8 hours a night. If humans didn't sleep, I'd say yeah, hypnosis is stupid, but since we'll die without sleep, I'd say that dreamworld is pretty important and there is alot more there than you think. Ryphis  |
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Date: 3/1/2001 1:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 12637
Think about how much you have forgotten in just your lifetime. Yet all of that info was recorded and stored in your mind. It's in there, you just don't have faith that it is. Ryphis |
Date: 3/1/2001 3:57:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 26938
The thing I just cannot see is how all you can believe that your memory's are that accurate. Even in the face of evidence about the poor quality of memory, you will argue the point, believing that a trick of some sort has been played by the malevolent alien captors. We have been told countless times by various "authorities" that our memory is the storehouse of everything we have seen, felt, experienced or done. But our mind is not a giant tap recorder as many think. With much contest, we learn that the real purpose of memory is not to store data but to allow us to function on a day-to-day basis. Memory is not meant to be an accurate record of our part or even a storehouse of our experience but rather an inner representation of who we are and how we feel. More important, it does not have to be very accurate to Carry out these everyday functions. Most people do not realize just how bad their memory is. They just don't think about it, But take a moment and ask yourself a question, What did u do on your tenth b-day? What did you have for lunch three days ago? What were the names of your grade school teachers? Any of your teachers? IF YOUR NOT CURRENTLY IN SCHOOL, this does not apply. Now take a moment and think of something that happened a few years ago. If you keep a diary you can perform a simple, illustrative experiment. Take an event that you remember quite well and write down exactly how it all transpired. Search your memory for every detail that you can. In fact, ask friends and family for their memory of events if you want to carry the experiment to its ultimate conclusion. Once you have a complete written record, check those memories with he facts written into the diary. It will surprise you. You will discover that memory is patchy and sporadic. We remember very little about our past. The reality is that we forget the bulk of what we do every day. It is not repressed or wiped from our mind, its is merely never recorded, or never used again, because it serves no useful purpose.
A great example which deals more towards hypnotic regression in particular is an experiment done by Psychologist Ulric Neisser, who taught at Emory university in January 1986 when the space shuttle Challenger exploded. He realized that he had an opportunity to study flashbulb memory. The day after the disaster, he gave the student in his freshmen psychology class a questionnaire about the explosion. He then filed away the questionnaires for three years, until the students were seniors. At that point he gave them the same questions and added a single additional question. He wanted to know how reliable they believed their memory of the destruction of the Challenger to be. According to the results provided by Nessier, and his graduate assistant Nicole Harsh, a quarter of the students didn't have one memory that proved to accurate. In one case, a student reported that he had been at home with his parents when he heard the news, when in fact his earlier answer had been that he was at college at the time. More important however, was the reaction of the students to the proof that their memories of the events were inaccurate. None disputed the accuracy oof the orignal statements made in the days after the destruction of the Challenger. One student when confronted with the discrepancy between what she remembered three later and what she had written only hours after the event, did say "I still remember everything that happened the way I told you, I cant help it" She was defending the memories that were clearly and invention of her mind. LATER BIG PAPA |
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Date: 3/1/2001 9:03:00 PM
Big Papa. It is true that I cannot remember what happened on my tenth birthday. I probably could not remember if somebody reminded me. But, when a giant, mother-ship flying saucer stops right over my head in broad daylight, I remember every detail. And that was 33 years ago. You are missing what is most important. One might not remember what they wore 2 days ago but they will certainly remember minute details of their mother's death 10 years ago. You sound like you are blinded by denial. I have never been kidnapped by alien creatures, taken aboard their intergalactic space craft, forceably aroused to ejaculation, while having a prod stuck up my kazoo, and then returned to my house. But if it ever did happen, I am pretty dang sure that I would remember it. Do you think you would? Brent |
Date: 3/2/2001 12:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 12637
That was just too much to read.... I stand by what I said earlier. Unfortunately we're not talking about the reliability of human memory, we were talking about hypnotic transgression, which ultimately tries to get people to utilize different areas in their brain that they don't use in the awake state. Their is a huge difference between your brain when you sleep and when your awake. I think most of the time when abdcutions take place they are in a reality more closely related to your dream place than your usual wakened state. Therefore all complacency you express towards the inability to remember specific moments doesn't really apply to what we're talking about. Like Brent said, we're speaking of a surreal and possibly a dream world or 4th density encounter. Meaning it would probaly rank up there in a magical moment and not just a what I had for dinner on Oct. 10th, 1979.
Ryphis |
