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Pontius pilot's report , circ 31 AD, to Caesar concerning Jesus Christ(a real document)

  Author: 28717  Category:(Religious) Created:(3/1/2001 12:00:00 PM)
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excerpts taken from a papyrus scroll held in the Vatican's treasery and libarary: page 131: among the various rumors that came to my ears there was one in paticular that atracted my attention.A young man, it is said, had appeared in Galilee preaching with a noble unction a new law in the name of God that had sent him.t first Iwas apprehensive that his design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. .....One day in passing by the place of Siloe, where there was a great concourse of people, I observed in the midst of the group a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected, so great was the difference between him and those listening to him. His golden-colored hair and beard gave to his appearence a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about thirty years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serne countence......page 133....I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview...He came....When the Nazarene made his appearence..(he) was as calm as innocence itself...and by a signal sign he seemed to say .."I am here" though he spoke not a word....page 141..I have witnesses the furious anger of the multitude...page 142..A loud clamor was heard proceeding from Golgotha, which, ...seemed to anounce an agony such aaas was never heard by mortal ears. Dark clouds lowered over the ...temple..So dreadful were the signs that men saw both in the heavens and on earth that Dionysius ...is reported to have exclaimed"Either the author of nature is suffering or the universe is falling apart"...page 145...(the sentry) said that ...they saw a soft and beautiful light over the sepulchre.....behold the whole place was lighted up, and there seemed to be crowds of the dead in their graveclothes...shouting and filled with ectasy, while all around and above was the most beautiful music he had ever heard; and the whole air seemed to be full of voices praises of God Taken from "The Genesis Factor" by Yacov Rambsel( a messianic Jew) Doxiemom

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Date: 3/1/2001 12:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 28703    wow!!! where did u find this??? neat!!!
Date: 3/1/2001 12:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 11528    Doesnt anyone find it odd that this alledged document which no one ever heard of before should suddenly appear in a book and it is dated 31AD when we all know that Jesus died in 33AD. assuming of course that he even existed in the first place.  
Date: 3/1/2001 12:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 25390    Enki, notice at the top it says CIRC 31 AD...meaning that is an approximation....no date was on there. that's cool doxiemom!  
Date: 3/1/2001 1:06:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 28717    Enki- a book written by Rev. W. D. Mahan in 1887 ( The Archko Volume) had this in it. The book was written after he travelled through Constinople, Turkey, Rome, Vatican City, Italy. His goal was to find Roman documentation of Jesus.Excepts of this book were put into "The Genesis Factor: by Rambsel, a well respected author. Is that scroll absolutely real or a fake? Only God and the vatican knows, but the story blessed me and it "felt" real...Doxiemom
Date: 3/1/2001 1:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 19092    Thank you for sharing this story. There are many other written accounts of Jesus and His life and the events of that time other than the Bible. They all tell the same story, He lived, died, and rose again, this is the account of the Bible and other written testimony.  
Date: 3/1/2001 1:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 18737    Pontius Pilate was the Governor of Judea from 26 to 32 a.d. ... The Jews were rebellious and Pilate attempted to put down their rebellions *which led to the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70 a.d.* ... According to the writing of Josephus, Pilate: "incurred the enmity of the Jews by insulting their religious sensibilities, as when he hung worship images of the Emperor throughout Jerusalem and had coins bearing pagan religious symbols minted." SOURCE: Encyclopedia Britannica (Pontius Pilate) ... Very odd behavior for a man who *allegedly* recognized the "divinity" of Jesus. ... Further, it would seem to be very odd that a Roman Governor would "request" a meeting with a peasant... But, as long as it makes you feel good. ... Either the document is a forgery, or Pilate actually wrote it with the intent of "demonizing" the Jews *his enemies* ... May peace and harmony be forever yours. /s/ J.T.
Date: 3/1/2001 2:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    You can find this in, "The Lost Books of the Bible." (pg 269 ISBN 0-517-277956) They are called, "Pseudepigrapha," or a kind of forged document from the early church to fill in areas where believers and non-believers alike were asking too many questions. In other words, Spurious writings falsely attributed to Biblical
characters. Some of these writings are very entertaining, such as the "Infancy of Jesus," where, as a boy, Jesus maims and kills a teacher and some playmates...nice kid. Pilot=Pilate.

Date: 3/1/2001 2:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    the __Catholic Encyclopedia__ at:

has this to say:

While Christianity was struggling against the forces of Roman paganism, there was a natural tendency to dwell upon the part which a representative of the Roman Empire played in the supreme events of Our Lord's life, and to shape the testimony of Pontius Pilate, the procurator of Judea, even at the cost of exaggeration and amplification, into a weapon of apologetic defence, making that official bear witness to the miracles, Crucifixion, and Resurrection of Christ. Hence arose a considerable apocryphal Pilate literature, of which the Gospel of Gamaliel really forms a part, and like this latter
apocryphon, it is characterized by exaggerating Pilate's weak defence of Jesus into strong sympathy and practical belief in His divinity.

In other words,even the Catholic church says the document is a forgery.
Date: 3/1/2001 4:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 10798    Well, I can't attest to its being genuine or not, but I enjoyed it.  
Date: 3/1/2001 6:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    Yes it's an interesting STORY, but it's not true.  
Date: 3/2/2001 10:00:00 AM  From Authorid: 27603    I have read that before too KK. thanks for sharing. Also, you van tell it's not very acurate by the fact that Pilate keeps refering to God. Not "the god" of the Hebrews" It is a known fact that a Roman offical wouldn't use the term "God" alone. It would either be a Proper name of one of the Roman gods, or some kind of indication of whose god they are referring to.
Date: 3/3/2001 7:26:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 28717    thanks all for your imput, very interesting. I still don't know whether this is a true account, since i wasn't there. But it was worht sharing. Doxiemom
Date: 3/3/2001 8:53:00 AM    I have to agree with Karma on this one. There is evidence of mythologizing the events that is not found in other authenticated documents such as Pilny the Younger's letter to Hadrian, or even in the Gospels themselves where the writers were careful to avoid mythologizing and each claim to supernatural events were within eyesight of crowds of people who could refute their accuracy if they "got it wrong". I would be interested in knowing when the earliest known copy of this document was dated. It would be a big clue as to the authenticity of the document. Knowing this we can perhaps deduce whether this is an altered copy of a real original or a medival forgery. Still is an interesting read though! Good find author! Peace, Tom
Date: 3/3/2001 2:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 17516    Hey Tom! How's it going? I haven't seen you around in awhile and now you agree with me! What is the world coming to ~smile~....see you around.  

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